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  1. GuyUpNorth

    Advice for a 22 year old starting with van?

    Outstanding post. Hard to imagine how the greatest generation dropped the ball when it came to passing on their ideals to the next generation. It is as if the boomers just consumed everything they could and left nothing for future generations.
  2. GuyUpNorth

    Advice for a 22 year old starting with van?

    I got it and it was funny. It's just a bit of a sore spot is all having kids coming of age and knowing they are going to have serious struggles just trying to keep up with the previous generations.
  3. GuyUpNorth

    Advice for a 22 year old starting with van?

    Yep. The good paying factory jobs are few and far between and the people who would normally fill those jobs are doing whatever they can to scratch out a living.
  4. GuyUpNorth

    Advice for a 22 year old starting with van?

    Great job if you can find a way to get your foot in the door. Even that job pays a lower hourly wage than an equivalent job at GM 25 years ago. Back then they made around $18 or $19 an hour and health insurance was free. Today, they start at around $16 an hour and insurance is definately not...
  5. GuyUpNorth

    Advice for a 22 year old starting with van?

    Exactly. I am a Michigan man and a large percentage of my family graduated from highschool and walked right into great jobs at GM working in the factory during the 60's and 70's. Many worked there for 40 years and never experienced a single layoff. Today, factory jobs usually require long...
  6. GuyUpNorth

    Advice for a 22 year old starting with van?

    I have done all kinds of work myself as well. Welder, machine operator, satellite tv installer, truck driver etc. Trucking is a very tough lifestyle to adapt to but at least you can always find work if you keep your license clean.
  7. GuyUpNorth

    Advice for a 22 year old starting with van?

    I understand your point about paying your dues. Not everyone who has paid their dues has done so in the transportation industry though. Try spending years working anywhere else. Plant closures, corporate downsizing, automation have hurt many people, forcing them to do all manner of things to...
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