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so here is the stalemate....one side says IF the government reforms healthcare properly...it will actually be cheaper in the long run than what we have now....we would actually SAVE 1 trillion dollars... Wave all the numbers you want for your cause..I for one doubt that America will collapse in...

Kenny Rogers song.....Joe don't take your guns to town...*LOL* oh wait it was Ruby....:p Joe...we already have medicare...a useless cost prohibitive program....scrap it. If they feel so inclined fund state medicaid...each state has different needs...that way state rights won't be trampled...

.30 of every dollar now just for the administration of the present form of healthcare....thats uncalled for....you are already taxed for it Joe....

And that is why you world will come to an unhappy demise. Many, many Americans want some kind of health care like many other countries....BUT not the proposals that are presently on the table and being rushed thru.....

Kennedy must have read the article I posted.... Dreammaker... Glad to see that you as an American things aren't all that rosey that some paint in here and wave the flag we are the best....ain't happenin....we are NOT the best..we are slipping behind other countries that are developing faster...

If they change it to 50 gallons like Pilots policy...WE will..... Unless you are one of them who runs home after every couple loads...hahaha...

The mileage deduction is always better if you have a new van....because there are very little expenses related to mechanics in the first couple years normally.

Totally agree with ya Joe.... Warriors are made for killing and ours have to ask May I please...give me a break....I hope every situation they encounter is a forceful one where permission isn't asked...common sense in the battlefield prevails...Patton must be rolling in his grave in disgust...

"I think I will also be bringing fruit for a fruit salad." It wouldn't be fruit salad if you brought pasta now would it..?:rolleyes::D

Hey now!! You do your thing ...I do mine....:D Its My Right Barry said So....:rolleyes:

Why do conservatives feel the NEED to capitalize most of their words when responding to a lib? just an observation...:rolleyes:

They say every man should have a goal in life....:D;)

I suppose the insurance companies would know....a total of all people insured and subtract the population... If you were to subtract the 10-12 million illegals...btw where they'd come up with that number? Now we are are talking about roughly 10% of the population with no coverage....all this...

I told ya Joe..You are ready... a little plot of land in the remote west.....and disappear from all this nonsense...basically you have what 3 maybe 4 presidential elections left of good life?...:eek:

you wish me luck to be dead and buried?*LOL* Luck has nothing to do with it...*L*

He is striking whilst the iron is hot...he knows any hesitation and his plans are cooked... I don't expect this to pass....not as is...and once it starts to be chipped at it'll diminish down to rubbish...

they have bigger fish to fry then worry about me out in Gods country....I'll be dead and buried by then...

I don't think it will go thru as is....even his own party is waivering....

That is assuming the bill goes thru as is....we know there will be deal and counter deals...what the final proof will be no one knows..unfortuneatly too late to protest...the thing is the People have to get on the phone and demand from their Senator and remind of the mandate...

Senate to consider proposal Monday By Jeremy Fugleberg, Journal staff | Sunday, July 19, 2009 Sen. John Thune has proposed legislation that would allow a gun owner with a concealed weapon permit to carry that weapon into other states that offer such permits. “South Dakota is one of many...