2 threats one day-Obama will be tested Here is North Koreas

DougTravels

Not a Member
Only 1 threat? I read a threatening article from Iran on the US interferring with their election, maybe I have gone crazy but I cannot find it now.

We all need to be hoping Obama does not blink, I believe he will stand tall, I hope I am right.

:NKorea threatens to harm US if attacked
By JAE-SOON CHANG, AP
SEOUL, South Korea — North Korea boasted that it has become a "proud nuclear power" and threatened Monday to harm the U.S. if attacked, as tensions mounted over a possible crackdown on exports of suspected missile parts from the North.

President Barack Obama said the U.S. is ready to cope with "any contingencies" involving North Korea and vowed not to "reward belligerence and provocation."

South Korea's YTN news network reported that a U.S. Navy destroyer was tailing a North Korean ship suspected of carrying missiles and related parts toward Myanmar in what could be the first test of new U.N. sanctions against the North over its recent nuclear test.

The sanctions toughen an earlier arms embargo against North Korea and authorize ship searches in an attempt to thwart its nuclear and ballistic missile programs.

Tensions on the Korean peninsula have spiked since North Korea defiantly conducted its second nuclear explosion on May 25. It later declared it would expand its atomic bomb program and threatened war to protest the U.N. sanctions imposed in response to its nuclear test.

On Monday, the North's main Rodong Sinmun newspaper said it is "nonsense" to say the country threatens the U.S. and claimed it is Washington that threatens the North. The paper also warned that the country is prepared to strike back if attacked.

"As long as our country has become a proud nuclear power, the U.S. should take a correct look at whom it is dealing with," the paper said. "It would be a grave mistake for the U.S. to think it can remain unhurt if it ignites the fuse of war on the Korean peninsula."

North Korea says its nuclear program is a deterrent against the U.S., which it routinely accuses of plotting to topple its communist regime. The U.S., which has 28,500 troops in South Korea, has repeatedly said it has no such intention and has no nuclear weapons there.

Obama said the U.S. is prepared for any North Korean provocation, including the regime's reported threat to test-launch a long-range missile toward Hawaii.

Japanese media have reported that the North Koreans appear to be preparing for a long-range test timed for about July 4. Defense Secretary Robert Gates has ordered additional protections for Hawaii in case a missile is launched over the Pacific Ocean.

"This administration — and our military is fully prepared for any contingencies," Obama said Friday during an interview with CBS News' Harry Smith, to be broadcast Monday on "The Early Show."

"I don't want to speculate on hypotheticals," Obama said. "But I want ... to give assurances to the American people that the t's are crossed and the i's are dotted in terms of what might happen."

The North's cargo ship, Kang Nam, is expected to travel to Myanmar via Singapore, YTN said, citing an unidentified intelligence source in the South. Myanmar's military government, which faces an arms embargo from the United States and the European Union, has reportedly bought weapons from the North.

The ship is reportedly the first North Korean vessel to be tracked under the new U.N. sanctions.

Two U.S. officials said Thursday that the U.S. military had begun tracking the ship, which left a North Korean port Wednesday and was traveling off the coast of China.

One of the officials said it was uncertain what the Kang Nam was carrying, but that it had been involved in weapons proliferation before. Both spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss intelligence.

A senior U.S. military official told The Associated Press on Friday that a Navy ship, the USS John S. McCain, is relatively close to the North Korean vessel but had no orders to intercept it under the U.N. Security Council resolution and had not requested that authority. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the issue.

The Navy ship, a guided missile destroyer, is named after the grandfather and father of former U.S. presidential candidate Sen. John McCain. Both were admirals.

McCain said Sunday that the U.S. should board the Kang Nam even without North Korean permission if hard evidence shows it is carrying missiles or other cargo in violation of U.N. resolutions.

"I think we should board it. It's going to contribute to the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction to rogue nations that pose a direct threat to the United States," he said on CBS' "Face the Nation."
 
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greg334

Veteran Expediter
We all need to be hoping Obama does not blink, I believe he will stand tall, I hope I am right.

What?

You are joking??

Stand tall?

He doesn't make up the world, he isn't the one pulling the strings, he is not our savior.

Do you want a unilateral solution or a proper multilateral one?

If he continues to falter, then you will end up blaming Bush for it as he has been - he inherited the Korean problem from Bush.
 

Scuba

Veteran Expediter
If he continues to falter, then you will end up blaming Bush for it as he has been - he inherited the Korean problem from Bush.[/QUOTE]

Of course they will blame Bush and forget that it was clinton that gave them the money to buy the nuke plant in the first place
 

layoutshooter

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
If he continues to falter, then you will end up blaming Bush for it as he has been - he inherited the Korean problem from Bush.

Of course they will blame Bush and forget that it was clinton that gave them the money to buy the nuke plant in the first place[/QUOTE]


In Korea you can go ALL the way back to Truman. HE DID have the chance to finish this off and did not. He STOPPED us from ending that threat and others. No Congress OR president since as done ANYTHING to stop the threat. NOT acting is the SAME as agreeing with in my book. Barry does not even know what end of a gun barrel a round comes out of. Face it, they ALL need voted out, reguardless of party.
 

DougTravels

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I've heard of "the alcohol talking". I guess the above is an example of the koolaid talking.

We will have to see how it plays out. I am more comfotable with Obama, than the ol Crawford Cowboy.

Like I said this will be a test for him, I am sure we all hope he passes.
 

layoutshooter

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Retired Expediter
We will have to see how it plays out. I am more comfotable with Obama, than the ol Crawford Cowboy.

Like I said this will be a test for him, I am sure we all hope he passes.

You are RIGHT about one thing Doug, WE do ALL hope he passes this test. I have grave doubts, based on my experience, no feelings. So far he has proven VERY weak and shows a lack of basic understanding of potential military situations. He does still have a few good people working for him but to date he has NOT heeded their advice. This is becoming more and more evident as the days pass. It is still possible for him to "get a grip" on this. Let us hope and pray ( only hope in your case) that he does. :eek:
 

greg334

Veteran Expediter
What test?

Korea isn't a test, if it was than we would not have Japan, China and other countries involved. Iran is not a test either, we can't inflict a bit of involvement unless it directly affects us.

These two issues are not unilateral issues, even Bush tried hard to make Korea a multinational issue and succeeded.

If he wanted to be a strong figure on the world stage, he would not have sent Hillary around the world insulting people and he would not have made the Muslim speech in the middle east.

What is a real test is how he is going to past health care reform by us without us noticing and he is doing just that thanks to these distractions.
 

layoutshooter

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Retired Expediter
What test?

Korea isn't a test, if it was than we would not have Japan, China and other countries involved. Iran is not a test either, we can't inflict a bit of involvement unless it directly affects us.

These two issues are not unilateral issues, even Bush tried hard to make Korea a multinational issue and succeeded.

If he wanted to be a strong figure on the world stage, he would not have sent Hillary around the world insulting people and he would not have made the Muslim speech in the middle east.

What is a real test is how he is going to past health care reform by us without us noticing and he is doing just that thanks to these distractions.


It would not have mattered on the health care if these diestractions are there or not. There was NEVER ANY chance of a free and open debate on this subject. The ruling party will not allow it and the media would NEVER show both sides of the issue. Socialist rule at it's finest!! This National Un-Healthy plan was a slam dunk, NO effort to ever even PRETEND that there is a TRUE debate!! We have only seen the begining, just wait, better get used to un-employement rates starting at 5% as the norm. This is also only the first salvo in this, the NEXT health care bill will be draconion.
 
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