The Trump Card...
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They’re too busy gaslighting.For those who have conveniently forgotten about Obama's actions against Libya and Somalia.
How Obama dropped more than 26K bombs on 7 countries without congressional approval in 2016
Obama did not obtain an act from Congress to conduct his military operations; however, his actions were not illegal.www.yahoo.com
It's called precedent and Obama knew he had it. Several presidents have used it dating all the way back to Harry Truman.
That's not what I said. I'm defending a president's right to take military action. While we're at it let's remember Bill Clinton's bombing of Serbia for 78 days in 1999. Even though he destroyed a considerable amount of civilian infrastructure nobody mentioned a thing about war crimes or humanitarian outrage. By the way neither one of those were considered to be major wars and neither is this one.
Also, intelligence was that Iran would hit our bases in the M.E. If they were attacked by another country. This was a defensive maneuver of an imminent attack. I expect our president to protect our troops from an attack. The constitution provides for him to do that as well.
Tricky the way this article is presented. . It makes it look like Senator Ron Johnson said the word “Vile” because his photo is on the cover of the article. When you go to click on the link, you see a longer quote by Johnson but nowhere does he use the word “Vile”. In reading the article it was actually Tucker Carlson that said it.'Vile.' Trump's threat to Iran's infrastructure enflames MAGA tensions
'Vile.' Trump's threat to Iran's infrastructure enflames MAGA tensions
“I do not want to see us start blowing up civilian infrastructure. I do not want to see that," said Wisconsin GOP Sen. Ron Johnson, a Trump ally.www.usatoday.com
Impeachment Watch
It's no surprise that US House Democrats are increasingly calling for Trump's impeachment and that articles of impeachment have been previously filed by them.
It's also a fact that the Republican majority is razor-thin. For a successful impeachment vote, only 2 or 3 Republicans need to cross over to vote with the Democrats.
A growing number of major Republican names are literally declaring Trump to be insane (see the names and quotes here). This shifting sentiment is an indicator. Trump has always been just a few votes away from impeachment. But these days, Republican crossovers may not be that hard to find. Trump's outrageous posts and actions of late have a number of House Republicans deeply concerned.
My eyes are on these Republicans for their pro-impeachment vote:
1. Any one of the 36 House Republicans who have announced they are not running for re-election to their House seats. Of those, 20 are running for other offices, 16 are retiring from public office entirely.
The 16 have no primary to fear or future election to be concerned about.
A few or all of the 20 may see the massive anti-war sentiment of the electorate and calculate that an impeachment vote is the right move.
2. Dan Newhouse (R-WA): One of the Republicans who voted to impeach in 2021. "The rhetoric we’ve seen over the last 48 hours—specifically the threats of 'annihilation'—is not the language of a rational leader. It is deeply unhinged. We are seeing a total absence of the mental guardrails required to manage a global conflict. I am listening closely to my colleagues about the 25th Amendment, because the current trajectory is unsustainable."
3. Victoria Spartz (R-IN): She has publicly questioned the President’s "mental focus" and "irrational" decision-making. Spartz has a history of independent voting and has previously signaled that she will not support a "leadership crisis" during a war.
4. Thomas Massie (R-KY): Massie has been the most vocal sitting member using "removal" language. By calling the current war footing "pure madness" and describing the President as "unhinged from the law," he has positioned himself as the most likely lead for a GOP impeachment push on constitutional grounds.
5. Ken Buck (R-CO): "We cannot have a Commander-in-Chief who believes the Constitution is an 'optional' document during a crisis. These threats to strike civilian infrastructure without a single vote from this body are illegal and dangerous. It’s a level of impulsive governance that we simply haven't seen before, and it puts our entire system of checks and balances at risk."
6. Chip Roy (R-TX): "I’m looking for a strategy, and all I’m seeing is a Twitter feed. You can't lead a war on vibes and expletives. This is erratic, it’s unstable, and it’s not what we promised the people. If the President cannot articulate a constitutional basis for 'Power Plant Day,' then we have a serious crisis of leadership on our hands."
It's no surprise that US House Democrats are increasingly calling for Trump's impeachment and that articles of impeachment have been previously filed by them.
It's also a fact that the Republican majority is razor-thin. For a successful impeachment vote, only 2 or 3 Republicans need to cross over to vote with the Democrats.
A growing number of major Republican names are literally declaring Trump to be insane (see the names and quotes here). This shifting sentiment is an indicator. Trump has always been just a few votes away from impeachment. But these days, Republican crossovers may not be that hard to find. Trump's outrageous posts and actions of late have a number of House Republicans deeply concerned.
My eyes are on these Republicans for their pro-impeachment vote:
1. Any one of the 36 House Republicans who have announced they are not running for re-election to their House seats. Of those, 20 are running for other offices, 16 are retiring from public office entirely.
The 16 have no primary to fear or future election to be concerned about.
A few or all of the 20 may see the massive anti-war sentiment of the electorate and calculate that an impeachment vote is the right move.
2. Dan Newhouse (R-WA): One of the Republicans who voted to impeach in 2021. "The rhetoric we’ve seen over the last 48 hours—specifically the threats of 'annihilation'—is not the language of a rational leader. It is deeply unhinged. We are seeing a total absence of the mental guardrails required to manage a global conflict. I am listening closely to my colleagues about the 25th Amendment, because the current trajectory is unsustainable."
3. Victoria Spartz (R-IN): She has publicly questioned the President’s "mental focus" and "irrational" decision-making. Spartz has a history of independent voting and has previously signaled that she will not support a "leadership crisis" during a war.
4. Thomas Massie (R-KY): Massie has been the most vocal sitting member using "removal" language. By calling the current war footing "pure madness" and describing the President as "unhinged from the law," he has positioned himself as the most likely lead for a GOP impeachment push on constitutional grounds.
5. Ken Buck (R-CO): "We cannot have a Commander-in-Chief who believes the Constitution is an 'optional' document during a crisis. These threats to strike civilian infrastructure without a single vote from this body are illegal and dangerous. It’s a level of impulsive governance that we simply haven't seen before, and it puts our entire system of checks and balances at risk."
6. Chip Roy (R-TX): "I’m looking for a strategy, and all I’m seeing is a Twitter feed. You can't lead a war on vibes and expletives. This is erratic, it’s unstable, and it’s not what we promised the people. If the President cannot articulate a constitutional basis for 'Power Plant Day,' then we have a serious crisis of leadership on our hands."
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I'm advocating for those "rights" to be trimmed back to what the Founding Fathers envisioned. Congress needs to retake the power it has ceded over the years in this regard. That said, Trump's unilateral actions that he himself classified as war are illegal and unconstitutional. They are impeachable offenses, and that may well be about to happen. See this.
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Trump Master Negotiator
The meme Ragman shared above is amusing, and a lot of Trump critics are expressing its sentiment and Trump mockery. Last night, details were so fragmented that it was hard to know what actually happened. This afternoon, the dust has settled and the facts are clear.
Wanting to know what actually happened, I asked AI for a more sober rundown than the meme provides. The following can be factually verified with ease.
March 26, 2026: U.S. 15-point plan is delivered to Tehran.
April 3, 2026: Iran officially rejects the 15-point plan.
April 6, 2026: Iran delivers 10-point counter-proposal via Pakistani mediators.
April 7, 2026: President Trump accepts the 10-point plan as a basis for a two-week ceasefire.
Iran's 10-point plan includes:
Not much, it seems, beyond no more dead and wounded soldiers; and the cost savings of not dropping bombs, and not firing multi-million-dollar missiles, and sustaining millions if not billions of dollars of losses suffered from Iranian missile strikes.
On the Ground, With Verifiable Action Right Now, What is Iran Getting in This Deal?
It makes me sick thinking of the US gold star families who's children and siblings were killed in action to help bring these lunatic-Trump results about.
The meme Ragman shared above is amusing, and a lot of Trump critics are expressing its sentiment and Trump mockery. Last night, details were so fragmented that it was hard to know what actually happened. This afternoon, the dust has settled and the facts are clear.
Wanting to know what actually happened, I asked AI for a more sober rundown than the meme provides. The following can be factually verified with ease.
March 26, 2026: U.S. 15-point plan is delivered to Tehran.
April 3, 2026: Iran officially rejects the 15-point plan.
April 6, 2026: Iran delivers 10-point counter-proposal via Pakistani mediators.
April 7, 2026: President Trump accepts the 10-point plan as a basis for a two-week ceasefire.
Iran's 10-point plan includes:
- Cessation of Hostilities: A complete and permanent end to the war involving the U.S., Israel, and Iran across all fronts.
- Strait of Hormuz Reopening: Immediate reopening for safe commercial passage under a secure transit protocol coordinated by Iranian forces.
- Transit Fees: A 2 million dollar fee per vessel transiting the Strait, with revenue split between Iran and Oman.
- Sanctions Relief: The full and permanent lifting of all primary and secondary U.S. economic sanctions.
- Release of Assets: The immediate unfreezing of all Iranian properties and funds held by the United States abroad.
- U.S. Military Withdrawal: The removal of U.S. combat forces from bases and deployment points across the region.
- Non-Aggression Guarantees: Binding guarantees that neither Iran nor its allies will face further attacks from the U.S. or its partners.
- Nuclear Program Terms: Iran commits to not seeking nuclear weapons while maintaining its right to uranium enrichment.
- International Legalization: All conditions to be approved via a binding UN Security Council resolution.
- Reparations: Full payment of compensation to Iran for reconstruction costs and damages incurred during the conflict.
- U.S.-Iran direct fire has paused, Israeli strikes against Hezbollah in Lebanon have reportedly continued.
- Commercial traffic is resuming under a northerly corridor managed by Iranian authorities.
- No commercial vessels have officially paid the $2 million toll yet, but the mechanism is being developed.
- The Treasury Department issued General License U, allowing for the limited sale and delivery of Iranian oil to stabilize global energy markets.
- Following the ceasefire, reports from Tehran suggest that preliminary steps to unfreeze roughly $6 billion in assets held in Qatar and South Korea have resumed
- U.S. forces have already completed withdrawals from Syria’s Al-Tanf base and the Ain al-Asad base in Iraq as part of a broader "strategic repositioning."
- The White House has committed "in principle" to non-aggression as part of the ceasefire.
- Tehran has publicly reasserted its "right to enrichment" following the President’s acceptance of the plan.
- Diplomats in New York are currently drafting a Security Council resolution to codify the Islamabad Accord.
- While the plan calls for full compensation for Iranian infrastructure damage, the U.S. has not yet authorized any payments.
Not much, it seems, beyond no more dead and wounded soldiers; and the cost savings of not dropping bombs, and not firing multi-million-dollar missiles, and sustaining millions if not billions of dollars of losses suffered from Iranian missile strikes.
On the Ground, With Verifiable Action Right Now, What is Iran Getting in This Deal?
- Iran now has official control and tolling rights over the Straight of Hormuz it did not have before Trump started the war.
- Iran gets to sell its oil on the open market again.
- Iran gets to recover $6 billion in frozen assets.
- Iran gets to see the US military flee.
- Iran gets to keep its uranium and continue to enrich it.
It makes me sick thinking of the US gold star families who's children and siblings were killed in action to help bring these lunatic-Trump results about.
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Is that Senator Mike Lee? Do you have a link?
Thanks Maga.... Pathetic!
That’s not going to happen.