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Seriously, are you saying that the only way to have knowledge of something is in the first hand ? In the reverse, you clearly do not have firsthand knowledge of everything this nation, or it's minions, have done. Everything in life is different from the inside out. I never claimed to know...

I am well aware of mistakes this Nation has made. I am well aware of wrong doing in the CIA. No different than any organization that man is involved in. That does not put the blame of all the ills and problems we face as a nation only on their doorstep. It does not mean that everyone in that...

Are you able to answer a simple question? Do you have any first hand experience? Seems like an easy question to answer, yes or no. But then, you can't spew much with a 3 or 2 letter answer.

Who wrote what OVM? By the way, there are at least 3 others in this forum from time to time that do have first hand experience. Tell me, why is it that you choose to only believe the so-called bad stuff you read? I know you have no first hand experience, so intell agents are always bad and guilty?

It is so nice that you have such a fine image of me and my friends. I am truly sorry that I wasted the better part of my adult life working for people like you. Frankly it was not worth the effort. Amazing, please tell what first hand knowlege YOU have, if any?

Yes they can be, I have one but I am not one!!! LOL!!! :p

Both of mine were done with sleeper and box on.

You got it Greg. The past is always the key to the future. On a side note. I was talking to my son that is stationed in Afghanistan today. While we were talking 2 fighter jets roared over his post, on their way to blast bad guys. It was a "sweet" sound. Give 'em HELL!!! My son says it is really...

Rolling SUV's is a common thing in our area. These S.E. Michigan and Toledo area guys do it fairly often. Lots of drikin and driven.

Not even close, I was referring to Hell, Michigan. Lots of good lakes around there. It is rare for Lake Erie to freeze over completely. I think it has only done so 3 or 4 times in my lifetime. It is a relatively warm lake and there is lots of current.

Funny OVM, by the way Hell has already froze over this year and I understand that the ice fishing has been quite good so far!!

I am glad you were not trying to compare those animals to real men, I can relax now. They were field agents. The thing is that most don't know what that means. The are the guys that pay the bribes to get intell, that get the favors needed, etc. It is not James Bond stuff, it is real. The...

Yes Greg, recruiting would be one of their main goals. "Fishing" for information would be another. They would have been like the guys who helped to figure out where Saddam Hussain was hiding.

Assuming that they were there doing what I think they were, and I would be willing to bet money that they were, they were not even armed. They would have spent most of there time in a building doing interviews etc. The rule under the Geneva convention apply to "combatants". Soldiers, marines...

You have no idea in the world what a "spy" is OVM, you have been watching too many movies. The main "mission" of our intelligence services now, as when I was in, is to avoid war and death. The best way to stay out of wars is to know what your enemy is doing. It is difficult work, and for some...

It is always a terrible day when brave men die for us. OVM, that was kinda not nice. They were not enemy combatants. They were there working a "HUMINT" mission. That is what is known as "human intelligence". The more difficult and dangerous kind of intelligence work there is. It is a shame the...

At home, most likely watch some football if there are any games on today :rolleyes: Back in service Monday, ready to roll!!!

The more the merrier!!! :D

We had the same problem with our 2006 M112 Freightliner. We had a front end alignment when we bought it. It was right up to factory specs. At the time it only had 145,000 miles on it. We the first set of steers only had 45,000 when they went bad. We had another alignment, done by one of those...

China and Russia have been funding these groups for years. That was just one of the reasons we had people stationed in Terhan, until Carter messed up that is. Many of our intelligence agencies have sections that do nothing except trace money. I never did that kind of work, too boring. Keep...