The Trump Card...

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Almost instantly after Trump announced the 10-point document he had accepted, he started complaining about it's terms and even its authenticity. Iran released a version that rapidly spread worldwide. Trump never released a version and refuses to do to, choosing instead to cry about authenticity. He has his copy but refuses to release it. Typical Trump. There is even a witness, the person who delivered the document to both parties.

Professional diplomats ... that is, real government officials who are truly skilled in their work ... would never let this kind of stupidity prevail. They are careful to make sure documents in two languages agree exactly before they are announced. For Trump, stupid is the way he does business. In this case, it is authentically stupid and counterproductive.
 
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Haven’t checked yet.
I'm not going to drag this out. Notwithstanding the error I admitted and apologized for, the list is my good faith attempt to communicate the core truth that a growing number of prominent conservatives are declaring Trump to be literally insane.

That means, according to them (and to a host of Democrats who are more willing to be outspoken, and a number of doctors), Trump has lost his marbles. For that reason, he is not qualified to serve as president. That's the important issue, not my word-for-word copy and paste accuracy.

The list you see is the last edit you are going to see. I stand by the core message. Trump is literally insane. More specifically, his dementia has progressed to the point where he is no longer qualified to be the President of the United States. The responsible thing for the country and the world to do is remove him from office now.

In Florida, it is common to receive silver alerts. Those are like Amber alerts, only the are about older people whose minds are so far gone that they do not know where they are, and they have wandered off. Trump is not that far gone yet, but he is well on his way.
 
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I'm not going to drag this out. Notwithstanding the error I admitted and apologized for, the list is my good faith attempt to communicate the core truth that a growing number of prominent conservatives are declaring Trump to be literally insane.

That means, according to them (and to a host of Democrats who are more willing to be outspoken, and a number of doctors), Trump has lost his marbles. For that reason, he is not qualified to serve as president. That's the important issue, not my word-for-word copy and paste accuracy.

The list you see is the last edit you are going to see. I stand by the core message. Trump is literally insane. More specifically, his dementia has progressed to the point where he is no longer qualified to be the President of the United States. The responsible thing for the country and the world to do is remove him from office now.

In Florida, it is common to receive silver alerts. Those are like Amber alerts, only the are about older people whose minds are so far gone that they do not know where they are, and they have wandered off. Trump is not that far gone yet, but he is well on his way.
I’m questioning the post about specific people and their quotes that are non existent. At least two from the post. What is the link from this internet slop?
 

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I’m questioning the post about specific people and their quotes that are non existent. At least two from the post. What is the link from this internet slop?
Here's a summary piece with links and sources. This is a sample and it's real. Trump is genuinely insane and the right is beginning to say so out loud.

 
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Here's a summary piece with links and sources. This is a sample and it's real. Trump is genuinely insane and the right is beginning to say so out loud.

Candace Owen’s? Really? The gal has gone totally off her rocker and dabbles on a daily basis in unfounded conspiracy theories about Erica Kirk. She has become dingbat crazy and is a grifter. Her comments are meaningless.
 
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Megyn Kelly on Trump

I don’t know about you, but I am sick of this s***! I’m sick of it. Can’t he just behave like a normal human?”
He can’t be a dignified, strong leader without threatening a bunch of war crimes? Like, what is he, Genghis Khan?"
(source)

Not an overt insanity declaration, but a call for normalcy, suggesting an abnormal state.
 
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I didn’t have the Left trying to prop up Alex Jones and MTG’s comments about Trump as pearls of wisdom on my bingo card.IMG_3699.jpeg
 
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I didn’t have the Left trying to prop up Alex Jones and MTG’s comments about Trump as pearls of wisdom on my bingo card.View attachment 24732
You also did not have Trump's cognitive decline on your bingo card. But it's happening and it has progressed to the point where his removal from office is best. These are not "pearls of wisdom" and I never characterized them as such. They are dire warnings coming from people not inclined to otherwise be critical of Trump. Their shift to the insanity or removal narrative is significant for that reason.
 
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Trump's War and Now Trump's Inflation

"Consumer prices spiked in March as the Iran war sent energy costs soaring and took the Federal Reserve further from its inflation target, according to a Bureau of Labor Statistics report Friday." (source)

The war seems no closer to ending today than when Trump started it over a month ago. The Straight of Hormuz remains closed (with a few exceptions granted to certain ships by Iran who remains firmly in control of the Straight). Oil facilities continue to be destroyed. The US gas price spike is not reversing. And this has gone on long enough now to start showing up in the economic indicators.

That said, consumers do not need economic indicators to tell them what is happening. They see it every time they refuel and go to the grocery store. The November elections draw closer by the day, and Trump's deficient mental state is increasingly on display and in the news.
 
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You also did not have Trump's cognitive decline on your bingo card. But it's happening and it has progressed to the point where his removal from office is best. These are not "pearls of wisdom" and I never characterized them as such. They are dire warnings coming from people not inclined to otherwise be critical of Trump. Their shift to the insanity or removal narrative is significant for that reason.
You haven’t been paying attention then. Jones has been criticizing him since he got elected again. And since he jumped head first down that Epstein nothingburger rabbit hole.
 
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Conservative Columnist Bill Kristol on Trump

Yet another prominent conservative rises to declare Trump unhinged. The rise of these voices is not slowing down. It's increasing.

"The simple fact is that we have a president who is irresponsible, reckless, and indeed unhinged. ... The bolder and more straightforward measure that ought to be put on the table for debate now is impeachment." (Source)
 
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You haven’t been paying attention then. Jones has been criticizing him since he got elected again. And since he jumped head first down that Epstein nothingburger rabbit hole.
It's interesting how you like to focus on the messengers instead of the central issue; namely, Trump's mental state and ability to serve. Let me ask you straight up.

Do you believe Trump is mentally healthy, mentally deficient, or mentally so far gone that immediate removal from office is warranted? If not of these fits, what exactly do you believe about Trump's mental condition?
 
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Trump's War and Now Trump's Inflation

"Consumer prices spiked in March as the Iran war sent energy costs soaring and took the Federal Reserve further from its inflation target, according to a Bureau of Labor Statistics report Friday." (source)

The war seems no closer to ending today than when Trump started it over a month ago. The Straight of Hormuz remains closed (with a few exceptions granted to certain ships by Iran who remains firmly in control of the Straight). Oil facilities continue to be destroyed. The US gas price spike is not reversing. And this has gone on long enough now to start showing up in the economic indicators.

That said, consumers do not need economic indicators to tell them what is happening. They see it every time they refuel and go to the grocery store. The November elections draw closer by the day, and Trump's deficient mental state is increasingly on display and in the news.
Consumer Confidence is another major economic indicator that the Federal Reserve, economists, Wall Street, and investors monitor. Trump's war brought that indicator to an historic collapse. America has been through a lot over the decades. It takes a special kind of nut-case president to bring sentiment to an ALL-TIME low (the lowest level in the survey's 70-year history).

"Consumer confidence plunged to a record low in April as fears mounted over rising energy prices and the broader impact of the Iran war, according to a University of Michigan survey Friday." (Source)

"Demographic groups across age, income, and political party all posted setbacks in sentiment, as did every component of the index, reflecting the widespread nature of this month’s fall." (Source)

If Trump keeps up his "good work," the Democrats won't have to spend a campaign dime to win their mid-term races for public office.
 
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People are getting their tax refunds and their additional money. This will be a spring and summer full of prosperity
The Trump Tax Refund in the Real World

Yes, it's true as muttly says, "People are getting their tax refunds and their additional money." And now that they are, we can finally know what that truly means. We no longer have to speculate or project. The data is in hand.

"The average tax refund is 11.1% higher so far this season, compared with about the same period in 2025, according to the latest IRS filing data.
As of April 3, the average refund amount for individual filers was $3,462, up from $3,116 about one year ago, the IRS reported on Friday. The IRS data reflects about 99.8 million individual returns received, out of about 164 million expected through the April 15 deadline."
(Source)

Another key data point is the number of Americans who receive a refund. The short story is 70% to 75% of American taxpayers will receive a refund this year, that's up about 10% from prior years. (Source)

What does this mean on the ground in real life? It means 25% to 30% of American taxpayers will receive no refund at all. Of the 70% to 75% who do, they are receiving an average refund increase of $346.00. That 10% boost in the number of Americans receiving refunds, and the $346 addition to the refund amount is the difference Trump's Big Beautiful Bill made.

People have been receiving tax refunds for years and they do with them what they do. That story does not change year by year. Will the $10% and $346 be enough to provide a "spring and summer full of prosperity, as muttly projects?

muttly may think so, but consumers do not. "Consumer confidence plunged to a record low in April as fears mounted over rising energy prices and the broader impact of the Iran war, according to a University of Michigan survey Friday." (Source)

If you ask your favorite AI app, "What do Americans traditionally do with their tax refunds?" You will be hard pressed to find any evidence that Trump's vaunted tax refund is going to make much of a difference for people or the country. These days, a lot of that money will be spent at the gas station to pay for the Trump fuel price spike.
 
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It's interesting how you like to focus on the messengers instead of the central issue; namely, Trump's mental state and ability to serve. Let me ask you straight up.

Do you believe Trump is mentally healthy, mentally deficient, or mentally so far gone that immediate removal from office is warranted? If not of these fits, what exactly do you believe about Trump's mental condition?
You’re the one that listed the messengers.( lol) I’m old enough to remember when the Left said very awful things about EVERYONE on that list you provided. Was the Left wrong about what they said about them? Now, the Left is saying that Jones and Candace Owens should be listened to. Which is it?
 

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The Trump Tax Refund in the Real World

Yes, it's true as muttly says, "People are getting their tax refunds and their additional money." And now that they are, we can finally know what that truly means. We no longer have to speculate or project. The data is in hand.

"The average tax refund is 11.1% higher so far this season, compared with about the same period in 2025, according to the latest IRS filing data.
As of April 3, the average refund amount for individual filers was $3,462, up from $3,116 about one year ago, the IRS reported on Friday. The IRS data reflects about 99.8 million individual returns received, out of about 164 million expected through the April 15 deadline."
(Source)

Another key data point is the number of Americans who receive a refund. The short story is 70% to 75% of American taxpayers will receive a refund this year, that's up about 10% from prior years. (Source)

What does this mean on the ground in real life? It means 25% to 30% of American taxpayers will receive no refund at all. Of the 70% to 75% who do, they are receiving an average refund increase of $346.00. That 10% boost in the number of Americans receiving refunds, and the $346 addition to the refund amount is the difference Trump's Big Beautiful Bill made.

People have been receiving tax refunds for years and they do with them what they do. That story does not change year by year. Will the $10% and $346 be enough to provide a "spring and summer full of prosperity, as muttly projects?

muttly may think so, but consumers do not. "Consumer confidence plunged to a record low in April as fears mounted over rising energy prices and the broader impact of the Iran war, according to a University of Michigan survey Friday." (Source)

If you ask your favorite AI app, "What do Americans traditionally do with their tax refunds?" You will be hard pressed to find any evidence that Trump's vaunted tax refund is going to make much of a difference for people or the country. These days, a lot of that money will be spent at the gas station to pay for the Trump fuel price spike.
An extra 20 dollars a month for an about 3 months is worth making sure Iran doesn’t have a nuclear weapon or sneak attack our military at their bases in the ME. It’s going to be a great spring and summer for the U.S.
Iran RG, not so much.
 
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