President O'Biden

Pilgrim

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Iran threatened to strike Israel in retaliation for their Syrian attack against Oct 7 leaders. Biden gives his usual toothless warning "Don't". Iran does it anyway, launching over 200 drones and missiles against Israel. US military gets directly involved in shooting down these missiles, along with Israel and Jordan. This weak and feckless POTUS is now squarely between our ally Israel and the Iranian regime he has been funding by reinstating the Obama deal allowing them nuclear weapons. Unless somebody in this administration gets their act together, Biden will get us into a shooting war in the Middle East. Never underestimate his ability to **** things up.
 
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Iran threatened to strike Israel in retaliation for their Syrian attack against Oct 7 leaders. Biden gives his usual toothless warning "Don't". Iran does it anyway, launching over 200 drones and missiles against Israel. US military gets directly involved in shooting down these missiles, along with Israel and Jordan. This weak and feckless POTUS is now squarely between our ally Israel and the Iranian regime he has been funding by reinstating the Obama deal allowing them nuclear weapons. Unless somebody in this administration gets their act together, Biden will get us into a shooting war in the Middle East. Never underestimate his ability to **** things up.
Way to go!
Take a very serious situation and play politics with it.

Pathetic..
 
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Way to go!
Take a very serious situation and play politics with it.

Pathetic..
Well, duh! Of course there's politics involved. As previously stated, Biden's foreign policy changes have allowed billions of dollars to flow into Iran who happens to be Israel's #1 enemy. They in turn fund terrorists like Hamas and Hezbollah.
An already bad situation in the Middle East has been made worse by Biden.
 

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Well, duh! Of course there's politics involved. As previously stated, Biden's foreign policy changes have allowed billions of dollars to flow into Iran who happens to be Israel's #1 enemy. They in turn fund terrorists like Hamas and Hezbollah.
An already bad situation in the Middle East has been made worse by Biden.
Now is not the time for finger pointing and blame. How about we figure out where to go from here and lay blame for the cause later.
Smh
 
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Way to go!
Take a very serious situation and play politics with it.

Pathetic..
Way to go!!!
Take a very hypocritical position, as leftists always do.
It's just horrible to "play politics" with this situation but perfectly fine for your ilk to do so when there is a shooting.
Hypocrisy at its finest.
 
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Way to go!!!
Take a very hypocritical position, as leftists always do.
It's just horrible to "play politics" with this situation but perfectly fine for your ilk to do so when there is a shooting.
Hypocrisy at its finest.
I'm not going to debate such an idiotic comment.
 
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Pilgrim

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Now is not the time for finger pointing and blame. How about we figure out where to go from here and lay blame for the cause later.
Smh
That process is completely backwards. The current mess in Israel was caused by Hamas - an Iranian proxy - on Oct 7. Iran was stagnant until Biden reinstated the Obama Iran Deal, making them filthy rich with oil money. The blame rests with them and their sponsorship of terrorism. Biden is their primary enabler.

The solution to the problem is the complete destruction of Hamas and cutting back Iran's oil revenues by any means necessary. The US also might want to have a word with Qatar, who also funds Hamas and shelters their leaders.
 
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That process is completely backwards. The current mess in Israel was caused by Hamas - an Iranian proxy - on Oct 7. Iran was stagnant until Biden reinstated the Obama Iran Deal, making them filthy rich with oil money. The blame rests with them and their sponsorship of terrorism. Biden is their primary enabler.

The solution to the problem is the complete destruction of Hamas and cutting back Iran's oil revenues by any means necessary. The US also might want to have a word with Qatar, who also funds Hamas and shelters their leaders.
I have a better idea when it comes to the fact that they sell oil to fund their terror. We stop using oil, when we get the point when we are using very little oil, and we produce way more than we need here, then how will they survive?

By the way, your solution is called genocide and Israel is trying their best to accomplish that with their war.
 

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We were doing a better job of that until a certain ilk voted against energy independence. And now here we are.
We are energy independent, we produce more than we consume, the only reason our gas prices keep going up the way they do is because of the people who play the markets, they win, we lose.
 
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We are energy independent, we produce more than we consume, the only reason our gas prices keep going up the way they do is because of the people who play the markets, they win, we lose.
Funny, gas prices were relatively low for most of the Trump presidency. And gas prices have been high to extremely high for most of the Biden presidency.
But, just coincidence, right? Not
 

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Funny, gas prices were relatively low for most of the Trump presidency. And gas prices have been high to extremely high for most of the Biden presidency.
But, just coincidence, right? Not
Yes it was because OPEC and the Russians were pumping oil at a loss to try to put American oil companies out of business. Thanks to Covid, it worked. If you don’t believe me look it up, they were not even trying to hide it.

Still want to say it was because of Trump?
 
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muttly

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Yes it was because OPEC and the Russians were pumping oil at a loss to try to put American oil companies out of business. Thanks to Covid, it worked. If you don’t believe me look it up, they were not even trying to hide it.

Still want to say it was because of Trump?
That was a temporary situation. Gas prices were low before and after that. Under 3 dollars for his presidency.
 
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Yes it was because OPEC and the Russians were pumping oil at a loss to try to put American oil companies out of business. Thanks to Covid, it worked. If you don’t believe me look it up, they were not even trying to hide it.

Still want to say it was because of Trump?
Biden claimed dropping gas prices ( which were temporary) was because of his Build Back Better working. Now gas prices are sky high again. What? BBB not working now?He takes credit if there is a dip in prices but blames everyone else when it’s high. Prices so high he can’t fill the Strategic Oil Reserves. And no, depleting our reserves for a few cents drop at the pump isn’t a sound energy policy.
 

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Biden claimed dropping gas prices ( which were temporary) was because of his Build Back Better working. Now gas prices are sky high again. What? BBB not working now?He takes credit if there is a dip in prices but blames everyone else when it’s high. Prices so high he can’t fill the Strategic Oil Reserves. And no, depleting our reserves for a few cents drop at the pump isn’t a sound energy policy.
As I have said before, the greedy oil company executives know that they can load up gasoline that was refined here onto ships and send it overseas where they can get more money for it than they can here. Which lowers our inventory and raises our prices, its a win/win situation for them, the problem is we lose, and they point the blame on Biden, who has nothing to do with it.

If you are a conservative, then you should understand how the market works and stop complaining about why the prices are too high, or at least blame the correct person for them.
 
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Pilgrim

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I have a better idea when it comes to the fact that they sell oil to fund their terror. We stop using oil, when we get the point when we are using very little oil, and we produce way more than we need here, then how will they survive?
Great idea - we stop using oil and strangle our economy while Iran keeps on pumping and getting rich. 90% of their exports go to China.
By the way, your solution is called genocide and Israel is trying their best to accomplish that with their war.
Nonsense. It's called defeating the enemy who attacked Israel on Oct 7. If that involves killing some Palestinians who supported the Hamas terrorists, so be it. They overwhelmingly supported the Oct 7 attacks, so if Hamas is hiding among civilians, the carnage is on them. BTW, the Palestinians support the complete destruction of the state of Israel and the Jews. That's genocide - no different than Nazi Germany.
 

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Great idea - we stop using oil and strangle our economy while Iran keeps on pumping and getting rich. 90% of their exports go to China.

Nonsense. It's called defeating the enemy who attacked Israel on Oct 7. If that involves killing some Palestinians who supported the Hamas terrorists, so be it. They overwhelmingly supported the Oct 7 attacks, so if Hamas is hiding among civilians, the carnage is on them. BTW, the Palestinians support the complete destruction of the state of Israel and the Jews. That's genocide - no different than Nazi Germany.
You do realize that China is way ahead of us in the EV game right? They are actually producing affordable cars, plus they have way better public transportation than we do. I would like to see Iran and the rest of OPEC for that matter go broke because we dont need their oil. Hope they figure out how to use that money they are making now to figure out how to eat once the easy money stops flowing.

There is no hope for peace in the middle east, when you have the Jews who believe they are Gods "chosen" people and then the Muslims who believe "all infidels must die" constant war is what you end up with.
 
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