Political Correctness in Mexifornia

Pilgrim

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Perish the thought of wearing the US colors on cinco de mayo.
California Students Sent Home for Wearing U.S. Flags on Cinco de Mayo


FOXNews.com

Administrators at a California high school sent five students home on Wednesday after they refused to remove their American flag T-shirts and bandannas -- garments the school officials deemed "incendiary" on Cinco de Mayo.


Administrators at a California high school sent five students home on Wednesday after they refused to remove their American flag T-shirts and bandannas -- garments the school officials deemed "incendiary" on Cinco de Mayo.
The five teens were sitting at a table outside Live Oak High School in Morgan Hill, Calif., on Wednesday morning when Assistant Principal Miguel Rodriguez asked two of them to remove their American flag bandannas, the Morgan Hill Times reported. The boys told the [COLOR=blue! important][COLOR=blue! important]newspaper[/COLOR][/COLOR] they complied, but were asked to accompany Rodriguez to the principal's office.
The five students -- Daniel Galli, Austin Carvalho, Matt Dariano, Dominic Maciel and Clayton Howard -- were then told they must turn their T-shirts inside-out or be sent home, though it would not be considered a suspension. Rodriguez told the students he did not want any fights to break out between Mexican-American students celebrating their heritage and those wearing American flags.
"They said we were starting a fight," Dariano told the newspaper. "We were fuel to the fire."
The boys told Rodriguez and Principal Nick Boden that turning their shirts inside-out was disrespectful, so their [COLOR=blue! important][COLOR=blue! important]parents[/COLOR][/COLOR] decided to take them home, the newspaper reports.


"I just couldn't believe it," Julie :censoredsign:erstrom, Maciel's mother, told the newspaper. "I'm an open-minded parent, but it's got to be on both sides. It can't be five kids singled out."
Galli told NBC Bay Area, "They said we could wear it on any other day, but today is sensitive to Mexican-Americans because it's supposed to be their holiday so we were not allowed to wear it."
In a statement released on Wednesday, the Morgan Hill Unified School District said it did not agree with the school's actions.
"In an attempt to foster a spirit of cultural awareness and maintain a safe and supportive school [COLOR=blue! important][COLOR=blue! important]environment[/COLOR][/COLOR], the Live Oak High School administration took certain actions earlier today," the statement read. "The district does not concur with the Live Oak High School administration's interpretation of either board or district policy related to these actions."
Attempts to reach school officials early Thursday were not successful. A secretary told the Morgan Hill Times that Boden and Rodriguez were unavailable for comment on Wednesday.
According to its website, Live Oak High School is a 1,300-student institution in the southern part of Santa Clara County, with most students residing in the nearby cities of Morgan Hill and San Jose.
"The student population reflects the rich ethnic and socioeconomic diversity of the [COLOR=blue! important][COLOR=blue! important]community[/COLOR][/COLOR]," the website reads.
More than 100 students were spotted wearing the colors of the Mexican flag -- red, white and green -- as they left school, including some who had the flag painted on their faces or arms, the Morgan Hill times reported.
While bandannas of any color are banned at the school, its dress code policy does not contain references to American flags.
"However, any clothing or decoration which detracts from the learning environment is prohibited," the policy reads. "The school has the right to request that any student dressing inappropriately for school will change into other [COLOR=blue! important][COLOR=blue! important]clothes[/COLOR][/COLOR], be sent home to change, and/or be subject to disciplinary action."
Freshman Laura Ponce, who had a Mexican flag painted on her face and chest, told the Morgan Hill Times that Cinco de Mayo is the "only day" Mexican-American students can show their national pride.
"There was a lot of drama going on today," Ponce told the newspaper.
Some other Mexican-American students reportedly said their flags were taken away or asked to be put away, but no other students were sent home on Wednesday.
Eugene Volokh, a professor of law at the University of California-Los Angeles, said the students are protected under California Education Code 48950, which prohibits schools from enforcing a rule subjecting a high school student to disciplinary sanctions solely on the basis of conduct, that when engaged outside of campus, is protected by the First Amendment.
If the school could point to previous incidents sparked by students who wore garments with American flags, they could argue that the flag is likely to lead to "substantial disruption," Volokh said.
"If, for example, there had been fights over similar things at past events, if there had been specific threats made," he said. "But if [school officials] just say, 'Well, we think it might be offensive to people,' that's generally speaking not enough."
Volokh said the students and their parents likely have a winning case on their hands if they decide to take the matter to court.
"Oh yes, it's almost open and shut," he said.
Lis Wiehl, a former federal prosecutor and a Fox News legal analyst, said the incident appears to a "blatant" violation of the students' First Amendment right to free speech. She noted that inciting violence is an exception to a First Amendment legal defense, but Wiehl said she saw no indications that the students provoked anyone.
"Unless I'm missing something, this seems like a blatant violation of the First Amendment," said Wiehl, adding that uniforms are not required at the public school. "And they're wearing, of all horrific things, the American flag."

FoxNews.com's Joshua Rhett Miller contributed to this report.

FOXNews.com - California Students Sent Home for Wearing U.S. Flags on Cinco de Mayo

I'd like to see these parents get fed up with this el toro doodoo and slap a lawsuit on these school officials. Maybe some of these clowns would think twice before knuckling under to this PC nonsense.
 

layoutshooter

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I was under the impression that this was the United States of America. We have a Constitution, freedom of speech. Everyone can display our flag, it is our right as an American.

I was under the impression that Cinco De Mayo was a Mexican holiday, not a U.S. Holiday. Many places in this country have been trying to limit the celebration of U.S. legal holidays, like Christmas.

Don't like the United States? Don't sneak in here, flaunt our laws and take advantage of our hardworking tax payers. Don't expect us to were Mexican colors in a U.S. school and don't get mad when we wear what we want. Can't live like that? Refuse to do the legal thing? GET OUT!!!!
 

chefdennis

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Press "1" for Spanish, "2" for English".....and if you are wearing a shirt with the American Flag on it, change it before you call back....Good Bye.....

PC B/S....but then what are we to expect when we don't deal with the illegals that are here.....the legals for the most part want nothing to do with those that are here illegally....they did it the right why and don't feel the need to cater to those that break the law......
 

LDB

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Total BS. The school officials should be fired and never work in education again. This is inexcusable.
 

greg334

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You have to ask why is cinco de mayo important in the first place and why would Mexico need our tourist money.

I like Mexicans, I never had a problem with any of them but they are not the real problem, their government is. I don't begrudge those who come here to make a living by invading our country but I do the people who say they are as important as the people who follow our rules to come here.

I already talked to a couple of Mexicans who were on vacation here, they understand my position when I said I would love to visit their country but not under the conditions we have here. They agree that the law in Arizona is the law in Arizona and as one of the pointed they understand the reasoning behind the law and my boycotting Mexico.

I can't understand people, they want to have a vacation spot and go to Mexico instead of somewhere here or Europe, while at the same time complaining about the issues we have.

I think Mexico can have California, let them bankrupt the state and let it become another state of Mexico.
 

layoutshooter

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I took my nephew down to a spot on Lake Erie that is one of my favorite catfish holes. It has produced fish for 50 years that I know of. It still is and in large numbers. I wanted to show him a place he could bank fish with his young son.

We walked up the beach and could see 4 or 5 people fishing. We approached them, smiling and asking the normal "How are you doin?" They spoke little English, they would NOT make eye contact, looking at us like we were 3 eyed toads.

We hung around for a bit so I could explain to my nephew how to fish the hole when he takes his son and how to fish it if he does not.

I watch those "invaders from the south" breaking fishing laws left and right. Over limits, cleaning fish in the water and throwing the remains in the Lake just to name two. It would not surprise me. I was not able to reach a conservation officer. He could have written a bunch of tickets.

It does amaze me. We have conservation officers that brag on how they are going to write up as many duck hunters in a day as they can but none to be found when it is not locals committing the infractions. I have little doubt that this activity takes place on a daily basis.

They need to leave.
 

Moot

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I think Mexico can have California, let them bankrupt the state and let it become another state of Mexico.

I think California is bankrupt fiscally and morally. They don't need any help from Mexico.

My son lived in Gaunajuato, Mexico for 3 months last year. He said Cinco de Mayo was recognized as a date Mexico defeated the French in a battle, but was not celebrated as it is in this country.

Mexican Independence Day is celebrated on dieciséis Septembre.
 

greg334

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How do you know they were from the south?

Did you maybe think they were from Europe?
 

layoutshooter

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How do you know they were from the south?

Did you maybe think they were from Europe?

They were speaking Spanish. They looked like they were Mexican. One of the cars had a Mexican flag in the back window.

I don't think they were from Spain and not likely from other parts of Europe speaking Spanish. There are many in this area, the church we USED to attend protects and harbors many.

They need to go.
 

copdsux

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As ya'll know, I'm a Democrat(5th generation)and fairly liberal in my political beliefs, but this is just wrong! Will I have to change clothes, if I show up at my church's Halloween party, dressed as the devil?
 

mjolnir131

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On Frigg’sday (Friday for the non heathens on the list) the 6th the school’s official statement was that the student had not been suspended but had been sent home for their own protection. This is one of the few times I’ll accept the retraction, because this means that there is a major threat to national security that needs addressed right now! Students lives are obviously in danger and immediate action need to be taken. We need to get really ****ed off about this and send them all home if there are not American citizens, naturalized or Jus soli, they need gone right now today .

Any politician not backing this need to go immediately as well, because they obvious are not there to take care of the public well being, there is no room for as they see in this situation. I don’t care how either, they can resign of their own volition, an immediate recall vote or we can shoot them , as B. Franklin stated that impeachments were put in place to cut down on political assassinations then when the first two option are unworkable the third is left as an out . You probably would only need to shoot one for the rest of them to step in line.

I’m not abdication the use of total violence but our founding father knew and warned us that times like these would come and the government would need replaced by force and it is our charge as American citizens to manage our government as necessary. Just because our “leaders” lack any resemblance of a spine is no excuse for our inactions.

These colors don’t run, but they can get you detention! –T.A. Falon
Give me liberty or give me death!-P. Henry
 

layoutshooter

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you darn fools....why did you NOT tell the whole story??

The district school board over ruled the principle and the boys were brought back....they were never officially suspended...

Being the teenage boys they were it is obvious even to the blind they did it to stir trouble and upset the apple cart...

sure they had a right to wear the T-shirts but they picked this day to do it...

These boys weren't being patriotic...they were just out to cause trouble...

Cause trouble? How? Those "others" who might have been offended should not be. After all, this is NOT Mexico. Seems to me that they would have been the ones to cause trouble. They should NOT have been sent home for ANY reason. IF there were threats of violence against those who wore the AMERICAN FLAG in an AMERICAN school on ANY day those who MADE the threats should have been arrested. If they were found to be here illegally they should have been deported.
 

layoutshooter

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come on Layout....they chose this day to wear the T-shirts...they are teenage boys..they knew exactly the reaction it would get...they were stirring the pot... being patriotic was the last thing on thier mind...


I would have done the same thing. They have the right to wear what they want, the "others" have NO right to cause trouble over it. If trouble was started, those who started the trouble would be at fault, not the ones who wore those shirts. Cinco De Mayo is not an American holiday and should not be celebrated in an American school. Period.
 

mjolnir131

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It's gotten to the point any bit of patriotism is considered rabble rousing and as a heathen i don't consider that all bad.

IF it truly is the case that the student wear just causing trouble, as an adult, what educators are suppose to be tho they are far from it but that is what they are suppose to be. One must pick your battles and picking this one was way wrong, and i bet the person who sent them home still thinks they did the right thing.
 

mjolnir131

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come on Layout....they chose this day to wear the T-shirts...they are teenage boys..they knew exactly the reaction it would get...they were stirring the pot... being patriotic was the last thing on thier mind...

Well then maybe it's mouth of babes situation, for this is a pot that need stirred!
 

layoutshooter

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It's gotten to the point any bit of patriotism is considered rabble rousing and as a heathen i don't consider that all bad.

IF it truly is the case that the student wear just causing trouble, as an adult, what educators are suppose to be tho they are far from it but that is what they are suppose to be. One must pick your battles and picking this one was way wrong, and i bet the person who sent them home still thinks they did the right thing.


The "adults" in that school should be stopping all trouble makers, not just American trouble makers, if there was really any trouble over it. If there was going to be trouble then any person wearing any shirt with the colors of any country should have been sent home. If they know that a student in that school is not a legal resident they should be required to turn them in to the proper authority.
 

mjolnir131

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Oh..you'd wear a Gay Pride T-shirt to a KKK meeting too?

Is common sense dead in you too now?

The district over ruled the principle who looks to have acted inappropriately issue done...

argumentum ad absurdum there is a grand difference between a private KKK meeting and a public school .. well mostly except for a few southern schools maybe
 

mjolnir131

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When an "adult" thinks wearing a flag of our nation is inappropriate on any school day we have problems that need immediate attention
 
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