RE teacher Gary Smith's Muslim attackers jailed

EnglishLady

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I bet this is one teacher who wishes the kids were home schooled !!



Four Muslim men who assaulted a religious education teacher because they did not approve of him teaching Muslim girls, have been jailed.

Gary Smith, 38, was beaten as he walked to Central Foundation Girls' School in Bow, east London, last July.

The gang left him unconscious after attacking him with a metal rod and a brick, Snaresbrook Crown Court heard.

The four all pleaded guilty to GBH with intent and given an indeterminate jail sentence with a minimum of five years.

Simon Alam, 19, of Whitechapel, Azad Hussain, 26, of Wapping, Sheikh Rashid, 27, of Shadwell, and Akmol Hussein, 26, of Bethnal Green, all in east London, were all jailed on Thursday.

Judge John Hand QC said he believed the four remained a danger to the public because of their extreme religious beliefs.

Addressing the defendants one by one, he said: "Your belief is that you carried out a duty to your God and you did so with no mercy.

"If you think that people around you in society present an insult or threat to God then you will not hesitate in attacking again in the way that you have acted."

'Mocking us'

The court heard Mr Smith suffered multiple injuries, has a permanent 4.7in (12cm) long deep scar across his left cheek, and the whole of the facial part of his skull was broken.

The court heard how the men were only caught because Hussein's car was being bugged on an unrelated matter.

Hussein, who had a niece at the school, was heard to say: "He's mocking us and he's putting thoughts in people's minds.

"How can somebody take a job to teach Islam when he's not even a Muslim himself?"

Depression and anxiety

Hussein was also recorded as saying he did not care if he had to go to prison over the attack as he was doing it for the sake of Allah.

Prosecutor Sarah Whitehouse said Mr Smith had been head of religious studies at the school for eight years, was "by all accounts an able, enthusiastic and popular teacher".

The court heard he cannot remember the attack and has problems with his memory and sufferers from depression and anxiety - all of which now affect his ability to teach.

A fifth defendant, Badruzzuha Uddin, 24, of Shadwell, east London was jailed for two years after admitting a charge of assisting an offender after he hid the men's bloodstained clothes.
 

Turtle

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It's a private girls school.

Central Foundation Girls' School is a voluntary-aided secondary school for girls, in Bow, Tower Hamlets, London. It is a designated Performing Arts Specialist School.

It is the sister school to Central Foundation Boys' School in Islington. Both schools are beneficiaries of the charity Central Foundation Schools of London, which in turn is a beneficiary of The Dulwich Estate, successor to the historic Alleyn's College charity.

Welcome to the website for Central Foundation Girls' School
 

layoutshooter

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Confused, why a religious teacher there?

You can get any kind of illegal weapon you want in any country. Yep, it stopped violence.

They beat him like that to teach a lesson, other wise, if it suited their needs, they would have shot him or blown him up with illegal explosives that were outlawed to stop attacks. That worked too! :rolleyes:
 

Turtle

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But they didn't use a gun...oh yea, they outlawed guns...to lower the chance of violent crime....:rolleyes:
Actually, they outlawed guns to lower the chance of violent crime committed with guns. Not that that's the point of the article, tho.

I think the point of the article was that four religious wackos attacked a man for purely religious reasons. And they all admitted to doing so, without remorse, and were sentenced to jail. Religion can be funny like that sometimes.
 

Turtle

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Confused, why a religious teacher there?
I don't know if he was a "religious teacher", other than perhaps he taught religiously. The article said he was a religious education teacher, not a religious teacher. It also states that he was head of religious studies. Many schools (like the one I attended) have a religious studies course, where comparative religions and the basics of the various religions are taught.

I had a teacher who taught history, but I never really thought of him as an historical teacher. I had this one math teacher, though, she was pretty mathelicious.
 

layoutshooter

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If they did not like what was taught there why did they send their kids there to start with? It is not a mandatory type school.
 

EnglishLady

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Confused, why a religious teacher there?

You can get any kind of illegal weapon you want in any country. Yep, it stopped violence.

They beat him like that to teach a lesson, other wise, if it suited their needs, they would have shot him or blown him up with illegal explosives that were outlawed to stop attacks. That worked too! :rolleyes:


sorry - stepped out for dinner :p


Unless a school is designated say ....a Catholic school for example, in my day - all other schools taught Religious Education -> Church of England.

Nowdays all religions are covered in these classes.

R.E. Teachers are just, as has been stated, teachers who specialise in the subject.
 

layoutshooter

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sorry - stepped out for dinner :p


Unless a school is designated say ....a Catholic school for example, in my day - all other schools taught Religious Education -> Church of England.

Nowdays all religions are covered in these classes.

R.E. Teachers are just, as has been stated, teachers who specialise in the subject.


Hope dinner was good, no need to be sorry about eating!

IF they don't like the form of Religious Education, then why send your kids there in the first place? Establish your own school to teach as you like.

I smell a rat.
 

EnglishLady

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Hope dinner was good, no need to be sorry about eating!

IF they don't like the form of Religious Education, then why send your kids there in the first place? Establish your own school to teach as you like.

I smell a rat.


There are Muslim schools and they can be exempt from R.E. so I too don't understand :confused:
 

EnglishLady

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Did they send some kids into that school just to cause trouble?


I wouldn't have thought so .... but saying that they HAD to have known the curriculum that the schoold followed.
So they could have exempted the students from R.E.

Its really no wonder ppl are concerned about Muslims when this sort of thing happens - even though as Turtle said these are extremist wacko's.
 

layoutshooter

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What about the school itself? Is it a school that one sends their kids there by choice or are they just sent there, like a neighborhood school?
 

chefdennis

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Turtle wrote:

Not that that's the point of the article, tho.

I agree, but my statement was to the general attitude that outlawing guns stops violent crime..yea it stops alot of gun crime, but not even all of that, but even wthout guns, there will still be violent crime..
 

layoutshooter

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I think this a private school as opposed to a local g'ment funded run school

Then assuming that those kids were sent there by choice, knowing that they could exempt themselves from the R.E. , for what reason were they sent there OTHER than to cause trouble? There was no NEED for the issue to come up.
 

EnglishLady

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Turtle wrote:



I agree, but my statement was to the general attitude that outlawing guns stops violent crime..yea it stops alot of gun crime, but not even all of that, but even wthout guns, there will still be violent crime..


Oh I don't believe that outlawing guns stops violent crime at all .....

as seen here all it takes is a metal bar and a household brick

:mad:
 

layoutshooter

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Sue is right, guns were not outlawed in England to restrict gun crime.

England started restricting weapons long before any form of firearms were prevalent even in the hands of governments.

It was done so to insure the power of the Crown.

There were some religious overtones to this under King James.
 

chefdennis

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Sue, your thoughts are inline with rational people, but those from the lib left will tell you that out lawing guns will lower violent crime...and even in the US where we now have more guns in the hands of more people that at any other time, thats just not true...the opposite is true... the more guns that are in the hands of people in given area the lower the crime rate....
 
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