Our Facist adminstration?

[greg334]

I have been reading No Ordinary Time again and somewhere buried in the book is a brief story of FDR, John L Lewis and the coal strike of 1943.

In our reecent past, we have heard a lot from the media that Bush's administration was acting in a Fascist manner with the Patriot Act and other things but when I heard a comparison of Obama to Hitler, everyone seemed to bring the persons to task.

So in the book, No Ordinary Time, it shows how our present administration may be thinking just like the National Socialist thought during that time by quoting FDR.

If you don't know, John L Lewis was the leader of the United Mine Workers and a very important supporter of FDR up until FDR ramped up war production. He pledged not to "strike for the duration of the war" but broke that promise not based on anything other than the desire to unionize all of the coal miners in the country.

FDR made the comment that the government will not compel people to join any union because this is what Hitler does. He threaten Lewis with the US government taking over the unionized coal mines. Lewis gave in but it shows that even though FDR depended on labor for their support, he wasn't going to go down the same path as what the country was fighting against.

So this seems to indicate that Obama is doing what FDR refused to do, force people to be unionized by supporting card check, rewarding the unions with their pension fund bailouts and so on.

 

[layoutshooter]

No surprise here. Obama's ideas are an amazing mix of the facist and the communist. He does not believe in the ideas of private property or free markets. He firmly believes in the governments "right" to control every aspect of human life and the collective good. Individuals are not important.

 

[LDB]

The hard core National Socialists were evil. Hitler, Goerring, Goebbels and many of their hard core followers were evil. You can call fascism evil and people agree. You can call Hitler evil and people agree. Call Obama and his minions evil and it's apoplexy.

 

[dieseldiva]

I have been reading No Ordinary Time again and somewhere buried in the book is a brief story of FDR, John L Lewis and the coal strike of 1943.

In our reecent past, we have heard a lot from the media that Bush's administration was acting in a Fascist manner with the Patriot Act and other things but when I heard a comparison of Obama to Hitler, everyone seemed to bring the persons to task.

So in the book, No Ordinary Time, it shows how our present administration may be thinking just like the National Socialist thought during that time by quoting FDR.

If you don't know, John L Lewis was the leader of the United Mine Workers and a very important supporter of FDR up until FDR ramped up war production. He pledged not to "strike for the duration of the war" but broke that promise not based on anything other than the desire to unionize all of the coal miners in the country.

FDR made the comment that the government will not compel people to join any union because this is what Hitler does. He threaten Lewis with the US government taking over the unionized coal mines. Lewis gave in but it shows that even though FDR depended on labor for their support, he wasn't going to go down the same path as what the country was fighting against.

So this seems to indicate that Obama is doing what FDR refused to do, force people to be unionized by supporting card check, rewarding the unions with their pension fund bailouts and so on.

I recently finished "The Forgotten Man". It covers the time period of 1929 to 1940. While it doesn't make the comparisons to the current administration, you can't help but see them as you read it.

I'll have to get "No Ordinary Times" on my kindle as I find these similarities striking, especially the ones that FDR tried that didn't work. Apparently we're doomed to repeat this part of history as we don't seem to have learned anything from it.

 

[RoadKing06]

History has repeated itself for many times over. People just don't learn, from past mistakes, can you say insanity.

The new breed always thinks they can do it better and it will work this time because they are different, yeah right, what ever.

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[greg334]

The hard core National Socialists were evil. Hitler, Goerring, Goebbels and many of their hard core followers were evil. You can call fascism evil and people agree. You can call Hitler evil and people agree. Call Obama and his minions evil and it's apoplexy.

Well Leo, evil is a misplaced word, because I can say Lincoln was evil, Wilson was evil and so were many who were part of our history and justify it - Sherman comes to mind as one who ranks up there as evil.

BUT see the reason I posted this was to show how far we have come and how much the country is screwed up. NOT to give away the details of the test outside of seeing what people think.

I recently finished "The Forgotten Man". It covers the time period of 1929 to 1940. While it doesn't make the comparisons to the current administration, you can't help but see them as you read it.

Wow, you should have read that a while ago. He did a great job in how he put it together for many to get a grip on a real history of that time.

I'll have to get "No Ordinary Times" on my kindle as I find these similarities striking, especially the ones that FDR tried that didn't work. Apparently we're doomed to repeat this part of history as we don't seem to have learned anything from it.

The book deals with the years leading up to the war and the war years itself. Goodwin does a good job illustrating the faults of FDR's cabinet and even has a glimpse into his twisted world of decision making.

It isn't that we didn't learn anything, it is really because we like what we got and don't want to change it.

 

[dieseldiva]

Wow, you should have read that a while ago. He did a great job in how he put it together for many to get a grip on a real history of that time.

I know, I have a small wicker basket under the bed in the truck and this book has been in there for over 2 years. I have so many books, I try to pick what interests me at the time, I think I get more out of it that way.


The book deals with the years leading up to the war and the war years itself. Goodwin does a good job illustrating the faults of FDR's cabinet and even has a glimpse into his twisted world of decision making.

Talk about twisted decision making, how about that scene in the forgotten man when FDR was "holding court" in his bedroom in the mornings, sitting up in his bed and setting the prices of gold?? I thought that was insane!



It isn't that we didn't learn anything, it is really because we like what we got and don't want to change it.

Hadn't looked at it that way but you're right.

If more of us would dig in and truly learn, these conversations might just become more civil.