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  1. ATeam

    The Trump Card...

    I do not know, and neither do you. No point in further discussing until additional details are learned.
  2. ATeam

    The Trump Card...

    You cannot legitimately argue or imply that one officer waving people on somehow legitimizes illegal entry into a restricted area when the area was in fact restricted and hundreds of other officers were using force to keep people out.
  3. ATeam

    The Trump Card...

    Yes but there has been no explanation yet, so the circumstances remain unknown. I have a theory but without the explanation, it’s not a theory I can defend. You seem less encumbered by logical rigor, so draw what conclusions you will. Just don’t expect others to blindly buy in.
  4. ATeam

    The Trump Card...

    And what do hundreds of officers, some called in as reinforcement, manning barricades and pushing people back lend credence to?
  5. ATeam

    The Trump Card...

    That depends on the circumstances, which in this case are unknown. You are talking about a single officer. What about the many others who were clearly doing everything they could to keep people out? And what about the fact that force or commands were used to eventually clear the building so...
  6. ATeam

    The Trump Card...

    It's impossible to know from the video why that officer waved to the crowd or what he meant by the wave. So your guess is as good as anyone's. It's not impossible to know that the capitol was a restricted area. That fact is crystal clear. The protesters (tourists? rioters?) in the Capitol were...
  7. ATeam

    The Trump Card...

    Not comparable. Not in the same city or state. Not in a government building. Not at a time and place where an election certification was underway.
  8. ATeam

    Death by DeSantis

    Using the chart from Mayo Clinic you cited, I see Florida has 90.0% of people over 65 fully vaccinated. The top state is VT at 99.9%. The bottom state is WV at 74.3%. All states but three (WV, AR, AL) topped 80.0%. Of the 23 states that topped 90.0%, 14 have Democratic governors. 9 have...
  9. ATeam

    Death by DeSantis

    I've not taken a deep dive into this topic so my opinions are not firmly held. I did come across an interesting item that merits consideration. That's the timing of the outbreaks. Some states were hit by the virus well before many others were. Early on, we knew far less about the virus itself...
  10. ATeam

    Death by DeSantis

    I'm not sure I understand your meaning.
  11. ATeam

    Death by DeSantis

    Maybe I am missing the point. If I understand your post correctly, you are saying Florida is a top-five state ranked by people over 65. And you are saying Florida is a top-five state ranked by the total number of covid deaths. Is that correct? Other than the top-five status the two stats you...
  12. ATeam

    Death by DeSantis

    I was thinking the same thing. With cheap and highly effective vaccines on the way, it could be easily assumed those would do the job and the far more expensive antibody treatments would not be needed. I think a lot of people were surprised by the huge number of people who resisted the vaccines...
  13. ATeam

    Death by DeSantis

    While it's easy to call Washington-level elected officials and/or their operatives stupid, or dismiss them as such, it is unwise to do so. Be they Democrat, Republican, Independent or other, if they are operating at the Washington level, they are highly intelligent and highly skilled. In the...
  14. ATeam

    How realistic is getting to planet fitness regularly as a straight truck team?

    Port Orange, FL, I-95 exit 256 https://goo.gl/maps/C1vWqSEEPd1VRny87
  15. ATeam

    The Trump Card...

    While I've been unimpressed with Seattle's and Portland's approach to law enforcement, prosecutions are taking place, mostly because the feds stepped in. Where crimes are committed, prosecutions are important, without regard to party or political views...
  16. ATeam

    Death by DeSantis

    No double standard at all. Did you hear Republicans blaming Trump for covid deaths? Those driven by partisanship are remarkably consistent in following the same standard ... blame the other side. Regarding charges and prosecutions for two fires in two different states, it's not true that no...
  17. ATeam

    The Trump Card...

    Muttly, regarding proportionality, a review of this document suggests that the charges and penalties are proportional to the crimes. Notice that several have been cooperating with prosecutors. One was sentenced to time served. One got no time but probation instead.
  18. ATeam

    The Trump Card...

    And all in the building and beyond certain points in the plaza were in restricted areas without authorization. It seems that those who committed crimes of violence have been so charged. Others have also been charged, but not with crimes of violence. This is not going well for the people who...
  19. ATeam

    The Trump Card...

    Digging a little deeper, I found this in one of the charging documents: "The U.S. Capitol is secured 24 hours a day by U.S. Capitol Police. Restrictions around the U.S. Capitol include permanent and temporary security barriers and posts manned by U.S. Capitol Police. Only authorized people with...
  20. ATeam

    The Trump Card...

    I stand corrected. Now looking at this source to see what has been charged, "parading, demonstrating or picketing in a Capitol building" has been charged. Like you, I find this to be a curious charge. Demonstrations in the Capitol are common. Why would people be charged for this on January 6...
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