Progressive Insurance goes up again !!!!

RMPM01

Seasoned Expediter
That is it, I got to look for some other insurance company. From $377 to $535 per month, with no claims reported, this is just too much !!!!!

I was thinking going back to Grange Insurance.
 
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Mike99

Veteran Expediter
Let us know if you find any...We look since last year,and I we did not find any...They own this market.
 

RoadHouse

Active Expediter
Why not just raise your rates that you charge your carrier/customer to accommodate the higher cost of insurance? I don't see how people are still running for 85 cents per mile in today's market. I'm getting 90 cents per mile from Express Family.
 

RMPM01

Seasoned Expediter
Raising rates will not work here :( Do people still drive for 85 cpm?

What I dont understand is, why did it go up so high? I will call CIS tomorrow
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
because they were too low below.....now they are reflecting the real market value....they might go higher yet...
 

RMPM01

Seasoned Expediter
I did forgot to mention that I drive a cv. Is that what you cargo venners pay these days?
 

davekc

Senior Moderator
Staff member
Fleet Owner
Raising rates will not work here :( Do people still drive for 85 cpm?

What I dont understand is, why did it go up so high? I will call CIS tomorrow

Someone has to cover those yellow cube vans running around.
Some of them are running around for less than .85 CPM
 

RMPM01

Seasoned Expediter
Less then.85 CPM ?! I see them less and less, I think. Well I havent been to Loredo TX in a while, maybe they all are hiding there. :rolleyes:
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
In Ont. Canada....about 10 years ago..I was paying about 7500 a year for a CV....liability is the big killer, with the courts handing out these huge settlements...I moved here and could not believe how low your rates were down here....it was a gold mine for small business...
 

Dynamite 1

Moderator
Staff member
Fleet Owner
That is it, I got to look for some other insurance company. From $377 to $535 per month, with no claims reported, this is just too much !!!!!

I was thinking going back to Grange Insurance.

what value do you have set on your vehicle. in a st. trk. we took about a 40$ per mo. increase. we are averaging about 150$ per mo. per trk. for 3 trks. with 30k to 33k values.
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
what value do you have set on your vehicle. in a st. trk. we took about a 40$ per mo. increase. we are averaging about 150$ per mo. per trk. for 3 trks. with 30k to 33k values.
That sounds great.....some people have a tendency to OVER insure the vehicle, and there are some agents will let you because they get their commissions...which is really a waste because you won't get that money back...
 

runrunner

Veteran Expediter
Why not just raise your rates that you charge your carrier/customer to accommodate the higher cost of insurance? I don't see how people are still running for 85 cents per mile in today's market. I'm getting 90 cents per mile from Express Family.

.85 or .90 is the same thing. Would you turn down a 500 mile run over a nickle?
 

Dynamite 1

Moderator
Staff member
Fleet Owner
.85 or .90 is the same thing. Would you turn down a 500 mile run over a nickle?

that depends, you cant just blow that .05 off on every load thinking no big deal. if you haul a 100 loads a year that 25$ you lose is 2500$. i can do alot with 2500$. also, that next load you get, probably even the same day will most likely pay your rate. we only use rates below our minimum to get a necessity accomplished. not because of the miles. in other words, we dont accept a below minimum just because it has miles on it. no profit, no move. there are many factors in acceptance as we all know.
 

zorry

Veteran Expediter
This thread should remind people that they should revalue the vehicles prior to renewal.
Also, if paying monthly, look and see what that benefit really costs.
I'll save almost $450 this year on my Progressive policy by switching from monthly to annually.
 

Dynamite 1

Moderator
Staff member
Fleet Owner
This thread should remind people that they should revalue the vehicles prior to renewal.
Also, if paying monthly, look and see what that benefit really costs.
I'll save almost $450 this year on my Progressive policy by switching from monthly to annually.

we have been looking at that also. any money saved just adds to the bottom line and can be used elsewhere to reduce some other cost.
 

JohnMueller

Moderator
Staff member
Motor Carrier Executive
Safety & Compliance
Carrier Management
Great comments here.

The insurance market is definitely "harder" this year. It's been pretty soft for the past few years, and this is pretty much cyclical.

I just completed the insurance renewal at our company. The increases were very tough to stomach - so much so that the agent came back and told me he did not appreciate the "tone" of my emails to him. I had put statistical information in response to his proposal to substantiate my thoughts that due to our very low loss history, an increase was not in order.

We still had to accept a 62% increase in one area of coverage where we have had zero loss history since the inception of our company 12 years ago!

Experience tells me, when looking at the overall coverage that the quote was reasonable from the insurance company's perspective. I also know that the market will soften at some point and the rates will decrease. Experience also tells me that the relationship I have with my insurance agent warrants an understanding because I know that my agent has the best interests of my company in mind. I know that that agent is looking to get the best rates possible to retain my business. Know that CIS does the same.

Thanks,
 

RMPM01

Seasoned Expediter
what value do you have set on your vehicle. in a st. trk. we took about a 40$ per mo. increase. we are averaging about 150$ per mo. per trk. for 3 trks. with 30k to 33k values.

We lowered the value of our CV, saved $22 per mo.

We will use the "pay in full discount" savings of $789

Cant wait till next year renewal :mad:
 

jelliott

Veteran Expediter
Motor Carrier Executive
US Army
Insurers look at the numbers for an individual segment when rating an industry. Like any business they evaluate dollars taken in vs. dollars spent out. I think the rates are simply adjusting to the realities of the market and the realities of the true exposure. I have said for a few years on here it would happen over time.
 
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