Espar Reliablity Pros Or Cons

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    I was under the impression that the Espar units are fairly simple and reliable. Reading the pages of this forum , has made me wonder ?

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    They are very reliable. They contain high heat and moving parts, so they won't last forever without maintenance and repair, though.
     
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    Oh I'd say they are reliable.....like everything they need care....yearly checkups....Cargo vans are more demanding IMO as every CV is insulated to a different degree and the varying cubic footage the unit is having to heat....The weather elements can effect it quite a bit as well....IMO each of us have to find the sweet spot on the thermostat where it works most effectively..I am most pleased with the unit itself....other then the replacement parts are IMO greatly overpriced....
     
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    Webasto. Currently on year 5 and the only thing I've done to it is add a digital thermostat. Unit runs almost constantly from December to March. In my fleet days I had experience with both Espar and Webasto. While the Espars did provide a more consistent temperature when it was warmer out (spring and fall when you're just taking the chill off) they always required at least one yearly repair of some sort. Webasto's would last the 6 year trade cycle we had on the trucks..at that point we would take them out..our Webasto dealer charged us a flat fee of $300 to rebuild it and then it would go back in a new truck. The only thing we ever had to do to them was sometimes change the fuel filter..a 15 minute job and the filters are about 25 bucks IIRC. Cost new is the same as an Espar. I paid 800 CDN for mine and installed it myself.

    Edit: when I say it runs from December to March I mean it is switched on (blower running) and the burner cycles through its modes based on heat demand.
     
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    Thanks for the replies. I sort of wish the truck I drive had an ESPAR or WEBASTO style heater, particularly if the boss keeps threatening , I meant offering me a load to the northwest

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    Micro size parts clog faster so a proper filter is a good thing to have !


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    B1 gas going on 4th winter. Promasters do have the extra port on gas tank for install.
     
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    Cost of B-1 gas ...?
    Where purchased .. ?
    Where installed and Cost ..?

    Thanks

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    Invoice didn't seperate cost and installation. Bought and installed at thermo king millbury,oh. $1500.
    They installed heater and then I built sleeper. I took back and they installed hoses and tested.
     
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    We have had little to no issues with our Espar units. Big thing is to cycle them in the off season to keep the fuel in the lines fresh.


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    My Espar is 16 years old and in the 4th van. Every two years I get it tuned up.Two year ago I had to do $400.00 in repairs. Other than that it has been very reliable.
     
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    Please note a new heater replacement d2 is available at Chicago ThermoKing for $650.

    They also periodically recommend replacing the fuel pump screen part # 13-510 $3.57
    and the Strainer Glow pin 41-6822 $10.14
     
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    I installed mine back in 2005, haven't done anything to it but run it since. I will replace the strainer/glow plug when I transplant it in a new vehicle.

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    not even a blower motor....?
     
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    Nothing. Everything is still original.

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    I probably log more hours then you....seeing I leave it on low 24/7 when at home in the winter
     
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    Deffinitely. I wish I knew how many hours on it, but I don't have a way to check.

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    me neither...have the old thermostat probably the one you have...NOT digital
     
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    Yep, they didn't have the digital ones back then.

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    Just got a quote for $1700 installed for a b1lc from Northern Mobile Electric in Canton, OH.
     
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