Two Cases Of Police Shootings.

muttly

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Case #1 :
A Grand Rapids Mi. police officer was charged with 2nd degree murder in the death of a individual during a traffic stop. The individual resisted arrest and grabbed the officers taser before being killed. The individual was later revealed to be heavily intoxicated with alcohol and well over the legal limit. The decision to prosecute the officer by the prosecutor came after around 3 months of investigation and deciding whether to go forward with charges or not. This incident made national news and there were some local protests in Grand Rapids demanding an arrest and prosecution.
Case # 2 :
A motorist driving a pickup truck is involved in a head on collision with a semi. According to 911 calls to police dispatch the pickup driver was acting strange, was holding a knife, and had self inflicted cuts on his arms. One of the first responding officers came upon the person with the knife and immediately ordered him to drop the knife. The individual didn’t drop the knife immediately and allegedly took a step towards the officer before said officer began firing his service weapon. The individual fell to the ground and was getting back up with the knife in hand. The officer yelled to drop the knife again. The individual immediately did not. The officer proceeded to empty the rest of his clip. Nine rounds total.
After a 3 week investigation, the officer was cleared of any wrongdoing.
This case didn’t make national news and was just covered locally by the news.


Two cases with similarities. Both officer’s used deadly force after their perceived threat of great bodily harm by individuals.
Can anyone spot the differences in the two cases and why the disparities in news coverage between the two?
Also, what other actions could the officers in the two incidents have done differently? I have my opinions, but would like to hear from others first. Thanks.
 
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Ragman

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Case #1 :
A Grand Rapids Mi. police officer was charged with 2nd degree murder in the death of a individual during a traffic stop. The individual resisted arrest and grabbed the officers taser before being killed. The individual was later revealed to be heavily intoxicated with alcohol and well over the legal limit.
Nice fabrication of events..

Loyola was shot in the back of his head.
 
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Pilgrim

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Nice fabrication of events..
There is no fabrication of events - none. Nowhere in the post is there anything in the post that implies otherwise.
Loyola was shot in the back of his head.
The articles plainly state multiple times where the victim was shot. For those who watched the video, this is a great example of why cops shouldn't patrol alone. A simple traffic stop went south in a hurry when a drunken perp resisted arrest. When a physical altercation results, chaos ensues and any number of things can go wrong. A struggling criminal with a taser is not going to present a stationary target at close quarters, so a wound could be inflicted anywhere. This is what happens when police get defunded and they have to patrol alone. Imagine what could've happened to the cop if the passenger had jumped into the fight.
 

danthewolf00

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There is no fabrication of events - none. Nowhere in the post is there anything in the post that implies otherwise.

The articles plainly state multiple times where the victim was shot. For those who watched the video, this is a great example of why cops shouldn't patrol alone. A simple traffic stop went south in a hurry when a drunken perp resisted arrest. When a physical altercation results, chaos ensues and any number of things can go wrong. A struggling criminal with a taser is not going to present a stationary target at close quarters, so a wound could be inflicted anywhere. This is what happens when police get defunded and they have to patrol alone. Imagine what could've happened to the cop if the passenger had jumped into the fight.
Case in point that fight in Atlanta a few years ago where 2 cops fought with a perp that grabbed a tazer off a cops belt.......do stupid :censoredsign: win stupid prizes.
 

LDB

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Don't fight and resist police and you don't have a problem. That much conflict and violence toward police and you could be shot anywhere and probably deserve it.
 
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muttly

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The two cases I presented both individuals didn’t comply with the officers’s command, but the first case the officer is facing a 2nd degree murder charge after a three month investigation while the second case the officer was cleared after a three week investigation.
Also, the first case garnered national news while the second case, not a peep.
 
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