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Billy The Impaler

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...to haul more pallets (not weight) in a small vehicle. This is a shot from a review of of class A van-life like RV. I don't know if the weight could be kept around 6500 curb weight. But imagine ordering one that's essentially gutted. Everything behind the driver compartment is gutted. You put in a floor and e-track, and everything behind the corner of where that counter/cabinet is now would be an area for 3 pallets deep, 2 wide. Then you still have a buttload of space up where he's standing to have a Murphy bed or similar. Add house batteries, a generator for roof top AC, a light chest type refrigerator... I know, you'd have to have the rear doors custom made.

Assuming the empty weight is under 6500, why not? Or has anyone looked into modifying an airport shuttle that's under 6500 or so, something wide enough for 2 skids?
 

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Ragman

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...to haul more pallets (not weight) in a small vehicle. This is a shot from a review of of class A van-life like RV. I don't know if the weight could be kept around 6500 curb weight. But imagine ordering one that's essentially gutted. Everything behind the driver compartment is gutted. You put in a floor and e-track, and everything behind the corner of where that counter/cabinet is now would be an area for 3 pallets deep, 2 wide. Then you still have a buttload of space up where he's standing to have a Murphy bed or similar. Add house batteries, a generator for roof top AC, a light chest type refrigerator... I know, you'd have to have the rear doors custom made.

Assuming the empty weight is under 6500, why not? Or has anyone looked into modifying an airport shuttle that's under 6500 or so, something wide enough for 2 skids?
Remember, everything you add to your gutted van weighs something. This weight must be accounted for.

I'm not and never was a van driver, but it sounds like you're trying to reinvent the wheel.
 
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LDB

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It's Aerocell or maybe Unicell, company up in the northeast, already making what you are talking about. Considered one myself for a while.
 

brokcanadian

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...to haul more pallets (not weight) in a small vehicle. This is a shot from a review of of class A van-life like RV. I don't know if the weight could be kept around 6500 curb weight. But imagine ordering one that's essentially gutted. Everything behind the driver compartment is gutted. You put in a floor and e-track, and everything behind the corner of where that counter/cabinet is now would be an area for 3 pallets deep, 2 wide. Then you still have a buttload of space up where he's standing to have a Murphy bed or similar. Add house batteries, a generator for roof top AC, a light chest type refrigerator... I know, you'd have to have the rear doors custom made.

Assuming the empty weight is under 6500, why not? Or has anyone looked into modifying an airport shuttle that's under 6500 or so, something wide enough for 2 skids?
Huh?

Hauling more weight under 10,000 has been solved; a Promaster is about 4200 lb curb and a 3500 can take 3 skids

Why I said "huh" I'm trying to understand why you would want to haul 6 empty pallets

What is the question, how to haul 6 skids while the truck stays unregulated?

Even if they were small skids at only 1000 lbs that's 6000 lbs and a truck that can carry 6000 lbs daily with no complaints, itself weighs more than 6500 empty. It's physics, a frame strong enough to carry weighs a lot

I fit 5-6 skids regularly in a 2005 extended Sprinter last year.

You do that by taking each individual item off the skids and piling it up in the Sprinter, takes 1-2 hours and a lot of sweat. It made sense because I was delivering 1-5 of those individual boxes to each location out of the 110 it held - I was not delivering skids

The best vehicle for what you describe is called a 5 ton. They've been around about 100 years. Yes you probably need a CDL but at minimum you run HOS
 

Billy The Impaler

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Hauling more weight under 10,000 has been solved; a Promaster is about 4200 lb curb and a 3500 can take 3 skids

it can take 3 skids if you take your bed apart. I'm trying to find a way to haul more skids while having a permanent bed. That means adding width, 2 across, at least 2 deep plus room for a bed.
What is the question, how to haul 6 skids while the truck stays unregulated?

Even if they were small skids at only 1000 lbs that's 6000 lbs and a truck that can carry 6000 lbs daily with no complaints, itself weighs more than 6500 empty. It's physics, a frame strong enough to carry weighs a lot
Yes, hence the dilemma. I'm trying to come up with a light weight box for a cut-away that's at least 2 skids wide and 2 deep, plus room for the bed. I saw one the other day and took pictures. He said the weight works but he messed up and ordered it too narrow. He's 80 wide instead of 96. I'd have asked him more but his English was only so-so.

 

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brokcanadian

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it can take 3 skids if you take your bed apart. I'm trying to find a way to haul more skids while having a permanent bed. That means adding width, 2 across, at least 2 deep plus room for a bed.



Yes, hence the dilemma. I'm trying to come up with a light weight box for a cut-away that's at least 2 skids wide and 2 deep, plus room for the bed. I saw one the other day and took pictures. He said the weight works but he messed up and ordered it too narrow. He's 80 wide instead of 96. I'd have asked him more but his English was only so-so.
I haven't personally seen one under 10,000 lb manufacturer plate WITH dual wheels (but I get you might be just trying to show the box)

Try and rent something.

Last week I got 10.3 mpg in my E250 with the short body.

You don't want to be stuck with a combo that is too expensive to make money with for the sole reason of avoiding 11 hours driving time
 

brokcanadian

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Ok, update

I saw one of the Promaster cab chassis with Volens sleeper units...

WITH A HARDSHELL BOX.

So it exists.

Previous comment applies, I don't think it was traveling even 50 mph; he was probably trying to not spend everything he just made getting back home

:)
 

mal2478

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Late to the party. There's a company that makes over the cab sleeper pods. Based out of NC. Called Dream Master or Dreambox.
 

OntarioVanMan

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...to haul more pallets (not weight) in a small vehicle. This is a shot from a review of of class A van-life like RV. I don't know if the weight could be kept around 6500 curb weight. But imagine ordering one that's essentially gutted. Everything behind the driver compartment is gutted. You put in a floor and e-track, and everything behind the corner of where that counter/cabinet is now would be an area for 3 pallets deep, 2 wide. Then you still have a buttload of space up where he's standing to have a Murphy bed or similar. Add house batteries, a generator for roof top AC, a light chest type refrigerator... I know, you'd have to have the rear doors custom made.

Assuming the empty weight is under 6500, why not? Or has anyone looked into modifying an airport shuttle that's under 6500 or so, something wide enough for 2 skids?
just an observation from an ole fart if your skids are of the 40x48 style which is very common 40x3 is 120+ 10 feet about 4 feet left for side to side bunk... thats my Canadian math comment :)
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
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Remember, everything you add to your gutted van weighs something. This weight must be accounted for.

I'm not and never was a van driver, but it sounds like you're trying to reinvent the wheel.
correct bigger is not necessarily better... sometimes smaller, faster wins the race we are a CV and one must know profitable limitations
 

skyraider

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US Navy
I had a one ton van, I really needed a Sprinter, volume ,volume, volume is a great asset, cargo vans are ancient history, your gonna need more room and larger door openings for the forklift driver to load you...listen to Ragman and Ontarioman, they had a lot more experience than did, but volume and cubit feet is an asset.....................all u need to sleep on is a folding hospital bed arrangement,,,they work just fine...and roof top airconditioning...imho
 
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OntarioVanMan

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size can directly point to weight... its fine to hold 3 pallets double stacked to make 6.... but the weight then comes into play... ya have to do the math... i had a fold up Pragma cot
 
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