Survey sez ...

RLENT

Veteran Expediter
Since it has been suggested to me that this post was inappropriate in another thread I am reproducing it here - along with other related media coverage:

Well this certainly seems to have the potential to further enrage Mr. Netanyahu ... since it seems to fly directly in the face of the narrative he's trying to construct ...

Marsha Cohen of the Inter Press News Service details and analyzes the results of the Anti-Defamation League's latest survey on anti-semitism, the Global 100: An Index of Anti-Semitism:

ADL Survey Shows Iran Least Anti-Semitic Middle East Country | IPS Writers in the Blogosphere

Interestingly, it appears Israel itself was not surveyed ... or if it was the results were not included ...
Israeli author Carlos Strenger - who writes his "Strenger than Fiction" column @ Israeli news site Haartez - offers some thoughts on how this ground-breaking report could be put to use:

Memo to Netanyahu: Read ADL survey, and stop equating Israel criticism with anti-Semitism!

Israel’s right wingers consistently make the most horrible of mistakes by associating with European parties and politicians from the extreme right.

By Carlo Strenger | May 14, 2014 | 8:56 PM

The Anti-Defamation League's monumental anti-Semitism survey produced a host of insightful results, some of which have been insightfully discussed by Chemi Shalev. I want to focus on one result that is particularly important for Israeli policy.

Israel's right wingers, led by Netanyahu, have turned the conflation between anti-Semitism and criticism of Israel's occupation and settlement into a national sport. Any time somebody criticizes Israel, Bibi starts the lamentation that Israel's existence is being delegitimized, that anti-Semitism is rearing its ugly head again and that the Jewish people's continuity is being threatened. In doing so, Netanyahu, of course, implies that critics of Israel are by definition anti-Semites, and therefore immoral.

I have pointed out time and again that I believe Netanyahu's position on the issue untrue and harmful. I did so primarily on the basis of my close acquaintance with Western Europe and American liberals. Liberals in general tend to be critical of Israel's occupation policy for a very simple reason: It contradicts their value of universal human rights. Israel's occupation is seen as denying Palestinians their basic human and political rights, and liberals see this as unacceptable. Period. At the same time, liberals generally tend to be less anti-Semitic than conservatives, because it is part of their value system to decry any form of discrimination on the basis of race, religion or gender.

The ADL's survey provides powerful empirical support for the position I have held along with my liberal friends. Consider the following: Britain is a hotbed of criticism of Israel's policies and has some of the most vocal groups supporting Boycott, Sanctions and Divestment (BDS) of Israel to force it to end the occupation. But lo and behold: The UK has one of the lowest percentages of anti-Semitic attitudes on the planet − only 8% of Brits are bigots when it comes to Jews. The same holds true for Sweden, which has the lowest incidence of anti-Semitism (4%) on the planet except for Laos, and is nevertheless known for its vocal criticism of Israel's occupation policy.

All Netanyahu, Elkin & Co. achieve when they equate criticism of Israel's occupation policy with anti-Semitism is that they infuriate many of Israel's genuine friends. I can attest to this from close personal experience. I know many European and American liberals who care about Israel, follow its fate and genuinely wish it well. At the same time they are profoundly saddened by Israel's turning away from the lofty values enshrined in its Declaration of Independence, which promised equal rights to all, independent of race, religion or gender. These people do not have a single anti-Semitic bone in their bodies, and will not be beaten into silence by Israel's right wingers droning on about how anti-Semitic Israel's critics are.

At the same time Israel's right wingers consistently make the most horrible of mistakes by associating with European parties and politicians from the extreme right. They believe that they find allies there, because Europe's extreme right currently sponsors Islamophobia. Israel's right wingers come to the simplistic conclusion that European rightists must therefore be genuine friends of Israel, because they suffer from a profound learning disorder: They still haven't realized that bigotry is an illness that, when convenient, will turn against Jews as well. I guess that's because Israel's right wingers share the trait of bigotry, and are therefore unwilling to fully face its dangers.

Mr. Lieberman might also do well to spend some quiet time thinking about the implications of the ADL's survey. He has, time and again, declared Europe to be irrelevant and has tried to find genuine friends for Israel in the East. I do not know whether he has learned anything from his resounding failure to turn autocrats like Mr. Putin and the rulers of Belarus into reliable friends who have Israel's interest in mind. If he hasn't, he might do well to note that Belarus has 38% of anti-Semitic attitudes and Russia 30%, and compare this to the vocal critics of Israel in Western Europe he dislikes so much!

Obviously, Netanyahu and Lieberman will have trouble digesting the implications of the ADL's survey. Like all right wingers, their success is based on evoking humankind's more primitive emotions like fear, hatred and xenophobia. And they are therefore highly unlikely to genuinely engage with facts that contradict their political tactics and strategy.

For all friends of Israel, whether Gentiles or Jews, who combine their friendship with a genuine moral compass and firm belief in human rights, the ADL's survey reinforces what we have known for a long time: Bigotry and ignorance are two of the most powerful sources of violence, cruelty and injustice. We will continue to stick to our guns, and the inflammatory rhetoric of Netanyahu, Lieberman, Elkin and Co. won't intimidate us, because truth is on our side.
Original article:

Memo to Netanyahu: Read ADL survey, and stop equating Israel criticism with anti-Semitism!

Certainly some interesting observations there, among them: ... liberals generally tend to be less anti-semitic than conservatives ...

My, my ... I never would have guessed ...
:rolleyes:
 
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RLENT

Veteran Expediter
Here's Israeli Chemi Shalev's thoughts and observations on the ADL survey, which are mentioned and linked in Strenger's article above:

Ten comments on ADL's global survey of anti-Semitism (It's not all bad)

The most infuriating findings? That 62% of Poles, 61% of Lithuanians and 52% of Austrians(!) think Jews 'talk too much about the Holocaust.' Seriously.

By Chemi Shalev | May 13, 2014 | 9:40 PM

1. The ADL poll of 53,100 adults in 102 countries is the largest, broadest and deepest survey of global anti-Semitic attitudes in history. It found that 26% of the surveyed population, representing over a billion people worldwide, "harbor anti-Semitic attitudes."

The survey provides a veritable treasure chest of information on how people around the world view the Jews. It will serve as a benchmark for future discussions of anti-Semitism, but is also bound to elicit criticism and create controversy.

2. Love it or loathe it, the survey is another crowning achievement for outgoing National Director Abe Foxman, who is slated to leave office in the summer of 2015. Foxman casts a giant shadow over the ADL in particular and the American Jewish world in general: His shoes are so big that his successor will have a hard time struggling to be noticed, let alone fit.

3. Greece is the number one country standing in the dock of the accused. True, it has a lower "Anti-Semitism Index" than any Middle Eastern country (except for Iran, another surprise) but compared to other countries – especially those that have a long history with the Jews – its performance is dismal all across the board. 85% of Greeks believe that "Jews have too much power in the business world," for example, and close to 70% that Jews have too much influence over global affairs, the financial markets and the U.S. government. It is testament, among other things, to people's tendency to blame their economic woes on the most convenient scapegoat, especially when goaded to do so by race-baiting politicians and especially when the targets are the time-tested Jews, who have been filling the same role for the Greeks for over two millennia.

Apprehensive of the damage that the finding might cause to Greece's good name, Prime Minister Antonis Samaras has already scheduled a meeting with Foxman and other ADL executives.

4. Iran, on the other hand, not only emerges unscathed from the survey but actually stands out for the positive. It has the lowest "Anti-Semitic Index" (56%) of all Middle East countries. It is a finding sure to confound hasbara people and one that can be attributed, among other things, to the relative sophistication of the Iranian people, to the continued existence of the local Jewish community – unlike in most Arab countries – and to the Iranian leadership's ongoing protection, for its own reasons, of Iranian Jews.

5. In fact, the ADL poll more or less upsets the apple cart altogether in disestablishing the causal connection between anti-Jewish and what are widely perceived as anti-Israeli sentiments. Sweden – Sweden, for God's sake – a hotbed of anti-Israeli agitation that is routinely labeled as anti-Semitic is the LEAST anti-Semitic country in Western Europe, according to this survey, along with its Nordic neighbors – Iceland, Finland, Norway and Denmark.

On the other hand, Eastern European countries such as Poland, Bulgaria and Ukraine, whose governments are rock solid supporters of Israel, harbor large segments of anti-Semitic feelings. The outliers are the Czechs, god bless them, who have always felt themselves more Western than Eastern European anyway. And what can you say about South Korea, a country with excellent diplomatic and commercial ties to Israel whose population – 53%, by ADL's standards - has very questionable views of Jews.

6. Kudos to Laos, now officially defined as the least anti-Semitic country in the world, with an infinitesimal index of 0.2%. Of course, Laos has no known history with the Jews and less than ten permanent Jewish residents, which begs the anti-Semitic observation that this scarcity is the reason for the benevolent Laotian attitude. But as the survey makes clear, the opposite is apparently true: countries with more than 10,000 Jews tend to hold fewer anti-Semitic views than those with no Jewish population whatsoever.

7. The worst anti-Semitism, by ADL's definition, was measured in the Middle East and North Africa, from the West Bank and Gaza (93%) and Iraq (92%) to Saudi Arabia (74%) Turkey (69%) and Iran (56%). No surprise there, really, given that in most Middle Eastern countries the media freely engages in anti-Jewish agitation, with governments either sitting idly by or actively taking part.
Nonetheless, it is an open question whether anti-Jewish sentiment in a region in which a. there are hardly any Jews and b. sees itself at war with the Jewish state and/or as the usurpers and oppressors of the Palestinians should really be included in the same rankings as all the rest, or whether Muslim anti-Semitism isn't a category all to itself.

At the press conference in New York on Tuesday, someone asked half-jokingly why the survey did not gauge anti-Semitic attitudes in Israel and how Israelis would fare if asked similar questions about Muslims. Better than some, probably, but just as bad as most, if not worse.

8. The inclusion of the benchmark of "dual loyalty" perceptions is also problematic. It is one thing for people in the United States or Western Europe to maintain that Jews are "more loyal to Israel than to their host countries" but something completely different when someone in Malaysia believes so. In many countries with no sizeable Jewish population, people's sole exposure to news about Jews is through media reports on AIPAC, the ADL and others. Ignorance is no excuse, but it may explain why this question is the number one marker of anti-Semites (41% believe that Jews are more loyal to Israel).

Foxman, however, dismisses these reservations. For him, seeing Jews as more loyal to Israel is another chapter in centuries-old allegations that Jews can't be trusted or that they are subservient to a foreign power. "That's the way the Nazis started," Foxman said, "by accusing the Jews of selling out Germany."

9. The findings on the Holocaust are understandable or at least explainable, but nonetheless depressing. Only 33% of those polled have both heard of the Holocaust and believe it has been accurately described by history. And Holocaust awareness decreases with age, which bodes badly for the future.

For me, though, the most infuriating finding of the entire survey is the list of countries that believe that Jews "talk too much about the Holocaust": These include Lithuania (65%), Poland (62%), Hungary (61%) and Austria (52%). Sort of makes you wonder if their real gripe isn't that the Nazis simply weren't thorough enough.

10. And of course, there is always the danger of mixing animosity with admiration. When 42% of the Chinese, for example, say that Jews "think they're better than other people" is that anti-Semitic? Don't most Chinese think they're better than other people? And, for that matter – don't most Americans?
Original article:

Ten comments on ADL's global survey of anti-Semitism (It's not all bad) - Haaretz
 

RLENT

Veteran Expediter
Phil Weiss chimes in with additional observations on the NY Times coverage of the survey and some thoughts on logical inconsistencies:

'NYT' publishes unvarnished ADL propaganda: 93% of Palestinians are anti-Semites

Philip Weiss on May 15, 2014

A lot of folks are talking about the big new anti-Semitism survey by the Anti-Defamation League that says that more than one in four people worldwide harbor anti-Semitic attitudes.

The New York Times ran a straight story about the survey without questioning its methods, as several others now have. The Times includes these tendentious claims in the third paragraph:

The highest concentration of anti-Semitic attitudes was found in the Middle East and North Africa, the survey showed, led by the West Bank and Gaza, where 93 percent of respondents held such views, followed by Iraq at 92 percent, Yemen at 88 percent and Algeria at 87 percent. The areas where anti-Semitic attitudes were least prevalent were Oceania, the Americas and Asia. In Laos, less than 1 percent of the population held such views, the lowest anywhere, the survey said.
Oh those virtuous Laotians.

And if 74 percent of the people in North Africa and Middle Eastern countries harbor anti-Semitic attitudes, can that have anything to do with the west's implanting a Jewish state in their midst, and that state's reliance on Jewish symbols? The survey also says that 49 percent of Muslims have anti-Semitic beliefs. Again, aren't Israelis part of that dyad? No; to say so would be to endorse one of 11 anti-Semitic stereotypes, per the ADL:

"People hate Jews because of the way Jews behave"

Many have faulted the design of the poll. New York Magazine said the study lacks nuance about discriminatory belief, Marsha Cohen asks why Israelis weren't polled, the Guardian says the survey has "a political agenda" as a "propaganda tool."

According to the ADL, a person counts as harboring anti-Semitic belief if he/she agrees with 6 of 11 negative stereotypes about Jews. These 11 include stereotypes of Jews having too much financial or global power, the aforementioned claim that "People hate Jews because of the way Jews behave," and, the most popular negative stereotype, with 41 percent saying they believe it:

"Jews are more loyal to Israel than to this country/the countries they live in."

The ADL is serving its pro-Israel interest here. The Israel lobby theory, for instance, is a theory of outsize conservative Jewish influence. And, as the Guardian notes (below), many Israel lobbyists insist on loyalty to Israel: for instance Sheldon Adelson saying he wishes he had served in the Israeli army not the American one or the late Myra Kraft saying her sons could fight for Israel not the U.S. The list of serious folks who have identified dual loyalty as a legitimate issue includes John Judis, Eric Alterman, Michael Scheuer, MJ Rosenberg, and Melissa Weintraub.


Other negative stereotypes are that Jews have too much control over the U.S. government and too much control over the global media. These suggest that we are not allowed to talk about the remarkable rise of Jews into the Establishment, something everyone from Tony Judt to Jane Eisner to Jeffrey Goldberg has commented on. Or what about Tom Friedman saying that George W. Bush deferred to Israel because he absorbed the lesson from his father's 1992 defeat that AIPAC rules and you must not take on Israel? We can't talk about that.

Donna Nevel and Marilyn Kleinberg Neimark make related points in an excellent piece on the survey in the Guardian:


The most striking example of a leading question undergirds the ADL's claim that the highest percentage of anti-Semitism is among Palestinians who live in the occupied territories. The ADL asked a group of people for whom the movement of goods, money and labor is controlled by Israel, "Do Jews have too much power in the business world?". Were they really to be expected to answer anything but "yes"?

The survey also labels as anti-Semitic any belief, including by Palestinians in the occupied territories, that Jews talk too much about what happened to them in the Holocaust – despite other responses that indicate that too many people in the world don't know about the Holocaust at all. But Palestinians commonly hear the Holocaust used to justify the expulsion of 750,000 Palestinians from their homes in 1948, and as justification for the continued occupation under which Palestinians are subjected to daily denial of their basic human rights.

In its press release, the ADL states that "The most widely accepted anti-Semitic stereotype worldwide is: Jews are more loyal to Israel than to this country/the countries they live in." It's an odd indicator of anti-Semitism given that Israeli leaders consistently claim to speak for the global Jewish community and consider loyalty to Israel a precondition for being a good Jew. So it's actually not surprising that this constant assertion has penetrated the consciousness of the rest of the world.

These questions, and many others in the ADL survey are designed to gin up paranoia.
P.S. Note that Joseph Massad and Sherry Gorelick have independently argued that insistence on wall-to-wall Jewish support for Israel is a form of anti-Semitism.
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'NYT' publishes unvarnished propaganda saying Palestine is hotbed of anti-Semitism
 

cheri1122

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AntiSemitism is so easy to blame, just like racism is the only reason people criticize what Obama does, right?
So what does it mean when I criticize Sarah Palin, Michelle Bachmann, and other white women?

Carlos Strenger makes a point we need to be reminded of: cheering the bullies [because they're not picking on you] can backfire, when they tire of the current victim, and look around for another.
 

aquitted

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AntiSemitism is so easy to blame, just like racism is the only reason people criticize what Obama does, right?
So what does it mean when I criticize Sarah Palin, Michelle Bachmann, and other white women?
It means your Jealous! (lol)
 

RLENT

Veteran Expediter
AntiSemitism is so easy to blame,
Because of historical events, leveling it as a charge has been a very potent weapon.

Sadly, it is becoming devalued by those who would level it carelessly or spuriously - often simply in an effort to prevail in a political disagreement.

This - in my mind at least - is actually an insult to those who have actually been victimized by it ...

just like racism is the only reason people criticize what Obama does, right?
Yup ... in many instances it's a lazy way to argue ... and to respond to perfectly valid issues or points being raised.

Of course, that's not to say that anti-semitism doesn't exist ... or that some are opposed to Obama perhaps partially (or even wholly in some instances) due to race.

So what does it mean when I criticize Sarah Palin, Michelle Bachmann, and other white women?
Well, theoretically it simply says that you disagree with them in some manner ... at least on certain things ...

Whether it says anything beyond that, might well depend on the exact nature and tenor of any such criticism ...

Carlos Strenger makes a point we need to be reminded of: cheering the bullies [because they're not picking on you] can backfire, when they tire of the current victim, and look around for another.
Indeed ...
 

cheri1122

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My criticism of Palin is that she's an unprincipled fame *****, and Bachmann is just loony - but you read the quick response: I'm just jealous.
Because a loony, unprincipled fame ***** is just what I would be, if I could. :rolleyes:
 
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