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Looking to buy a new van. Transit or Promaster

Discussion in 'General Expediter Forum' started by TSXpress2015, Dec 19, 2017.

  1. TSXpress2015

    TSXpress2015 Active Expediter

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    Just recently had my 2015 MB 2500 extended totaled. I am wanting to know what others have to say regarding the transit and the promaster. Engine life expectancy, comfort, value, handling. I won't go the route of MB. It's hard to find a shop that will do repairs on them, and they're extremely costly no matter what the repair. I'm sure the others aren't cheap, but it's a lot easier finding a ford or dodge garage.
     
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    T270_Dreamin Veteran Expediter Owner/Operator

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    I have found that Sprinters are cheap to fix, you get what you pay for. Stick with longevity. How many miles are were on your 15 Sprinter?
     
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    214000. Bought it in October of '16 with 36000.
     
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    OntarioVanMan Veteran Expediter Owner/Operator

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    agreed....most things are straight up mechanics and don't require a sprinter tech...those dealers can be killers...if you buy your parts from places like Rock Auto and Euro parts ahead of time...you can save a whack off dealer prices....
    example I bought an AC compressor with dryer included with FREE shipping for $365.....dealer price $1195 with NO dryer which was like another $150....been 4 yrs now and still working great..I got my moneys worth...
     
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    You made the right choice last time, make it again ...
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    I am not nearly knowledgeable to give my opinion, but i will say i drove 2 different promasters for 2 different owners, one from mileage 150k-200k one from 20k to 50k.

    Slow accelerations, smooth braking, regular oil changes and maintenance....i never had one single issue with either of them. The second one even pretty much stayed idling for AC.

    All i know is im for sure getting a gas engine van. Unless i find a wheelchair van for cheap (with the raised back doors so i can be considered a "sprinter") ill probably stick with promaster.

    But like i said, i have no idea whats best, im relatively new, just giving my experience with promasters.
     
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    BlindSquid Active Expediter Owner/Operator US Army

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    OVM has the right of it. Sadly without a mechanic in the pocket you're a hostage. Most of the components are "mated" to the vehicle computer. This is extensive, even the stupid little motor on the EGR.
    A mechanic needs to know & have the ability to deal with that.

    I did much of my own work but still ran to the dealer to get it "mated".
    Cheaper but it gets old after awhile.
     
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    BlindSquid Active Expediter Owner/Operator US Army

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    Tsx I read your post on that incident.

    As far as your stated topic; while I have an EL high roof transit I have the 3.7. I burn the hi-test in it (recommended in owners manual & it downshifts less).
    I did not choose the 3.5 for 2 reasons.
    (1) My sprinter turbo fried @ 97k, it took the regional guy ( many phone calls) to get it fixed under warranty the dealer claimed it a 10k repair (learned later it was 2.5k). Gurley Leap Mtrs. in Mishawaka were the crooks involved.
    So I'm gun shy on a repeat.
    (2) I got the 4.10 LS axle. I knew those tires had to go (235/65/16) odd size with no options (went to 225/75/16) common & everywhere.
    Didn't really believe the 3.31 axle could deal with that.

    I have since learned others here have done that with no stated Ill effects (@ 245)75/16 no less)
    My mileage is the same as 3.5 from what I've read here. I drive 60-63 with 17 - 20mpg.
    The sprinter was more comfortable, this will do (@ half the price).
    My 2¢
     
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    I'm still trying to find a mechanic who will do labor in Toledo (gas engine).
    It's like taking eggs and bacon to a restaraunt and asking to prepare. Lol
    Any referrals would be welcome!
     
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    OntarioVanMan Veteran Expediter Owner/Operator

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    For those rare gas Sprinters?
    Of course I have to sign off parts warranty on thier part but the labourportion still applies I have run into the problem of customer supplied parts being a no no
     
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    Engines with turbos require some extra thought and effort. Let the engine warm up before driving. Drive slow for the first few miles and go easy with the accelerator. This allows warn oil to flow to the turbo bearings. Before shutting down, idle for a minute or two to let the turbo spool down and stay lubricated.
     
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    Also, won't lots of mountainous driving fry turbos?

    Only 97K ... woof .. that ain't much at all ...

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    Drove my sprinter in the mountains and anywhere else you can think of (no water though) and haven't managed to fry the turbo in 775k miles.

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    Same here ... I got 608K on mine ...

    Couple of years back I was speaking to a guy that owned a shuttle company in the Rockies. Ran Sprinters from the airport in Denver to Aspen, Vail, etc ... frying turbos was his #1 headache.

    I said lots of mountainous driving :)
     
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    Maybe he could alleviate that headache by educating his drivers about turbo engines.
     
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    Yeah, but you drove it like you owned it.;)
     
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    Maybe ... simply reporting what I heard out in the field ....

    I go out west more than most but I have no idea how a properly cared for turbo would perform under those conditions. Daily back & forth through the Rockies has to put that component under mucho stress ...

    dpf filters was his #2 headache ... lol
     
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    I suppose a turbo would work harder at higher altitudes to supply the same amount of air to the engine that is required at lower elevations. Constant high altitude driving could lead to premature turbo failure.
     
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    I would be looking into a turbo upgrade.

    I imagine there’s special turbos for high altitudes.
    Edit:
    A quick google search will show many aftermarket high altitude turbochargers.
     
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    What happened to your van I thought you just replaced the rear transmission

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