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I'd just like to bring back JFK, who given his intelligence would fairly quickly become a republican and perhaps bring the party back where it should be. These guys are probably, maybe, better than our current FAR left communist/socialist/nazis masquerading under the democrat moniker but still definitely too leftist.
 

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In an effort to find out more specifics about this new party I went to their website - www.fwdtogether.com - which sounds nice, but only provides generalities. Wikipedia at least offers a few tidbits that seem reliable:
Click this link to view the official Forward Party website.

 

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* Co-chairs are Andrew Yang and former NJ Gov Christine Todd Whitman
* The party ideology includes "Human Centered Capitalism" aka Humanistic Capitalism. This means they endorse a "universal basic income" and businesses operating on a "just enough profit" model. Sounds like the govt will decide what is "just enough". This sounds suspiciously like Socialism.
... Yang advocated the universal basic income during his presidential campaign. If the Forward Party embraces that along with the above Humanist educational position they won't get very far with mainstream Americans.
The post-merger Forward Party website makes no mention of any of these.

The present-day Forward party came from the merger of three predecessor entities; one center-right, one centrist, and one center-left. "Forward Together," the link you cited above, was not one of those entities. Forward Together is an unrelated organization.
 
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"This time last year, @Fwd_Party activists didn’t know each other. Now, I’m watching them work together each and every day. They’ve built a team of more than 7,500 activists. They’re brilliant, dedicated and humble. It’s a joy to experience."

The operative word in the above paragraph is activists.
 
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The post-merger Forward Party website makes no mention of any of these.

The present-day Forward party came from the merger of three predecessor entities; one center-right, one centrist, and one center-left. "Forward Together," the link you cited above, was not one of those entities. Forward Together is an unrelated organization.
That's what happens to me when I try to organize these kinds of posts from my phone - a hateful device that has a mind of its own that sometimes goes its own way without the slightest touch.

The link (corrected now) is www.fwdtogether.org - not dot com, and it most definitely does mention Andrew Yang as the head of the Forward Party. It announces the merger of the three organizations and their respective leaders: former independent presidential candidate Evan McMullen (RAM), former congressman David Jolly (SAM) and Andrew Yang (Forward Party). Just scroll down and click on the "Learn More About The Partners" button which takes you to this link:

By scrolling to the bottom of the page we find it clearly stated that credit for the message and webpage are taken and paid for by the Forward Party. What's not clear is what the Forward Party stands for and what it's positions are on critical issues like the Southern border, education, crime and the economy.
 
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danthewolf00

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I'd just like to bring back JFK, who given his intelligence would fairly quickly become a republican and perhaps bring the party back where it should be. These guys are probably, maybe, better than our current FAR left communist/socialist/nazis masquerading under the democrat moniker but still definitely too leftist.
Why do you think he got shot....
 

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By scrolling to the bottom of the page we find it clearly stated that credit for the message and webpage are taken and paid for by the Forward Party. What's not clear is what the Forward Party stands for and what it's positions are on critical issues like the Southern border, education, crime and the economy.
That lack of clarity is intentional. One of the things that sets the Forward Party apart from the two major parties is the freedom it gives its candidates to adopt positions that reflect their constituent's views.

Here's how it's understood and described by a Forward Party activist (activist meaning a local volunteer who is working to build the party in his district):

"From my understanding, the party will have more of a set of principles and values than a specific policy platform. The obvious exceptions are things like election reform (open primaries, [ranked choice voting]). But what I’ve read is FWD will give a lot of leeway to candidates and a candidate in FL may look a lot different than a candidate in Oregon or Nebraska and even within FL a candidate in north and south florida won’t necessarily have a prescription. The focus is on a candidate not a party platform."

This is further described by this (former Republican) Forward Party leader here:


Excerpt: "... we will not prescribe positions or a platform from the national party. Rather, we believe that, within a wide set of boundaries outside of which rest the extremes, candidates at the local, state and federal level will decide where they stand on issues and make their case to the voters."
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I only learned of the Forward Party a couple days ago, so I'm no expert. But it seems to be the case that the party will not have a platform per se. It will have some organizing principles under which people and candidate will come together. In that arrangement, it is entirely possible that a staunch, pro-gun candidate will be Forward endorsed in TX, an anti-gun candidate will be Forward-endorsed in New York, and both will have the party's blessing.

It seems to me the Forward approach is not about imposing litmus tests defined by the national party. It's about candidates actually representing the people whose votes they seek. Depending on the district, those people are the 30-50% of registered voters who belong to no party at all, but do vote.

Out of curiosity, I just checked. In Florida, 5.2 million voters are registered Republicans, 5.0 million are registered Democrats, and 3.9 million are registered NPA, or no party affiliation as they are known here.

It seems to me that if the Forward Party gains critical mass and fields credible candidates, it will have little trouble peeling one million voters from each of the other two parties. That would be about 20%, leaving 80% of died-in-the-wool Democrats and Republicans comfortably at home in their old parties, and old ways.

In this scenario, the count would be 4.2 million registered Republicans, 4.0 million registered Democrats and 5.9 million registered Forward Party or NPA voters sympathetic to the new party (NPAs have already rejected the Dems and Repubs for a reason).
 
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muttly

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IMHO, they're going to pull voters who are more alienated by the Democrat messengers than the party message.
Maybe so. But if it gets to the point where Trump is the nominee and has a good shot at winning the election, the Forward Party will reverse course and coalesce all their resources with one objective: Defeating Donald J. Trump.
 
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Maybe so. But if it gets to the point where Trump is the nominee and has a good shot at winning the election, the Forward Party will reverse course and coalesce all their resources with one objective: Defeating Donald J. Trump.
That could very likely be the case, considering the apparent party leaders are a liberal and two never-Trumpers.
 
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That could very likely be the case, considering the apparent party leaders are a liberal and two never-Trumpers.
Again, it is very early in the Forward Party's development and I'm only beginning to learn what it's about. But, so far at least, it seems unlikely that you'll find a significant number of Trump supporters in the Forward Party member ranks, if you find any at all.
 

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For reference, US registered voters by party affiliation: (Source)

Democrat: 49.3 million
Republican: 36.4 million
Independent/Nonpartisan: 30.8 million

That's how people are actually registered. When Gallup asks, "In politics, as of today, do you consider yourself a Republican, a Democrat or an Independent?" we see: (Source)

Democrat: 27%
Republican: 27%
Independent: 43%
 
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Pilgrim

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For reference, US registered voters by party affiliation: (Source)

Democrat: 49.3 million = 39.6%
Republican: 36.4 million = 29.2%
Independent/Nonpartisan: 30.8 million = 31.2%

That's how people are actually registered. When Gallup asks people about their party affiliation, we see this: (Source)

"In politics, as of today, do you consider yourself a Republican, a Democrat or an Independent?"

Democrat: 27%
Republican: 27%
Independent: 43%
I added the percentages for the real numbers from Ballotpedia for comparison purposes. I guess the takeaway from the Gallup poll is that Democrats are about six times more likely than Republicans to deny their party affiliation (and voting intentions) at this point in time, which inflates the Independent numbers. No surprise there. I couldn't find whether the poll was based on Registered voters or Likely voters. Regardless, the Democrats should prepare to get blown out in November.
 
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danthewolf00

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The Democrat leadership truly think they are going to win in November.....I call it Hillaryism: blaming everyone but themselves when they lose.
Unless the January 6th committee finds some REAL evidence and not a bunch of 3rd person hearsay I believe trump will win if he runs in 2024.
 

ATeam

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I added the percentages for the real numbers from Ballotpedia for comparison purposes. I guess the takeaway from the Gallup poll is that Democrats are about six times more likely than Republicans to deny their party affiliation (and voting intentions) at this point in time, which inflates the Independent numbers. No surprise there. I couldn't find whether the poll was based on Registered voters or Likely voters. Regardless, the Democrats should prepare to get blown out in November.
They have been preparing and know what's coming. Historically, it's more common than not for the party in the White House to lose the House in midterm elections if they control the House.
 
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