Question for Firearms Experts

layoutshooter

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Ok, I know there are many in here who know a lot more about guns than I do. I have a question. Who makes rifles with Wylde Chambers besides RRA? Is there anyone out there re-chambering Ruger .223's with a Wylde Chamber? Curious minds want to know. Thanks, Layoutshooter
 

Steady Eddie

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Ok, I know there are many in here who know a lot more about guns than I do. I have a question. Who makes rifles with Wylde Chambers besides RRA? Is there anyone out there re-chambering Ruger .223's with a Wylde Chamber? Curious minds want to know. Thanks, Layoutshooter

Are you wanting to shoot 5.56 in your .223? Wylde chamber is a little shorter than the NATO chamber. (I am aware of at least 5 different chamber lengths for the .223/5.56, the NATO chamber being the longest). As far as accuracy goes, it probably won't have a great effect, particularly under 300-400 meters. However, anything is possible and before you try for that once in a lifetime shot you should wring out any potential problems on a range.

Not sure who can do this, but you can check with a Gun Smith who may know, or point you in the right direction.
 

layoutshooter

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I am aware that you cannot fire a 5.56x45 in a .223 chamber, not only is the length of the camber shorter but the .223 is not designed to handle the higher pressure of the mil spec round. I was under the impression that the Wylde chamber could handle both rounds. I know Rock River Arms sell a rifle with the Wylde chamber. Just have not found anyone else. Layoutshooter
 

Steady Eddie

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I am aware that you cannot fire a 5.56x45 in a .223 chamber, not only is the length of the camber shorter but the .223 is not designed to handle the higher pressure of the mil spec round. I was under the impression that the Wylde chamber could handle both rounds. I know Rock River Arms sell a rifle with the Wylde chamber. Just have not found anyone else. Layoutshooter


True, unless you re- chamber the .223...
 

layoutshooter

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This is were I get confused SteadyEddie. I know you can lenghten the .223 to acomodate the 5.56mm but how do you "up" it's ability to handle the higher pressure? Looking at prices it might just be less expensive to "Pony Up" for the RRA. By the time I bought a Ruger Mini-14 ranch and then put a match trigger on and did the smithing work I bet I would have spent more. Oh well, it is fun looking at all of this. Been awhile since I worked in the firearms/sporting goods industry and I do kinda miss just "chewing the fat" with others who just enjoy shooting for no other reason than to just do it well. I used to really enjoy making "single holes" in a target with 3 shots. I doubt if I can ever get that good again. I don't have any where near the range time and I am WAY not as young as I was back then. But I would love to try. Layoutshooter
 

Steady Eddie

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This is were I get confused SteadyEddie. I know you can lenghten the .223 to acomodate the 5.56mm but how do you "up" it's ability to handle the higher pressure? Looking at prices it might just be less expensive to "Pony Up" for the RRA. By the time I bought a Ruger Mini-14 ranch and then put a match trigger on and did the smithing work I bet I would have spent more. Oh well, it is fun looking at all of this. Been awhile since I worked in the firearms/sporting goods industry and I do kinda miss just "chewing the fat" with others who just enjoy shooting for no other reason than to just do it well. I used to really enjoy making "single holes" in a target with 3 shots. I doubt if I can ever get that good again. I don't have any where near the range time and I am WAY not as young as I was back then. But I would love to try. Layoutshooter

Idontknow

That was my first question to the orig poster...why? The shorter chamber is dead on, lenghten it looses some ability to lay a smack down on some paper or varmitts. I would stick with the .223 and go with the RRA if the need is there.
 

layoutshooter

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That is what I most likely do, go with the RRA. I wanted to be able to use surplus 5.56mm when I get good buys on it. More plinking per dollar is what I am after. Thanks for your help. Layoutshooter
 

OntarioVanMan

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Since I am going to be in Rapid City on Monday am going to put in my gun application at Cabela's on the way out...and then prolly go back when I come home in 4-5 weeks and purchase that 22 rifle.....is there one size up from that??
 

iceroadtrucker

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Removed due to Snoops

Lee Marvin was in in the Service

Bob Keeshan was too but too late for a Medal

Mr Rogers

 
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Steady Eddie

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Since I am going to be in Rapid City on Monday am going to put in my gun application at Cabela's on the way out...and then prolly go back when I come home in 4-5 weeks and purchase that 22 rifle.....is there one size up from that??


You can go to the .17, but if you are just shooting cans and snakes 22 is fine. Ruger 10/22 should do fine for ya.
 

spudhead911

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.ExternalClass DIV {}Captain Kangaroo passed away on January 23, 2004 at age 76 , which is odd, because he always looked to be 76. (DOB: 6/27/27 ) His death reminded me of the following story.


Some people have been a bit offended that the actor, Lee Marvin, is buried in a grave alongside 3 and 4-star generals at Arlington National Cemetery His marker gives his name, rank (PVT) and service (USMC). Nothing else. Here's a guy who was only a famous movie star who served his time, why the heck does he rate burial with these guys? Well, following is the amazing answer:


I always liked Lee Marvin, but didn't know the extent of his Corps experiences.






In a time when many Hollywood stars served their country in the armed forces often in rear echelon posts where they were carefully protected, only to be trotted out to perform for the cameras in war bond promotions, Lee Marvin was a genuine hero. He won the Navy Cross at Iwo Jima There is only one higher Naval award.... the Medal Of Honor!





If that is a surprising comment on the true character of the man, he credits his sergeant with an even greater show of bravery.

Dialog from 'The Tonight Show with Johnny Carson': His guest was Lee Marvin Johnny said, 'Lee, I'll bet a lot of people are unaware that you were a Marine in the initial landing at Iwo Jima ..and that during the course of that action you earned the Navy Cross and were severely wounded.'




'Yeah, yeah... I got shot square in the bottom and they gave me the Cross for securing a hot spot about halfway up Suribachi. Bad thing about getting shot up on a mountain is guys getting' shot hauling you down. But, Johnny, at Iwo I served under the bravest man I ever knew... We both got the Cross the same day, but what he did for his Cross made mine look cheap in comparison. That dumb guy actually stood up on Red beach and directed his troops to move forward and get the hell off the beach. Bullets flying by, with mortar rounds landing everywhere and he stood there as the main target of gunfire so that he could get his men to safety He did t his on more than one occasion because his men's safety was more important than his own life.




That Sergeant and I have been lifelong friends. When they brought me off Suribachi we passed the Sergeant and he lit a smoke and passed it to me, lying on my belly on the litter and said, 'Where'd they get you Lee?' 'Well Bob... if you make it home before me, tell Mom to sell the outhouse!'




Johnny, I'm not lying, Sergeant Keeshan was the bravest man I ever knew. The Sergeant's name is Bob Keeshan. You and the world know him as Captain Kangaroo.'





On another note, there was this wimpy little man (who just passed away) on PBS, gentle and quiet. Mr. Rogers is another of those you would least suspect of being anything but what he now portrays to our youth. But Mr. Rogers was a U.S. Navy Seal, combat-proven in Vietnam with over twenty-five confirmed kills to his name. He wore a long-sleeved sweater on TV, to cover the many tattoos on his forearm and biceps. He was a master in small arms and hand-to-hand combat, able to disarm or kill in a heartbeat






After the war Mr. Rogers became an ordained Presbyterian minister and therefore a pacifist. Vowing to never harm another human and also dedicating the rest of his life to trying to help lead children on the right path in life. He hid away the tattoos and his past life and won our hearts with his quiet wit and charm.




America's real heroes don't flaunt what they did; they quietly go about their day-to-day lives, doing what they do best. They earned our respect and the freedoms that we all enjoy. Look around and see if you can find one of those heroes in your midst. Often, they are the ones you'd least suspect, but would most like to have on your side if anything ever happened.




Take the time to thank anyone that has fought for our freedom. With encouragement they could be the next Captain Kangaroo or Mr. Rogers



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:)



This is not true. go to snopes.com and you will find that the above story is very wrong.
 

spudhead911

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I just traded my Ruger Target Grey .22 hornet for a Savage model 25 light weight varmint rifle in .223, the .223 is cheaper to shoot, especially when you do a lot of target shooting. I have a .204 Ruger Target Grey that will out shoot the .22 hornet any day of the week. Those little .17's are great I have both the .17 HMR and the .17 MII. i also have a Remington model 700 VTR in .308 that's a great shooter also.
 

layoutshooter

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I still say the .22 is the best to learn on. Then you can move up a touch or two. Besides the idea is to have as many guns as you can afford. Don't you know the rules of the game of life? He who dies with the most toys wins!!! I think you are way behind. What gun permit? You don't need a gun permit for a long gun. Got me confused on that one. Layoutshooter
 

OntarioVanMan

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I still say the .22 is the best to learn on. Then you can move up a touch or two. Besides the idea is to have as many guns as you can afford. Don't you know the rules of the game of life? He who dies with the most toys wins!!! I think you are way behind. What gun permit? You don't need a gun permit for a long gun. Got me confused on that one. Layoutshooter

Isn't there a security something to own any firearm...background check?
 

layoutshooter

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You only have an instant FBI backround check. Is your drivers license in SD or ON? Take all your immigration papers etc. with you. There should be no problem buying any long gun in SD. Just have to prove residency. Layoutshooter
 

OntarioVanMan

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You only have an instant FBI backround check. Is your drivers license in SD or ON? Take all your immigration papers etc. with you. There should be no problem buying any long gun in SD. Just have to prove residency. Layoutshooter

Thanks Layout...I have a South Dakota CDL B now....

Passport/resident card/green card/ birth cert. I presume?

Still have a valid FAST card!! Even a reduced copy of marriage license!! I have ID coming out the Kazoo from my border crossing days....Those border monkeys asked for something different when ever they wanted too....I was prepared!!
 

layoutshooter

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Your welcome and enjoy the freedom. I am not aware of any SD laws that would require anything else. Layoutshooter
 

spudhead911

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I still say the .22 is the best to learn on. Then you can move up a touch or two. Besides the idea is to have as many guns as you can afford. Don't you know the rules of the game of life? He who dies with the most toys wins!!! I think you are way behind. What gun permit? You don't need a gun permit for a long gun. Got me confused on that one. Layoutshooter

A .22 is execllant to learn on, I bought my grandson a nice Henry .22 for his first gun. I know the rules very well. I have 18 long guns and 2 pistols. I plan on adding more to the collection. Most of the long guns are target/varmint/tactical rifles, six are in .223 cal.
 
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