Gee Beemer, I am 57, I must be dead by now!!! I just joke about the nuns. Most of them were really great people. I only got "the ruler" when I needed it, which was often!!! LOL I was a real heller back then!! One of the best "mouse releasers" in the school. Those were good times and we learned. Those ties make it hard not too. A tie, for some reason, seem to calm a boy down at that age. Maybe it cuts down on oxygen flow to the brain? My Dad used to hunt his way to school most every day. He lived in western PA. They would put any game the took in the spring house to keep it cool, then hunt thier way home in the evening. They had normal "boy fights" in those days. No one EVER thought about picking up thier gun or hunting knife. They just "duked" it out and were friends again two minutes later. We have gone backwards in this country. I think we are de-evolving. We are going back to a tribal way of life. We just have different names for the tribes,Crips, Bloods etc. We accept crime as normal, even blame innocent people for the crimes. Like us law abiding gun owners. Some how because I own a gun city people are killing each other. Go figure. I can no longer leave my house un-locked, we could when I was young. To great a chance of a "crack head" breaking in and stealing me blind, happened once several years ago. Shame I was not at home.Would have been no need for a trial. We went to the sentencing of the little twit. I was only 10 feet away from him and the judge would not let me at him. My wife said that was the first time she EVER saw my unable to speak. I was SOOOO mad!!! His lawyer was trying to get him probation. He was 17, on crack, girlfriend knocked up. I would have taken the kid and put it up for adoption, and then hung him and his girlfriend. Would have take two slimers out of the gene pool. Layoutshooter