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my Econolines were fleet vans driven by 18-25 yr olds mostly....you can imagine the abuse...

IF you was small like me...you could pull an immediate turn and get out...or sometimes enough room to squeeze between the 2 trucks....hehehehe

exactly the problems Ford is having...for those of us lucky enough to get to KC ...many modifications being done...pushing back the schedule... I was hoping for more North American content, seeing they are assembled here...have a warranty problem? Faulty water pump?...sorry made in Turkey and it...

there ya go...some trucks can help make up for that silly 30 minute break...from north to south they can make up about 20 minutes...:rolleyes:

evidently it is being brought to Detroit headquarters for more testing.....gee whiz

when I bought my first CV Dodge van the purpose was for bulk newspapers...I had no concern whatever about weight....I must have had 5,000 to 6,000 lbs at least with Saturdays paper and all the inserts...it was all local work...

The Transit is the same way except not re-badged....why they are having so many problems setting up a line....when all they have to do is clone their European line...

is that the Ram?.....wonder if hot off the new line or an import for testing?

I would have preferred barn doors...my 1st ram CV had them....the Ford Econoline back then had sliders and were constantly break and falling off track....I managed about 82 of them so I know of what I speak...for courier work.....even tho my slider has held up all these years without problems...

potty trained eh?....LOL

you was on the back roads for 8 hours and no towns or whatever for 8 hrs?....really...I call hogwash on that....sorry.... BTW backroads in Iowa?...

When the stars are aligned

I still think for all that you must have security clearances and all...$3.00 a mile should be minimum

Then you have to take time off to get certified for T-Fal inGreen

Crap equals all those certifications

How do you figure ?you guys get the big bucks you got to put up with DOD hazmat,to put up with customer's requests and all that.... You guys should be getting three dollars a mile minimal just for putting up with all the crap

You want to make the big bucks you get the big aggravation

I want to see proof , I want to see documentation ....

A big thank you Mootster!!

Naw already got one but feel free to jump in at any time as juju said