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I also can't help it if you choose to remain intellectually lazy and intentionally ignorant. Read the Terms and Conditions yourself and show me exactly where Trump Media is required to provide a refund if one is requested.
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Please, the whining posts are a bit much.
From their website:
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You really don't see what is happening, do you? Please take a moment to actually think this through and carefully note language you yourself provided.

Trump Mobile is not required to honor ANY refund request because the offering has not been canceled or discontinued. No phone has yet been delivered but the offering remains open. As long as it does, no refund is required.

At the more practical level, please show me even one credible report of a customer requesting a refund and actually receiving it. Also, please show me credible proof that the golden Trump phone actually exists. No such proof has been provided by anyone that I have found, and I have searched for it. I'm open to being wrong about this. If you can provide such proof, I'll readily admit my error.

FYI, this is an example of what I have found:

"To give you the direct, unvarnished truth based on the factual record right now: No factories have been publicly identified, no workers have been filmed, and not a single actual device has been received, unboxed, or used by a customer.

"When it comes to how the public knows about the assembly locations, the answer is simple: we only know because that is what Trump Mobile corporate representatives explicitly told reporters. It is a corporate claim, not an independently verified fact."
(Gemini)

The reason I continue to assert that the Trump phone does not even exist is because it does not exist. No customer on earth has ever received or used this phone. And as far as I can tell, no Trump Mobile customer has ever received a refund. Some may have asked. I don't know about that. But there are exactly ZERO reports of any such refunds being given.


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muttly

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You really don't see what is happening, do you? Please take a moment to actually think this through and carefully note language you yourself provided.

Trump Mobile is not required to honor ANY refund request because the offering has not been canceled or discontinued. No phone has yet been delivered but the offering remains open. As long as it does, no refund is required.

At the more practical level, please show me even one credible report of a customer requesting a refund and actually receiving it. Also, please show me credible proof that the golden Trump phone actually exists. No such proof has been provided by anyone that I have found, and I have searched for it. I'm open to being wrong about this. If you can provide such proof, I'll readily admit my error.

FYI, this is an example of what I have found:

"To give you the direct, unvarnished truth based on the factual record right now: No factories have been publicly identified, no workers have been filmed, and not a single actual device has been received, unboxed, or used by a customer.

"When it comes to how the public knows about the assembly locations, the answer is simple: we only know because that is what Trump Mobile corporate representatives explicitly told reporters. It is a corporate claim, not an independently verified fact."
(Gemini)

The reason I continue to assert that the Trump phone does not even exist is because it does not exist. No customer on earth has ever received or used this phone. And as far as I can tell, no Trump Mobile customer has ever received a refund. Some may have asked. I don't know about that. But there are exactly ZERO reports of any such refunds being given.


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Prove they’re not going to honor the refund. You’ve made the charge not me.smh
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Prove they’re not going to honor the refund. You’ve made the charge not me.smh
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You already have your proof. No golden Trump Mobile phone has been shown to exist in the real world. No person has been found who has verified they requested and received a refund. Your Snopes inquiry is a an interesting twist in the wording but it does not disprove my assertion.

I'm asking for something real, like can you prove that truck exists? And you could say, yes, that truck exists. There it sits, parked before your very eyes for you and others to see, and to agree that, yes indeed, the truck is real.

Is it too much to ask to actually see a real Trump Mobile phone physically existing in the real world? Or even a factory where they actually started production once upon a time?

Is it too much to ask to hear a credible testimonial from even one live human being who actually requested and received a refund?

I ask for these things and you quibble back with Grok and Snopes. Those are not real phones and real people.

With the media scrutiny, and nearly 600,000 customers, certainly at least one person can be found who would be willing to say they received a refund and show the receipts, yes? I would think that to maintain their good name (cough), the Trumps would find someone to whom they gave a refund and have that person share their testimonial. Yes?
 
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You already have your proof. No golden Trump Mobile phone has been shown to exist in the real world. No person has been found who has verified they requested and received a refund. Your Snopes inquiry is a an interesting twist in the wording but it does not disprove my assertion.

I'm asking for something real, like can you prove that truck exists? And you could say, yes, that truck exists. There it sits, parked before your very eyes for you and others to see, and to agree that, yes indeed, the truck is real.

Is it too much to ask to actually see a real Trump Mobile phone physically existing in the real world?
As noted before, there was a delay. Relatively common with tech startups. You apparently can’t produce any evidence of fraud that they are scamming on the deposits. Didn’t you go through the same denial about Truth Social not coming to fruition? I think you did. I think you did .
 
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As noted before, there was a delay. Relatively common with tech startups. You apparently can’t produce any evidence of fraud that they are scamming on the deposits. Didn’t you go through the same denial about Truth Social not coming to fruition? I think you did. I think you did .
We're at an impasse and I have no more to say. The phone does not exist in the real world. No real person who made a deposit has received a refund for non-delivery. The shipments that were promised just last week, have not been verified by anyone.

On Wednesday, May 13, 2026, Trump Media CEO Pat O'Brien said on X (formerly Twitter), The T1 Phone has arrived!! Those who pre-ordered the T1 Phone will be receiving an update email. Phones start shipping this week!!!"

That was five days ago. No one I know of, and I have been looking, has reported receipt of any such email or phone. Let's give it five more days. I'm pretty sure what is true today will be true then as well.
 
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ATeam feverishly scanning AI search engines for any random Reddit or X post that someone claiming they immediately didn’t get their deposit back is comic gold.
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ATeam feverishly scanning AI search engines for any random Reddit or X post that someone claiming they immediately didn’t get their deposit back is comic gold.
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I feverishly scan nothing. I'm a professional with professional tools. My AI agent does this work while I do other work or relax.
 
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It Seems Trump Has Lost the Will to Fight

News today: President Donald Trump announced today that a major military attack against Iran, originally scheduled for Tuesday, has been officially postponed.

Here we go again. Not more talks, but more talk of talks. In the meantime the Straight of Hormuz remains under full Iranian control and Iran is tightening its grip. We're about 6 US inflation reports away from the November midterms, and nothing Trump does is moving gas prices lower.

The days-long war has become weeks-long. And by November, it will be months-long.

Keep up the good work, Mr. Trump. The Democrats are counting on you.
 
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We're at an impasse and I have no more to say. The phone does not exist in the real world. No real person who made a deposit has received a refund for non-delivery. The shipments that were promised just last week, have not been verified by anyone.

On Wednesday, May 13, 2026, Trump Media CEO Pat O'Brien said on X (formerly Twitter), The T1 Phone has arrived!! Those who pre-ordered the T1 Phone will be receiving an update email. Phones start shipping this week!!!"

That was five days ago. No one I know of, and I have been looking, has reported receipt of any such email or phone. Let's give it five more days. I'm pretty sure what is true today will be true then as well.
No need for 5 days. Reports are the phone is 100 percent real.
 

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No need for 5 days. Reports are the phone is 100 percent real.
I was on the road last week on a business trip, and I returned with new tasks to complete. Other than brief glimpses at the headlines, I've given zero time and attention to politics. I'll reply when I get caught up,.
 
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