OOIDA Members

JohnO · Nov 26, 2006

In case folks haven't seen this as yet. Non members are welcomed to join OOIDA <http://ooida.com/> and help with class action suit.

OOIDA is assisting the attorneys bringing the class action suit for Hot Fuel in finding Named Plaintiffs to represent their states in the case.

Being a "Named Plaintiff" would require at least two days of your time. Time and travel expenses would be reimbursed to you.

If you are interested in being a named plaintiff, and have purchased fuel from the following four vendors:
1. Wal-mart
2. The Pantry &/or Murphy's Oil
3. Alon &/or Fina
4. Motiva &/or Texaco (East of the Miss. River)

Then please respond with:

Your Full Name
Your OOIDA member Number
Your State of residence, and
The Length of time you've lived in your State

Thank you in advance for your participation.

Warm regards,

John Siebert
Project Leader
OOIDA Foundation

Crazynuff · Nov 26, 2006

Why isn't Flying J being sued over hot fuel ? They were the ones mentioned most in the original OOIDA article about a year ago . Funny though , similar articles quoting OOIDA never mentioned Flying J . Evidently Flying J has more powerful attorneys than OOIDA . Before falling for this membership drive readers should ask why Flying J is not part of the suit and just what the compensation will be for " time and travel " .

greg334 · Nov 26, 2006

>Why isn't Flying J being sued over hot fuel ? They were the
>ones mentioned most in the original OOIDA article about a
>year ago . Funny though , similar articles quoting OOIDA
>never mentioned Flying J . Evidently Flying J has more
>powerful attorneys than OOIDA . Before falling for this
>membership drive readers should ask why Flying J is not part
>of the suit and just what the compensation will be for "
>time and travel " .

I think that they (OOIDA) stepped back and let some states handle the issue, like texas. I read the other day that there some talk of standardizing the temp through law instead of having a non-formal agreement. It was not a popular position to take in texas but justified by the person writting the article.

I don't buy fuel from FJ at all since I filled up and and ended up with a less than full tank.

Anyway another point is how many of you wrote to your representitive to ask them to look into the matter?

sixwheeler · Nov 26, 2006

what's "hot fuel" ?

RichM · Nov 26, 2006

Fuel expands when it is heated,then reverts back to it's original size when it cools down. Flying J and others were heating the fuel in their storage tanks.So you would fill up and the pump might indicate that you pumped 100 gallons but in reality you may have only received 98.5. A friend of mine who has an RV filled up at the Flying J in Albuquerque NM. The outside temperature was 62,the temperature of the fuel was 105 degrees.

I along with others noticed a slight drop in fuel mileage when fueling at the Flying J's. This is due to actually getting slightly less then the pump showed. I don't know why they are not part of this lawsuit. OOIDA exposed Flying J but there was never a public response from Flying J.

Crazynuff · Nov 26, 2006

Thanks for adding your post , Rich . I remember your experience when the issue first came up . It really is strange that the only time Flying J was mentioned was in the original Land Line article in March 2005 . If you check OOIDA archives now for the article Flying J isn't mentioned . Flying J ripped off a lot more truckers than WalMart did .

Crazynuff · Nov 26, 2006

>>Why isn't Flying J being sued over hot fuel ? They were the
>>ones mentioned most in the original OOIDA article about a
>>year ago . Funny though , similar articles quoting OOIDA
>>never mentioned Flying J . Evidently Flying J has more
>>powerful attorneys than OOIDA . Before falling for this
>>membership drive readers should ask why Flying J is not part
>>of the suit and just what the compensation will be for "
>>time and travel " .
>
>I think that they (OOIDA) stepped back and let some states
>handle the issue, like texas. I read the other day that
>there some talk of standardizing the temp through law
>instead of having a non-formal agreement. It was not a
>popular position to take in texas but justified by the
>person writting the article.
>
>I don't buy fuel from FJ at all since I filled up and and
>ended up with a less than full tank.
>
>Anyway another point is how many of you wrote to your
>representitive to ask them to look into the matter?
Asking how many wrote their representative is a good question . That's a big problem in the industry today . O/O's define organization as paying dues to an association and letting a lobbyist be their voice . When other organizations are making more generous contributions that voice isn't heard very well . Organization should be individual communications with representatives or 20 or 30 O/O's getting together with documents from other O/O's and making an appointment for a face to face meeting with their representatives from each state . Let them know how many voters support these issues . Will things ever happen this way ? Not likely .