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  1. ATeam

    The Trump Card...

    It has never been OK to talk about harming someone and the "I was joking" defense has always been weak. Do you remember when hijacked planes were very much in the news? Laws were passed. Policies were changed. And it became unwise to even joke about hijacking a plane, especially if you were in...
  2. ATeam

    The Trump Card...

    It's 2/3 of those present, as long as there is a quorum (51, the minimum number required to be present to conduct business). The Vice President only votes in the event of a tie vote. So, with the soon-to-happen 50/50 split in the Senate (50 Republicans and 50 Democrats), a quorum can be...
  3. ATeam

    The Trump Card...

    That is a possible scenario, yes.
  4. ATeam

    The Trump Card...

    What would you have had "them" do instead? What would have been appropriate in your view?
  5. ATeam

    The Trump Card...

    It's true of any group of human beings. Whatever the stated purpose or beliefs of the organized group is, there is within the group a range of people who agree and/or comply to one degree or another. Also, people change or act out of character. A church may prohibit adultery and all agree. Then...
  6. ATeam

    The Trump Card...

    Are you sure about that? According to this chart, 2016 gas price was $2.14. 2020 gas price was $2.17. In between, there was movement. But if you're going to credit Trump with the decline, you must also credit him with the rise.
  7. ATeam

    The Trump Card...

    For some, yes; but for others no. 75 million people voted for Trump. Their reasons for doing so are widely varied. For some, it is cult-like. But for many others, that is not the case. Flying a Trump flag on your pickup does not mean that person is a Trump cult member. It would be unwise to...
  8. ATeam

    The Trump Card...

    I agree with Turtle on this. A legitimate question exists as to the applicability of an impeachment trial and conviction (if obtained) after a president has left office. The question will certainly be answered as developments unfold. I'm inclined to believe it is legitimate to convict after the...
  9. ATeam

    The Trump Card...

    No. It's not an easy subject. Before Trump became a candidate, these people were ordinary neighbors. Over time they bought into the Trump story and became consumed by it. Their friendships reoriented around pro-Trump/anti-Trump. Their time, their thoughts, their actions became Trump-infused...
  10. ATeam

    The Trump Card...

    Some are not. Those who flew Trump flags, spent weekends on Trump boat parades, and stood on street corners waving signs while dressed head to toe in MAGA gear are agitated and angry in their walk and talk. They stomp to the mail box when they walked more peacefully before. They wave nervously...
  11. ATeam

    The Trump Card...

    Regarding violence, there has been more than enough of it to go around. We saw violence at the Unite the Right event in Virginia. We saw violence after the George Floyd killing. We saw violence at the Capitol on Jan 6. This is called civil disorder. It is by its very nature disorderly, which...
  12. ATeam

    The Trump Card...

    Most of Trump's rallies happened before Election Day 2020. While Trump talked often about a rigged election before then, things changed when the votes were counted and Biden won. Many who believed the Trump story grew angry when the networks called it for Biden. They grew more angry when states...
  13. ATeam

    The Trump Card...

    Either way, it leaves Trump in a bind.
  14. ATeam

    The Trump Card...

    Another item of interest regarding the Senate side of the second Trump impeachment is Trump's legal team. It's nothing like the one he had before, if he has a team at all. An official White House counsel is no longer available to him after 1/20. Another part may be the report that Trump just...
  15. ATeam

    The Trump Card...

    That is a valid point. We're exploring new ground here. My guess is the trial will proceed and it will be challenged in court, either immediately upon its beginning or after its completion. The challenge may be made by Trump or others. We'll have to see how this plays out.
  16. ATeam

    The Trump Card...

    The difference may have something to do with the two principals involved. One is the Portland mayor Ted Wheeler. The other is the President of the U.S. Recently, Wheeler’s office issued a news release noting he had met with “leaders of local, state and federal law enforcement agencies” but that...
  17. ATeam

    The Trump Card...

    As I listened to this Trump speech on my way home from work tonight, I felt a sense of relief and I was inclined to praise Trump for what I thought was an effective message that will likely take some of the steam out of those who are stirring the pot for violent protests or attacks at state...
  18. ATeam

    The Trump Card...

    Evidence is presented at trial. The charge is in the impeachment article which can be read here: RESOLUTION Impeaching Donald John Trump, President of the United States, for high crimes and misdemeanors. Resolved, That Donald John Trump, President of the...
  19. ATeam

    The Trump Card...

    There is the political backlash (impeachment), business backlash (banks and other businesses cutting Trump off), social media backlash (Twitter, Facebook, others cutting Trump off), and now this. A big Trump donor figured out he has been conned by the election-fraud lie and is suing to get his...
  20. ATeam

    The Trump Card...

    That's a question that will be answered in the Senate trial, and likely in other trials if Trump is charged with crimes in connection with the insurrection.
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