Both political parties brought police state to america

chefdennis

Veteran Expediter
I can totally agree with this.......

BOTH POLITICAL PARTIES BROUGHT POLICE STATE TO AMERICA



By Mary Starrett
January 4, 2009
Mary Starrett -- Both Political Parties Brought Police State to America

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The word “fascism” has been used for decades to deride political ideaologies of both the right and left. Fact is, fascism has come to America and we have allowed it to happen.


Back in 1944 economist and author John Flynn pointed out that we have been laying the basecoat of fascism here in the U.S. in the book As We Go Marching.


“But alas, the most terrifying aspect of the whole fascist episode is the dark fact that most of its poisons are generated not by evil men or evil peoples, but by quite ordinary men in search of an answer to the baffling problems that beset every society. Nothing could have been further from the minds of most of them than the final brutish and obscene result. The gangster comes upon the stage only when the scene has been made ready for him by his blundering precursors.”


Flynn wouldn’t be at all surprised to see that what he predicted 65 years ago is happening in our country today. He said “all the elements of facism” include the “organization of the economic society as a planned economy under the supervision of the state.”


Flynn laid it all out saying we faced “ a planned… economy,” “militarism as an economic weapon,” “imperialism” and ultimately “dictatorship.”


I thought of Flynn during the presidential debates when both candidates talked up the necessity for war in foreign countries, for mandating “sustainable” energy, for demands for a government-controlled health care system, for more farm subsidies, for “bailing out” the banking industry, despite the voter’s outcry against it. And I thought of him again when the “bailout” was passed by Congress because Flynn had written:


“Fascism will come at the hands of perfectly authentic Americans…who are convinced that the present economic system is washed up…and who wish to commit this country to the rule of the bureaucratic state; interfering in the affairs of the states and the cities; taking part in the management of industry and finance and agriculture; assuming the role of a great national banker and investor, borrowing billions every year and spending them on all sorts of projects through which a government can paralyze opposition and command public support; marshaling great armies…at crushing costs to support the industry of war….which will become our greatest industry…adding …global planning …under the authority of a centralized government in which the executive will hold…all the powers, with Congress reduced to the role of a debating society.”


Fascism didn’t come to America wearing jack boots and brown shirts. It came respectably-clad in suits and ties and calling itself Republicans and Democrats.


The fascism basecoat was laid with each government intervention in the free market system, each undeclared and unconstitutional war and every single incursion by the state into private enterprises like banking and auto manufacturing. And both the R’s and the D’s were behind it all.


As we watched the basecoat dry we continued to allow the incremental creeping toward fascism by electing those who made no secret of their plans to redistribute wealth, make the state the boss of us and dismantle the free enterprise system.



Both McCain and Obama and elected officials in both parties have consistently supported elements of fascism and they never had to worry they’d lose because of it. It was only a matter of how much fascism Americans wanted each election cycle.


Elected officials know that as members of the controlling elite that masquerades as two separate and opposing factions, they will not be deposed. The vast majority will be easily re-elected despite their opposition to the majority of Americans on such issues as illegal immigration, secure borders, the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and the “Bailout.”



Unless Americans make a determined move to unseat incumbents for these and other assaults against the Constitution, we can expect nothing more than a shallacking by those now controlling our government in both “Big Box” parties.


2009 Mary Starrett - All Rights Reserved
 
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OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
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This is IMO..Just what is going to implode America.

Greed.....period.

Capitalism....a fancy word for greed. 100% capitalism does not work...As much as you guys relish the thought and cherish it's being...it's the downfall of this nation....if left uncontrolled with no checks and balances.

I've heard conflicting statements on here of late.

"The government should stay out of the business world."

"The government didn't enforce the laws or regulations."

Just which way do you want it?

In most crimes an investigator will "follow the money"
 

Tennesseahawk

Veteran Expediter
Actually, it's both. The government puts ITS WILL on business, instead of letting business just happen. At the same time, it refuses to enforce laws in place to keep corruption from happening, and doesn't penalize those who break those laws. The mess that just happened is a prime example.

Another issue that the government does this is gun control. Certain cities and states want to impose restrictions on law abiding gun owners, yet they won't uphold the laws and penalties when criminals break them. It's like they need the criminals to push their agenda for complete gun control.

Power is a tricky thing. Politicians need the fuel from greed to say "See? You need to give US more power, so WE can stop this from happening again!" It's not capitalism that's broken, it's the idiots trying to control it, and turn it into something it's not. Bush's quote is perfect for understanding this: "I’ve abandoned free market principles to save the free market system." He's not saving anything. What the free market needs saving from is HIM and Congress and what they represent.
 

chefdennis

Veteran Expediter
TN Hawk wrote:

Another issue that the government does this is gun control. Certain cities and states want to impose restrictions on law abiding gun owners, yet they won't uphold the laws and penalties when criminals break them. It's like they need the criminals to push their agenda for complete gun control

Gun laws have nothing to do with enforcing them on those who would break them. They are simply put in place to control the law abiding citizens and turn them into criminals...........

GA. has a bill pendig that will require anyine having ammo at the time the bill is passed and signed to turn it all in. Then they will have to buy new "sterilized" and "serialized" ammo........you think the B/G's are going to do this!?!? And how many regular legal gun owners will do it? not many, and all that will do is turn them into criminals...........
 
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OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
I've heard about this serialized ammo before...apparently every state will require it...it is a good idea...

It says the right to bare arms BUT nothing says anything about that it has a right to be loaded....I can see the Gov. controlling the ammo...as a way around the constitution...
 

Tennesseahawk

Veteran Expediter
Here's the thing about serialized ammo... it isn't a reality yet. It's like the government saying, "Interstate commerce will have to be done by teleportation by the year 2015."

It would be nice if the ones dictating would get off their arses and start researching and producing this fantasy land stuff themselves.
 
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