What the ATeam says IS correct, assuming one figures in the cost of a long DH OUT of an area after a delivery. That can often cut the value of a load rather drastically.
How Goes the New 34-Hour Restart for You?
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One also has to take into account the hours involved in long dead heads, made all more important with the changes in the HOS.
Pay attention to what TennTrucker & ATeam said, because it's good advice. If your carrier can't provide pay that makes a load profitable [including DH on either end], don't take the load. If it's a frequent thing, don't stay with that carrier until you're broke.
You have the same right to expect a profit [the amount is negotiable] as any business, unless you agree to give it up. Your choice.
tenntrucker
Expert Expediter
Agreed, I look at total pay for all miles. That why I perfer percentage over miles pay.
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Many bills are introduced in Congress that do not become law, and a bill recently introduced to undo the 34-hour restart rule change may be one of them. Nevertheless, the introduction of such a bill is an interesting development.
See: House bill would undo hours rule, reinstate previous restart provisions
See: House bill would undo hours rule, reinstate previous restart provisions
I have spoken with and written my congressman on this. He is for this bill. My senators, useless as they are, would NEVER try to override a regulatory agency. They would not kick their lap dogs.
8secondbull
Rookie Expediter
8secondbull
Rookie Expediter
Oh yeah! I remember now. https://www.expeditersonline.com/fo...orum/59311-did-they-think-about-scenario.html
The only reason I'm bringing this back up is to illustrate that regardless of opinions on the situation this is a real world problem that the new rules are causing.
The only reason I'm bringing this back up is to illustrate that regardless of opinions on the situation this is a real world problem that the new rules are causing.
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bullwinkle37
Seasoned Expediter
hello well i havent been out there since the new hours has been in service so i dont know anything about them...so how does it affect solo drivers?
Responding to original post...we're not getting used to it. We recently accepted a load that required us to have one driver sit up front. It was a weekend load. The initial plan was a weekend at a safe haven (sister company location). The safe haven would remove the restriction of having a person sit up front. This fell apart when the safe haven facility shut down for over half the time we would be there thus removing rest room facilities for over half the time we would be there.
This forced us to a truck stop, and having to abide by the upfront rule. We may be wary of taking loads of that nature in the future but it depends ... in the case of this load it paid enough to justify the inconvenience. But in all seriousness it was definitely a royal PITA.
Regarding the 8 hour break rule...we find that we were doing it before anyway in one way or another so it's not difficult.
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Not too bad if your Teamed.
moose
Veteran Expediter
the FMCSA granted 6 exemptions already. best to do now, is communicate with them, your business associates, and your elected representatives.
House bill would undo hours rule, reinstate previous restart provisions
for example.
good luck & thanks for sharing.
What are the exceptions?
cubansammich
Not a Member
Most vans are exempted. Maybe these stringent regulations on big heavy vehicles is just what the doctor ordered for expediters. We need to get back to the basics of one man and one skid then everyone will be busy beavers.
moose
Veteran Expediter
Again, why do i need to do all the Googling around here, go fish. you can start with Hazmat, livestock, oil fields, regional, and my favorite:snow plow.
zorry
Veteran Expediter
Except for the Hazmat, I don't see the others affecting expeditors.
Except OVM snowplowing, and he isn't logging.
Pretty much the same as for teams: it sucks when it interferes with your personal needs and decisions on when to stop & go.
The less flexibility we have, the less safe we really are.