The Trump Card...

Turtle

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Imo, Trump is the media's (the Fake News media)main adversary. They're using the Russia narrative to try to get to Trump.
They wanted Hillary to win. Bad. They knew she was going to win. And when she didn't, they were in shock, and they knew something underhanded had to have happened to cause her to lose. That was the only explanation. Russia Russia did it. And not only that, Trump colluded with Russia to do it And they haven't moved off that position yet. It's still the only thing they've got.

Funniest thing is, after two years of investigation into collusion, the only evidence of collusion involves that of the left, with the Deep State, and with foreign powers, including, of course, Russia.
 
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Turtle

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#WalkAway
Go check it out.

For those on the left who are afraid of this president, the only question you need to ask yourself is, do you think Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer are as afraid of the future under this president as they have made you feel?

If the answer is no, then you need to reassess your fears and your loyalties. The leaders on the left are manipulating you with fear, for their own personal political gain.
 

Ragman

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#WalkAway
Go check it out.

For those on the left who are afraid of this president, the only question you need to ask yourself is, do you think Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer are as afraid of the future under this president as they have made you feel?

If the answer is no, then you need to reassess your fears and your loyalties. The leaders on the left are manipulating you with fear, for their own personal political gain.
The problem with this post is the assumption those that oppose Trump are all on left.... Not necessarily the case.
 

Turtle

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#WalkAway
Go check it out.

For those on the left who are afraid of this president, the only question you need to ask yourself is, do you think Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer are as afraid of the future under this president as they have made you feel?

If the answer is no, then you need to reassess your fears and your loyalties. The leaders on the left are manipulating you with fear, for their own personal political gain.
The problem with this post is the assumption those that oppose Trump are all on left.... Not necessarily the case.
The post was explicitly addressed to those on the left who are afraid of this president and the future of the country under him. It was not intended to address anyone, left or right, who opposes Trump for other reasons.
 

Ragman

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#WalkAway
Go check it out.

For those on the left who are afraid of this president, the only question you need to ask yourself is, do you think Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer are as afraid of the future under this president as they have made you feel?

If the answer is no, then you need to reassess your fears and your loyalties. The leaders on the left are manipulating you with fear, for their own personal political gain.
The problem with this post is the assumption those that oppose Trump are all on left.... Not necessarily the case.
The post was explicitly addressed to those on the left who are afraid of this president and the future of the country under him. It was not intended to address anyone, left or right, who opposes Trump for other reasons.
But why address it to only those on the left?
There are many not on the left afraid of this president.
 
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Turtle

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But why address is to only those on the left?
Because suggesting to those on the right or in the middle to #Walkway from the fear and manipulation of the Leff is a little redundant.

There are many not on the left afraid of this president.
No doubt, but those not on the Left are much less likely to have succumbed to the manipulation of the lies and fear mongering of Schumer, Pelosi, Waters, the MSM, et al. Those not on the Left tend to look at actions and policies on which to base their opposition, rather than on irrational "feels" to gin up their own fears. The #WalkAway movement really doesn't apply to those people at all.

People who oppose Trump have to decide for themselves why they oppose him. Is it out of some irrational fear stoked by those in power on the Left, or is it because of policy concerns?
 

Ragman

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But why address is to only those on the left?
Because suggesting to those on the right or in the middle to #Walkway from the fear and manipulation of the Leff is a little redundant.

There are many not on the left afraid of this president.
No doubt, but those not on the Left are much less likely to have succumbed to the manipulation of the lies and fear mongering of Schumer, Pelosi, Waters, the MSM, et al. Those not on the Left tend to look at actions and policies on which to base their opposition, rather than on irrational "feels" to gin up their own fears. The #WalkAway movement really doesn't apply to those people at all.

People who oppose Trump have to decide for themselves why they oppose him. Is it out of some irrational fear stoked by those in power on the Left, or is it because of policy concerns?
I can accept that..
 
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Moot

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The Washington Post ran an OPED piece the other day: "Cut It Out Critics. Trump Said What He Always Says", the other day by Gary Abernathy. I can't get the link to copy here so one needs to google it. In the piece Abernathy explains why Trump says what he says and not what we normally hear from career politicians. Trump is a business person. He says what's on his mind without worrying about offending any voters because I don't think he cares about getting re-elected. I find it refreshing.
 
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Turtle

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Dayum, is pretty bad when a WaPo cartoonist shreds your narrative like that.

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It's funny, because it's true.



Same. download (1).jpeg
 
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ATeam

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I think it's safe to say the constitutionality of the Muller investigation is now well established. Trump has argued otherwise but it's the court opinions that count.

Trump-appointed judge upholds special counsel Muller's authority

Excerpt:

"The appointment does not violate core separation-of-powers principles. Nor has the Special Counsel exceeded his authority under the appointment order by investigating and prosecuting Concord," Friedrich wrote in an opinion published Monday morning. She was one of the first judges Trump placed into a federal court position.
Friedrich cited opinions by three other federal judges -- Amy Berman Jackson, who oversees Paul Manafort's criminal foreign lobbying case; T.S. Ellis, who oversees Manafort's financial fraud case; and DC District Court Chief Judge Beryl Howell -- to back up her decision.

All three judges also denied requests to invalidate Mueller's authority, with Howell writing as recently as late July...

Also significant is "Judge lest emoluments lawsuit against Trump move ahead.

The legal cases against Trump are taking far longer to develop than I thought they would, but developing they are.
 

muttly

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I think it's safe to say the constitutionality of the Muller investigation is now well established. Trump has argued otherwise but it's the court opinions that count.

Trump-appointed judge upholds special counsel Muller's authority

Excerpt:

"The appointment does not violate core separation-of-powers principles. Nor has the Special Counsel exceeded his authority under the appointment order by investigating and prosecuting Concord," Friedrich wrote in an opinion published Monday morning. She was one of the first judges Trump placed into a federal court position.
Friedrich cited opinions by three other federal judges -- Amy Berman Jackson, who oversees Paul Manafort's criminal foreign lobbying case; T.S. Ellis, who oversees Manafort's financial fraud case; and DC District Court Chief Judge Beryl Howell -- to back up her decision.

All three judges also denied requests to invalidate Mueller's authority, with Howell writing as recently as late July...

Also significant is "Judge lest emoluments lawsuit against Trump move ahead.

The legal cases against Trump are taking far longer to develop than I thought they would, but developing they are.
SC can't indict a sitting President. Not that he should be indicted. It's just an exercise in futility.
 

davekc

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I haven't seen enough of anything to indict Trump. They will need considerably more dirt than anything they have shown so far. That is why there is little to no movement.
Only movement up to this point is people he knows that are under microscope to get at him. And yet as of today, still nothing. Running out of time.
 
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ATeam

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SC can't indict a sitting President. Not that he should be indicted. It's just an exercise in futility.

The ability of a special counsel to indict a sitting president is an open question that may be decided or may not be decided by the courts depending on how things play out.

I don't think Mueller intends to indict Trump. I think his investigation will end with a report to congress.
 
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