A few burning questions.

keithnel

Expert Expediter
I have been considering going into expediting for the past few years and have a few quick questions that I need answered. I appologize up front if these are silly or have already been asked and answered a thousand times before.

1. I see that most companies require a physical at orientation, but I also know that you must have a physical if you are going to have any kind of CDL. Are you required to take 2 physicals or does it pass as long as you have the long & short forms?

2. Best Bet - Sprinter Van or Cube Truck?

3. I have seen several straight trucks advertised that say "under CDL" but every company I see requires some sort of CDL license. What is the deal with that?

4. Are there some companies that are better suited for a green rookie?

5. Do any companies not require a CDL if you are driving a van / sprinter?

Thanks in advance for all of your advice!
 

x06col

Veteran Expediter
Charter Member
Retired Expediter
US Army
This won't answer any of your "burning" questions but, if you have been considering this, that long, and are that indecisive...... stay on the porch.

I believe you'll find your questions mute.
 

miker

Seasoned Expediter
no cruel intentions here, but the col has it, with this amount of knowledge for the biz, you will be eaten alive and taken for granted, especially in these times.
 

Rounkles1

Seasoned Expediter
Go ahead & ask your questions & do your home work lesson #1 never get into a spot you can't get out of. I have shoved enough freight out the door in my time both as shipping clerk &as a recieving clerk & as a driver .This Industry is not a 9 to 5 gig things are constaintly moving & changing .DON'T SIT ON THE PORCH TOO LONG.WHEELS FORWARD
 

fastman_1

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
some anwsers for ya, 1 Physical will do ya unless they want it from there quack
I would go with the Sprinter, with a Box Truck you lose weight cap. with the box unless your talking about a straight Truck then go with that
CDL Even Vans have to have a CDL If you haul Haz-mat
Question 4 is I always did better with a small company
Question 5 see answer for question 4
 
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Poorboy

Expert Expediter
some anwsers for ya, 1 Physical will do ya unless the want it from there quack
I would go with the Sprinter, with a Box Truck you lose weight cap. with the box unless your talking about a straight Truck then go with that
CDL Even Vans have to have a CDL If you haul Haz-mat
Question 4 is I always did better with a small company
Question 5 see answer for question 4

There are "Some" Companies out there that "Make" you Use Their Doctors for the Physical Such as Tri-State, Costs You $85.00 for the Physical and Drug Screen. I can Only Surmise as to Why They "Make" You Use their Doctor But I would Rather Not Say as There Isn't any Good Reason Why They Couldn't Take a D.O.T. Physical from another Doctor! In Other words, Before Getting your Physical You Might want to check with the Companies to see if you can get your own Physical or Do They Make You Use Theirs!! :D
 

cheri1122

Veteran Expediter
Driver
Poorboy: I'm just guessing here, but I've read of drivers who 'doctor shop' to pass the exam, or just forge a certificate - maybe that's why a carrier would want the exams done by their own doc.
As to the questions, they have all been asked before, so a lot of reading will provide the answers, which are mostly that every one has different needs, so a specific answer [cargo van or cube?] is tough to provide.
And of course: attend the Expediters Expo in Wilmington, Oh, at the end of July! :)
 

Poorboy

Expert Expediter
Poorboy: I'm just guessing here, but I've read of drivers who 'doctor shop' to pass the exam, or just forge a certificate - maybe that's why a carrier would want the exams done by their own doc.
As to the questions, they have all been asked before, so a lot of reading will provide the answers, which are mostly that every one has different needs, so a specific answer [cargo van or cube?] is tough to provide.
And of course: attend the Expediters Expo in Wilmington, Oh, at the end of July! :)

Oh I'm Quite Sure Your Right about of the "Doctor Shopping" I'm Sure It Goes On As well as the Forged Certificates, But I'm Thinking That If a Perspective Driver were to go to a Well Known Established Clinic and Get His/Her D.O.T. Physical then Why wouldn't that Suffice? When I went Through Orientation at Tri-State There were a Number of Other Drivers Including Myself that Had Just Had Their D.O.T. Physicals within a Couple of weeks and Tri-State Still Made us Pay and Take another One From "Their" Doctor! My Physical and 2 Others were done at the Clinic On Alexis Rd. In Toledo which is a well known Honest Established Clinic for D.O.T.s.......So We Had to Pay For something that we had Just Done. So My Advice to the New Wanna Be a Driver was to Check First Before Wasting his Money on an Outside Physical if the Company is Going To Make You Take Another One with Their Doctor! :D
 

Jack_Berry

Moderator Emeritus
I have been considering going into expediting for the past few years and have a few quick questions that I need answered. I appologize up front if these are silly or have already been asked and answered a thousand times before.

1. I see that most companies require a physical at orientation, but I also know that you must have a physical if you are going to have any kind of CDL. Are you required to take 2 physicals or does it pass as long as you have the long & short forms?

this would be a good question to ask a recruiter.



2. Best Bet - Sprinter Van or Cube Truck?

what can you afford to spend? new or used? gas or diesel?


3. I have seen several straight trucks advertised that say "under CDL" but every company I see requires some sort of CDL license. What is the deal with that?


once again ask the recruiter. .

4. Are there some companies that are better suited for a green rookie?

yes

5. Do any companies not require a CDL if you are driving a van / sprinter?

once again ask the recruiter.

Thanks in advance for all of your advice!

finally, if ou have not already "searched" on this site for these answers then please do so. there is a huge wealth of knowledge if you are willing to mine it.
 

Jack_Berry

Moderator Emeritus
this is a list of questions for you to ask a recruiter besides the ones listed. this is provided from the ooida site. i think there were questions for a recruiter in the expedite now series but i cannot find them.

Turn the tables and interview the interviewer when searching for a carrier to lease with. Here are some questions that may assist with your search:
1. Will you fax me a copy of your lease? Yes or no…it’s as simple as that. If the answer is no, this interview is over. If a company refuses to provide you with a copy of its lease so you can read it at your leisure and discuss it with an OOIDA business services representative or your attorney, you can bet that company has something to hide. Don’t waste another minute…just hang up, call the next company on your list and ask the same question. Repeat this procedure until you get a positive response, then follow up by carefully reviewing the lease. If you need help, you know you can get it from OOIDA.
Once you get a sample copy of the company’s lease, you should find answers to many of your questions within the terms of the lease, but go ahead and continue with your interview anyway. It doesn’t hurt to double check.
2. What is the average annual compensation your leased owner operators can expect? If the figure is reasonable according to your expectations, you may want some additional information later, but for now, go on to your third key question.
3. Will I be required to load/unload? If the answer is yes, and you are willing to live with that, you’ll certainly have more questions to ask later, so keep this in mind as you proceed with your remaining key questions.
4. Do you have forced dispatch?
5. What is your policy on riders?
Your own key questions may be different than the ones we’ve suggested above. What’s important to one person is not necessarily quite so important to another, so feel free to come up with questions that you want answered before you’ll consider signing on with a company. The point is to save time by knowing what you want from a company and finding out whether it is worth your consideration by asking a few initial questions before going in to more detail.
If your interview is looking good so far, it’s time to dig deeper. Here are some additional questions that will help you learn more about the company you are interviewing:

1. How is my compensation figured?
Percentage of gross ____ Rate ____
Mileage ____ Rate ____

2. If paid by the mile, how is mileage calculated?
Hub miles ____
Computer program such as PCMiler, HHG, etc. ____; Practical ____ Shortest ____
Dispatched miles ____
Empty miles ____
Loaded miles ____

3. How will I receive my compensation?
Check ____; Mail or Pickup?
Electronic Transfer ____
Compensation credited to card ____

4. Will I receive advances on loads?
If so, how? Check ____; Card ____; Any Fees for this?

5. Is an escrow, security deposit, performance bond, or any type of money held back by the company?
Yes ____ No ____ (If so, what is the required amount, and what is the return policy?)

6. Does the company pay for:
Layovers ____ Rate ____
Detention time ____ Rate ____
Canceled loads ____ Rate ____
Multiple drops and picks ____ Rate ____
Tolls ____
Permits and license ____
Cargo insurance ____
Liability insurance ____
Any required operating equipment such as tarps, chains, binders, jacks, Qualcom ____
Fuel taxes ____
Road use taxes ____
Scale tickets ____
Physicals and drug tests ____
Uniforms if required ____

7. Does the company pay its owner operators a fuel surcharge? (If so, does the cost bearer receive 100% of the fuel surcharge? If not, why not?)
8. If I am required to load/unload, how will I be compensated?
Flat rate ____ Rate ____
Hourly ____ Rate ____
Piece ____ Rate ____
By weight ____ Rate ____

9. If not, how is the lumper issue handled?
Company contract with lumpers ____
Advances for lumpers (deduct from settlement) ____
Reimbursement for lumper with receipts ____

10. Am I required to purchase insurance or anything else through the company?
Yes ____ No ____ (*Note: It’s important to note that federal leasing regulations prohibit the company from making this a condition of the lease. If you choose to purchase insurance from/through the company, you are entitled to a copy of the policy.)

11. What insurance will I be required to purchase and maintain? (If work comp is required, can I get a less expensive occupational accident policy instead?)


12. If the company provides cargo insurance, what is the limit? (If the load is over the policy limit, what is the company policy? In some cases, the owner operator may be liable for amounts that are over the limit in the event of a claim)

13. What is the company policy on unattended trailers? (Some cargo policies exclude coverage for this)
14. Will all bills of lading be in the company’s name? (A bill of lading that is not in the company’s name may void cargo coverage)
15. What hold harmless provisions are included in the lease? (These clauses can cost a leased owner operator money, so be sure that you are aware of them)
16. Is there a fleet average of miles run per week? If so, what is the average?
17. How many days/weeks will I be kept out?
18. What is the policy on home time?
19. What regions does the company expect me to run? (Does the company run in areas that you don’t want to go, such as Canada, Mexico, NY, or any others?)
20. Do you offer dedicated runs? (If yes, how do I get one?)
21. Will I work directly with brokers (hand-offs)?
22. What is the company policy on check calls (status for the day)?
23. Does the company charge for trailer rental? (If so, how much?)
24. What is the company’s trip lease policy?
25. What is the company’s turnover percentage?
26. Do you have company owned trucks? (If so, are company trucks loaded before owner operator trucks?)
27. Is there a complaint resolution program?
28. Does the company offer any discounts to leased owner operators on various items that are essential to their trucking operation?
29. Am I required to attend orientation? (If so, am I compensated?)
30. Do you have a sign-on bonus? (If yes, what is the amount?)
31. Does your lease contain a non-compete clause? (Watch out for this. Such clauses can prohibit you from leaving the company and going to work for a competitor. Make sure an end-date is specified if you agree to this provision.)
Your personal list of interview questions may grow or shrink as you determine your own requirements, but this checklist is comprehensive enough to give you a good idea of how the company operates. Include the contact person’s full name, company’s name, phone number, and date on your checklist for future reference. You may even want to ask the company recruiter to sign off on it. Don’t count on that happening, but I don’t think this would be a problem for anyone who has answered your questions honestly…do you?




you might want to start out driving for an owner to learn the business before jumping into an owned van. i know of a nice sprinter sitting in st louis currently.
 

Dynamite 1

Moderator
Staff member
Fleet Owner
i agree 100% with all the answers . a few i would not take to heart. such as avg. miles of the fleet and avg. pay. find and talk to drivers with the perspective co. that interests you or ask the recruiter for phone #. i like the previous but asking is like the lease ?, if they say no, then let that tell you something. always take 20% off of figures you are given as a buffer, some just routinely do better than others. some exagerate to feel better. most important thing, make sure your personal finances at home are in order. dont come out here needing a whopping income each week just to pay the personal bills {this is good advice in any case but esp. if you are going to own} i always liked to ask the recruiter what they can guarantee me. if the answer has anything to do with the miles or pay amounts they are lying. make sure you do a budget based on the slimest amt. of money you can live on each week. not what you would like but what is needed to pay the bills. last, if at all possible, come to expo. this will answer most of your ? cause both groups of people will be there. companies and drivers. good luck, we are all here to help more if you need it.
 

guido4475

Not a Member
And please dont go with a company that requires you to pay primary insurance, which is the insurance that you and the co usually pay combined. Last week, I was talking to a co. out of chicago that required me, in a cargo van now, to pay primary ins. with him paying me .85cpm. Get real.If I was going to pay primary ins, it would be to have my own authority.I prefer small companies versus larger ones just for the fact that alot of large co's have ridiculous amount of deductions, as well as how much they charge.A small co is just so much more enjoyable and easier to deal with, just from past experiences.But I will say this: Landstar was by far the nicest and easiest to deal with as well as fair big co that I have worked for.
 

DannyD

Veteran Expediter
This would be a classic case of where 2 people can both be right but view something differently. It just depends on what works for you. That company he was talking about I think is one I just signed on w/. My logic is for the difference in insurance rates I'll take .85CPM when a lot of companies are paying in the .70CPM range. Jeez, one company even told me .40CPM. So I'll gladly pay a lil bit more for the insurance.

Also w/ primary insurance you can work for more than one company if the company will allow it. So far I'm w/ 2 & looking to add a 3rd. Since I have my own insurance, unless I'm missing something here, a company really has nothing to lose by signing me on. As long as when I get a run I keep in contact w/ the others so they don't bid a load thinking I'm some place I'm not, then I think it could work out well.

One caveat here. My van, while in good shape, is only worth $4,000 or so. I think the difference in rates for a vehicle worth more would be wider.


And please dont go with a company that requires you to pay primary insurance, which is the insurance that you and the co usually pay combined. Last week, I was talking to a co. out of chicago that required me, in a cargo van now, to pay primary ins. with him paying me .85cpm. Get real.If I was going to pay primary ins, it would be to have my own authority.I prefer small companies versus larger ones just for the fact that alot of large co's have ridiculous amount of deductions, as well as how much they charge.A small co is just so much more enjoyable and easier to deal with, just from past experiences.But I will say this: Landstar was by far the nicest and easiest to deal with as well as fair big co that I have worked for.
 

guido4475

Not a Member
And out of curiosity, how is it working out as far as being signed on with 2 companies at the same time,in the weekly revenue total?
 

DannyD

Veteran Expediter
Uhhh.. So far zero. I just signed on w/ a company last week, & they got me nothing. I'm signing on w/ another one here on Monday.

As for the first company, they've been upfront & let me know it was slow. Also, it being a mom & pop shop, they let me know that her husband gets the first load on Mondays & I'd be next. We live about 10 miles from each other. Once we're on the road then it comes down to who's where the freight is.

I was upfront w/ them & they know I might not be there long. They're not authorized for straight trucks & that's kind of my long term goal. All this was talked about before signing on. Not like I'm signing on w/ the 2nd company as a reaction to anything they did. More like I saw the post on here & thought it would be a good idea. Plus, company #2 pays a lil better & has 3 shifts of dispatch. Since I'm more of a night person than a day one, dispatch that is 9-5 is a bit of a drawback.

I'll hopefully be on the road starting Tuesday. Once I'm out I don't have a laptop, so posts will be spariodic. I'll keep ya updated as best I can though.
 
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