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OH, I understand what you are saying. I also understand that there are many out there who would have NO PROBLEM killed a child born with Downs or a person who is wheel chair bound etc. As stated, it is a VERY thin line. I can think of SEVERAL politicians that fit the bill of the last sentence...

I would suggest that you be VERY careful about the "not capable of sustaining life" part. NO human is able to sustain it's own like, until it is at least 5 or 6 years old. Then later in life, many older people cannot do the same without help. That is part of the "slippery slope" that is often...

But the government is telling us what WE have to do, AND, we are not even involved! Makes no sense. Other than it is pure Marxist redistribution of wealth, BY FORCE!

I won't debate the abortion issue on it's own. I have EVERY RIGHT to refuse to pay for them. I also have EVERY RIGHT to refuse to pay for OTHER PEOPLE'S RESPONSIBILITIES! Like maternity and new born care. With my wife being 60 THAT AIN'T GOING TO HAPPEN!! (thank GOD for that!) Like pediatric...

They FINALLY DID email us some "plans" with NO rates for them! How great it that? :mad:

LOL!! I THINK I understand!

Kinda lost me on one point. Welfare IS socialist/Marxist thinking. Would being opposed to that not be the OPPOSITE of socialist/Marxist thinking? What I am missing? :confused:

Good luck! With any luck you will get a person that speaks clearly, not "Detroit Mumble". Which if you have never heard it, it is a cross between standard " 'Merican" "marbles in the mouth" and "gargling".

I am sorry, I know you tried. I am just SO disgusted and fed up today, I really just can't see past it. I am going to have to deal with the crap for the rest of my life. It is just plain WRONG! Thank you for trying.

No. Those days are more than a month out. I am dealing with the crap today. It is UNBELIEVABLE! Half the numbers contradict each other. NOTHING we were quoted even comes close to covering what we had and we are REQUIRED to pay for a bunch of junk we JUST DON'T need and did NOT have to pay for...

It's not working. Can't hide from crap.

I gotta laugh about something today. Dealing with this insurance crap has got my blood pressure up into the nose bleed ranges! What a JOKE! You should try talking to these clowns! For some reason they needed MY age etc, to give us a quote and I am NOT BUYING any insurance! How stupid is that...

You would have to go back more than 10 years to get "younger" enough! :p

BCBS is now telling us, after much yelling, that our plan WAS cancelled due too the fact the it did NOT cover maternity, new born care or pediatric vision care. SO, it IS due ENTIRELY to PURE MARXIST REDISTRIBUTION OF WEALTH and NO other reason.

Thank you for a straight, honest, answer. I KNEW I could count on you to take my questions in the spirit that they were meant. :D I know we differ on the issue but we understand each others position.

On hold with Michigan BCBS. They are REFUSING to give us the reasons why our plan has been cancelled. They say it's because "the government told them too" and that is all they are required to say. I explained I had every right to know why and they said I did not. They have also now said that...

Want to know why Obama Care is costing more for so many? REQUIRED coverage for those who don't need it is one reason. WE are required to pay for maternity, new born care and pediatric vision. WE DON'T HAVE KIDS AND CAN'T HAVE ANY!! Just why in the heck should be pay for junk we have NO need for...

Which is exactly why I continue to research new ideas. I don't see where it is worth investing in a new truck right now. With all the new restrictions etc, it just not seem wise. I would have to see MASSIVE changes in many areas before I would invest a quarter of a million dollars. I see little...

Looked through several plans. So far, ALL are more expensive and cover much less than what we have now. WHAT A DEAL!! :mad: Kinda like driving more for less money! THAT makes a lot of sense too! I can't WAIT to hear someone try to tell me how this benefits us. It is a total lose lose. How do we...