Ted Cruz: 'I Stand With Kim Davis' Ut oh, its looking different now. Your gonna have to move to the back of the prison lady.......
Are we havng a Rosa Parks moment, sort of?
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She’s in jail of her own accord, she can get out any time she wants simply by following the law. She just found out the biggest lesson you can ever learn, judges hate having their decisions ignored. Even Lindsay Graham says you need to follow rule of law, and he’s never been right about anything before.
Whoever made that sign and took a picture of it is utterly ignorant of Islamic religious beliefs. There is nothing in Islamic law or in the teachings of the Qur'an that in any way prohibits women from driving. Most Muslim countries routinely issue drivers licenses to women, in fact.The only country on the planet that will not issue a drivers license to women is Saudi Arabia, and it's not because of Islam, but because Saudi Arabia rightly, correctly and properly recognizes the natural inferiority of women to men, that women are inherently bad drivers, and female drivers undermine social values (no, I'm not making any of that up). Even at that, many women drive illegally without a license and are rarely ticketed for it. They drive the kids to school, can take someone to the hospital, even drive a car to work without a license and without getting a ticket. It is mainly right in Riyadh where the police enforce the law on drivers licenses. The further away from Riyadh you are the more women drivers you will find.
In any case, fighting for the right to discriminate is not a Rosa Parks moment.
Rosa Parks wasn't doing anything evil.
Rosa Parks wasn't doing anything evil.
Interesting how, quite suddenly, people who believe marriage means the union of a man and a woman are considered to be doing evil when they act on that long-held and traditional belief.
It's not sudden.
Relatively speaking, nice shift of the goalpost. Let's talk about modern history, where reasonably intelligent people realize that expanding freedoms to unpopular groups doesn't diminish their own freedoms.
What's being rallied against in this case is privilege, previously untouched. It's time to get over it.
Aw, go fly a.......never mind.I think turtle is just arguing for sport in this case. He often seems to enjoy arguing either side of the discussion.
I will too, depending on the circumstances.I think turtle is just arguing for sport in this case. He often seems to enjoy arguing either side of the discussion.
I spent 4 great years as an undergraduate student in Morehead, KY. Typical of small towns scattered throughout Central Appalachia. The Rowan County Clerk, Kim Davis, is sitting in jail rather than be forced to act contrary to her religious values. The backlash has begun, Mrs. Davis' plight is serving as a rallying point protesting the homosexual overreach.
Kim Davis is a Democrat, by the way, and quite popular in her home county. Her re-election prospects look pretty good. All the national media and gay crusaders have done is enshrine Kim Davis as a folk hero for taking what is perceived as a principled stand. Lots of state and local politicians will lose their bids to get reelected for failing to support Kim Davis. The national media cannot save local politicians from the wrath of indignant Kentucky voters, the overwhelming majority of them being Christians of the fundamental sort. Kim Davis could probably make a successful gubernatorial run someday. She has broad support from both major parties.
Kim Davis is a Democrat, by the way, and quite popular in her home county. Her re-election prospects look pretty good. All the national media and gay crusaders have done is enshrine Kim Davis as a folk hero for taking what is perceived as a principled stand. Lots of state and local politicians will lose their bids to get reelected for failing to support Kim Davis. The national media cannot save local politicians from the wrath of indignant Kentucky voters, the overwhelming majority of them being Christians of the fundamental sort. Kim Davis could probably make a successful gubernatorial run someday. She has broad support from both major parties.
Define.
Homosexual overreach could be defined as an appalling act of animal husbandry. The meaning of words and institutions well understood for thousands of years across all cultures now stand on the shifting sands. If two men living together can be called marriage, no relationship within the nuclear family is safe from redefinition. We might as well say a tree is a fish.
I'm personally glad that marriage has been redefined. My wife is worth dozens of heads of cattle, a thousand sheep, ten thousand assorted fowl. Luckily for me, marriage has evolved, and a dowry involving livestock is no longer required. I just had to like her cat.
In the Old Testament, wives were basically property, polygamy was allowed, and, at times, a woman who had been raped had to marry her attacker. I'm glad marriage has been redefined here too.
To allow two people of the same sex to marry has absolutely no affect on any of our lives. And since the particulars of marriage have changed over time, it would make sense that it continues to do so.
The meaning of words has been apt to change ever since people began using words. The word 'gay' didn't mean homosexual when it referred to "The Gay 90's"...
The change in accepting homosexuals as regular people, no better or worse than the rest of us, is happening a lot faster than most major upheavals, but there's a perfectly logical reason. Gay people just stopped pretending to be something they're not, and John & Jane Citizen discovered that not only do they actually know some of 'those people', they are co workers, friends, neighbors, even family. The ease with which we can dismiss the 'other' as wrong is hard to maintain when it turns out to be someone you know and like, or even love.
The people still maintaining the belief that it's 'wrong' are nearly always those who cite the Bible as the source of and authority for their beliefs, but the Bible is not the supreme authority in US law. That's what Kim Davis is learning, and eventually, so will the rest of those who think their beliefs can supersede the law.
Separating religion from government was one of the most brilliant [and probably the hardest] accomplishments of the Founding Fathers.
The change in accepting homosexuals as regular people, no better or worse than the rest of us, is happening a lot faster than most major upheavals, but there's a perfectly logical reason. Gay people just stopped pretending to be something they're not, and John & Jane Citizen discovered that not only do they actually know some of 'those people', they are co workers, friends, neighbors, even family. The ease with which we can dismiss the 'other' as wrong is hard to maintain when it turns out to be someone you know and like, or even love.
The people still maintaining the belief that it's 'wrong' are nearly always those who cite the Bible as the source of and authority for their beliefs, but the Bible is not the supreme authority in US law. That's what Kim Davis is learning, and eventually, so will the rest of those who think their beliefs can supersede the law.
Separating religion from government was one of the most brilliant [and probably the hardest] accomplishments of the Founding Fathers.
Kim Davis is in jail because she refused to obey the order of a judge and do her job or resign. She didn't have to act contrary to her religious values, she could [and should] have given up the job she could no longer do.
Like it says on the #FreeKimDavis Twitter, Kim Davis isn't Rosa Parks - she's the bus driver who refuses to get off the bus until they stop letting black people get on.
That Twitter hashtag is hilarious, BTW.
