ExpeditersOnline.com
Try Hours
Bolt Express
Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 33
Like Tree1Likes

Thread: Looking to raise van roof, rear doors

  1. #1
    Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Posts
    30

    Looking to raise van roof, rear doors

    Does anyone know where and if I can get my Ford van roof and rear doors raised? Are there shops out there who do it affordably? Not finding any good options on Google... Just for handicapped and medical operations.
    I've been getting an unusual amount of cancelled loads lately from frieght being too high, usually because shippers/dispatchers don't get the right info on dimensions of frieght.Is it even worth the trouble and cost, as opposed to replacing my Ford with a used Sprinter when the time comes?
    ExFedEx likes this.

  2. Premium Transportation Semi Tractor Trailer Drivers Sign On Bonus / Owner Operators Tremendous Revenue!!
    Premium Transportation Logistics
    Looking for COMPANY and O/O OTR Class A drivers. 5 available tractors will be filled in the month of October! $1000.00 Sign on Bonus Great Pay, Home weekends + Benefits. Very Nice equipment. No layovers!! Plenty of miles and freight!! Call 800-661-3166 for more details or submit an app online at: www.drive4premium.com
     

  3. 1,268756,33314,8
  4. #2
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2004
    Location
    .
    Posts
    977

    Re: Looking to raise van roof, rear doors

    If you can locate a shop that does van roofs for med/handicap use they should be able to fix you up. The truck doesn't know or care what it is hauling. I put on several raised roofs on vans several years ago for handicap and ambulances. Some had regular doors and some had raised doors. The raised doors were done by a local body shop.
    Drive Carefully
    theoldprof
    Retired Panther Van O/O
    Retired Assistant Professor
    Retired Toolmaker

  5. 2,268760,33314,8
  6. #3
    Senior Member blizzard's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Location
    Oregon
    Posts
    1,930

    Talking Re: Looking to raise van roof, rear doors

    Quote Originally Posted by twinpopusa View Post
    Does anyone know where and if I can get my Ford van roof and rear doors raised? Are there shops out there who do it affordably? Not finding any good options on Google... Just for handicapped and medical operations.
    I've been getting an unusual amount of cancelled loads lately from frieght being too high, usually because shippers/dispatchers don't get the right info on dimensions of frieght.Is it even worth the trouble and cost, as opposed to replacing my Ford with a used Sprinter when the time comes?

    What company do you work for? Also, are the loads you have been losing very lucrative "longer runs?" I'm not sure you really need to convert your van into a sprinter-like van just because you missed a few loads here and there. I have talked with many sprinter owners who rarely ever use the extra space. Once again, that can also depend on what company you are leased on with. But to have your van raised is possible. It will cost you around five thousand dollars to have this done. I know this because there is an older gentleman who runs for Panther that had this done to his ford van. You might have run into him over at the Flying J in Indianapolis. Yet another option to consider is to have current vans box cut from the frame and then replace it with an aerocell. This should cost you the same amount of money give or take a few hundred dollars. One of my friends was going to have this done to his van before he got out of expediting last year. I think there are dealers advertised on this site who can do this sort of work for you. Good luck!!
    Last edited by blizzard; 10-19-2008 at 11:09 PM.

  7. 3,268762,33314,8
  8. #4
    Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Posts
    30

    Re: Looking to raise van roof, rear doors

    Thanks for response, blizzard.. I am with Panther, and was thinking more about just raising the roof for more overhead space, and I figured, if I would raise it, why not the doors too. You make a good point about the loads gained vs. the price. Wow, 5 grand.. I'll just leave things be with my Ford and wait a few more years, then I will look at a Sprinter or whatever. Panther told me last week that they won't put a cube van of any kind on now, even if GVW is under 10k. They say "Just raise the roof!" I just would like a little more space. Wow, I didn't know it would cost me 5k to raise the roof on an 04 Ford van. If I want more room and stay under 10k, maybe Panther isn't the way..

  9. 4,268767,33314,8
  10. #5
    Senior Member dhalltoyo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Location
    We Worldwide
    Posts
    1,518

    Re: Looking to raise van roof, rear doors

    It would seem to me that a simple verification of the load dimensions and weight would be more cost effective.

    Personally, I don't move unless dispatch can verify the actual dimensions and weight of the freight.

    The standard answer of, "They just called for a cargo van," is simply a poor excuse for not doing one's job.

    I trained customer service associates and it requires little, or no, effort to garner the correct information.

    In the event that you arrive at the shipper and the dimensions given to you are not correct...then you should be paid for a dry run.

    Hopefully, dispatch managers will grow weary of paying for those dry runs and begin to properly train their employees; training that would require dispatchers to demand shippers provide the complete load information.
    A true friend is one who knows all about us and still loves us.

  11. 5,268777,33314,8
  12. #6
    Senior Member blizzard's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Location
    Oregon
    Posts
    1,930

    Talking Re: Looking to raise van roof, rear doors

    Quote Originally Posted by dhalltoyo View Post
    It would seem to me that a simple verification of the load dimensions and weight would be more cost effective.

    Personally, I don't move unless dispatch can verify the actual dimensions and weight of the freight.

    The standard answer of, "They just called for a cargo van," is simply a poor excuse for not doing one's job.

    I trained customer service associates and it requires little, or no, effort to garner the correct information.

    In the event that you arrive at the shipper and the dimensions given to you are not correct...then you should be paid for a dry run.

    Hopefully, dispatch managers will grow weary of paying for those dry runs and begin to properly train their employees; training that would require dispatchers to demand shippers provide the complete load information.
    I once had E-1 send me to pick up a spinter load because it would fit into my van. But since the "customer" paid for a sprinter van, he decided to re-stack two skids into one because it was easier for him to do it this way. Needless to say he was very angry when I showed up and had to re-stack the load. Dispatch also got an angry phone call and they had to reduce the rate on the load. Not my fault!! Some of these Companies try and get extra money out of the shippers and that causes shippers to go with other carriers.
    Last edited by blizzard; 10-20-2008 at 12:28 AM.

  13. 6,268780,33314,8
  14. #7
    Senior Member blizzard's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Location
    Oregon
    Posts
    1,930

    Talking Re: Looking to raise van roof, rear doors

    Quote Originally Posted by twinpopusa View Post
    Thanks for response, blizzard.. I am with Panther, and was thinking more about just raising the roof for more overhead space, and I figured, if I would raise it, why not the doors too. You make a good point about the loads gained vs. the price. Wow, 5 grand.. I'll just leave things be with my Ford and wait a few more years, then I will look at a Sprinter or whatever. Panther told me last week that they won't put a cube van of any kind on now, even if GVW is under 10k. They say "Just raise the roof!" I just would like a little more space. Wow, I didn't know it would cost me 5k to raise the roof on an 04 Ford van. If I want more room and stay under 10k, maybe Panther isn't the way..
    I ran a lot of two skid freight with Panther when I was with them. You do not really need anything bigger than what you already have to be successful with Panther. Panther has a lot of single and double standard sized skid freight to keep you busy.

  15. 7,268781,33314,8
  16. #8
    18K Member OntarioVanMan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2003
    Posts
    33,739

    Re: Looking to raise van roof, rear doors

    David..you know as we all do shippers aren't always forth coming with exact measurements...how many times you get there expecting 48x48 and they are 45x40 or 48x40, turn em sideways and it's only 10 feet.
    Drive less...Make more...$$$...

    It's not how much you run,
    It's how much you run for... $$$

    I never considered a difference of opinion in politics, in religion, in philosophy, as cause for withdrawing from a friend.
    Thomas Jefferson


  17. 8,268782,33314,8
  18. #9
    Moderator Emeritus Jack_Berry's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location
    some parking lot somewhere
    Posts
    3,570

    Re: Looking to raise van roof, rear doors

    suds43 was in tulsa friday and was joined by 2 bolt sprinters.. saturday both sprinters went back out for loads requiring the taller doors. today he is still in tulsa.


    earlier last month i was talking to bolt about the difference in sprinter req. frt as opposed to e250 frt. i ws told that the sprints at that time were not moving sprint tall frt and taking cargo van rates. it comes down to being ready when the frt is being called in.
    Last edited by Jack_Berry; 10-20-2008 at 09:39 AM.



    jack berry & gracie berry
    2008 ford e-350 hcv
    ooida member 889111

    "the cure for rejection is-being able to see yourself as God sees you. It means announcing, "I am what God says I am, I have what God says I have, therefore, I can do what God says I can do". So even if you didn;t get off to a good start, you can still have a great finish"-Bob Gass

    http://www.expeditersonline.com/foru...r-threads.html

    http://www.expeditersonline.com/foru...n-threads.html

  19. 9,268810,33314,8
  20. #10
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2004
    Location
    .
    Posts
    977

    Re: Looking to raise van roof, rear doors

    twinpop. read this and send me a PM. RV Furniture Seats Van SUV Truck Seats Van Tops Surplus - 89k - Cached - Similar pages A couple guys and I installed several tops to make wheel chair and ambulances. Not easy, but not rocket science.
    Drive Carefully
    theoldprof
    Retired Panther Van O/O
    Retired Assistant Professor
    Retired Toolmaker

  21. 10,268893,33314,8
  22. #11
    Senior Moderator davekc's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2001
    Location
    FL & TN, USA.
    Posts
    13,857

    Re: Looking to raise van roof, rear doors

    May want to PM Terry O' Connell. I believe on one of his vans he had a Turtle top. Maybe installed in St. Louis?
    fleet owner
    29 years
    Panther & Load One


  23. 11,268897,33314,8
  24. #12
    Senior Member RLENT's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location
    Purgatory
    Posts
    7,475

    Re: Looking to raise van roof, rear doors

    Quote Originally Posted by dhalltoyo View Post
    It would seem to me that a simple verification of the load dimensions and weight would be more cost effective.
    Well ..... duh ........

    Personally, I don't move unless dispatch can verify the actual dimensions and weight of the freight.
    Uh-huh .... yeah ..... I can see how that might work out real good:

    Customer: "Is that truck rolling to the shipper for pick-up ?"

    Load Planning/Customer Service/Dispatch: " .... uh .... well .... no ..... not exactly ..... the driver said I should call you back .... and have you call the shipper .... and get the shipper to go measure/weigh/verify/count the cargo ..... and then call us back so the driver can verify that it will actually fit on his vehicle .... he doesn't like to roll before we have completed this verification process ..... so .... could you do that ..... please ?"

    Customer: " ...... HUH ? ..... what ..... ? ....... nevermind .... cancel it ...... I'll call someone else ...... GOODBYE ......"

    The standard answer of, "They just called for a cargo van," is simply a poor excuse for not doing one's job.
    And sometimes it is merely providing the customer what they asked for ......

    You have heard the expression "The customer is always right ?" haven't you ?

    This actually does often apply - even when they aren't - and are wrong. Perhaps a hard concept to grasp for some ....

    I trained customer service associates and it requires little, or no, effort to garner the correct information.
    David ...... I would think that having been involved with expedite for at least some amount of time .... that you would have at least a clue ...... your statement above is glib at best (meaning you can talk the talk, but can ya really walk the walk ?)

    While it is true that it requires little or no effort on the part of CS or LP or Dispatch to ASK FOR the information when they book the load ... actually obtaining that info is not always a simple matter ..... unless you perhaps reside in some magical world where all the T's are crossed, and all the I's are dotted ......

    For instance, the shipper may not be the customer who is booking the load ...... the customer who is booking could be a different company, in a different city or state ...... or even in a different country ......

    And the person who actually has the info - or can get it - may not be easily accessible ..... or even accessible at all at that particular moment ......

    The person who is booking the load may not even know who to contact to verify the dims info .....

    (I'm on a 984 mile run right now that had no delivery address when it was dispatched .... I know, I know .... I probably should have told Dispatch: "I'm not rolling ... until you have all the all information ..." ..... yeah ..... that's the ticket ..... not ....)

    It's an imperfect world in which we live ....

    In the event that you arrive at the shipper and the dimensions given to you are not correct...then you should be paid for a dry run.
    Again .... WELL, DUH ......

    Hopefully, dispatch managers will grow weary of paying for those dry runs and begin to properly train their employees;
    Got news for ya ..... if the carrier is worth their salt, it ain't the Dispatch managers or the carrier that is paying ...... it's the customer - because Dispatch/CS/Load Planning has attempted to find out the info, and if the customer isn't providing it, and are requesting a specific vehicle and it's wrong, then the customer is the one that is paying ..... at least that's the way it ought to work (and usually does)

    training that would require dispatchers to demand shippers provide the complete load information.
    Yeah ..... DEMAND IT OF THEM ...... sounds like a sure fire recipe to build ongoing customer relationships and keeping them happy ..... kinda like a drill sgt. barking orders ..... I'm sure it will bring 'em in in droves to book loads ......

    Lemme tell ya about "Carl" (actual true story with a real individual) ..... Carl runs the shipping department of a high-end graphics and signage company ...... somewhere in the midwest. He's a pretty crotchty old man and he don't take no crap from no one - probably very little from his boss even - and certainly not from some dip-wad dispatcher or CS agent.

    Ships some very expensive stuff that usually never is "rush" but is "time-critical" (meaning that there usually isn't a big hurry to get it delivered, although often there is a delivery appointment involved) .... he can't afford to ship it LTL due to the potential for damage.

    When Carl calls in and requests a truck it will be for a specific type of vehicle - and that's the vehicle you send - 'cause if ya don't, Carl ain't gonna be callin' anymore. And, if you're smart, the most you might do is just repeat the request back to him - just to verify that you got what he said ..... forget about quizzing him about the dims ......

    If Carl screws up and orders the wrong size vehicle, well then, that's Carl's error - and he picks up the tab. The likelihood of ever DEMANDING anything from Carl is exactly zero/zilch/nada ..... he'd eat ya for breakfast. And you could kiss his business goodbye.

    Nice enough guy ..... but you really don't want to argue with him - he wants what he wants, when it wants it.

    'Nuff said.
    Last edited by RLENT; 10-21-2008 at 03:31 AM.

  25. 12,268922,33314,8
  26. #13
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Posts
    1,341

    Re: Looking to raise van roof, rear doors

    Vision Manufacturing of Georgia makes Ford and GM vans "tall" however, I don't know if they will do an existing van, I've only ever seen them do new ones. They do a nice job but it is a bit pricey.

  27. 13,268942,33314,8
  28. #14
    Senior Member gotta go's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Location
    Vonore, TN.
    Posts
    743

    Re: Looking to raise van roof, rear doors

    I used to drive for a company out of Elkhart, IN, that delivered van tops. There are several manufacturers in that area. Millenium, Bremen, Global, and Vulcan are just a few. There are also surplus yards there.
    Jeanie
    OOIDA #66857
    Lifetime Member

  29. 14,268988,33314,8
  30. #15
    18K Member OntarioVanMan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2003
    Posts
    33,739

    Re: Looking to raise van roof, rear doors

    Rlent..THANK YOU for your view of the REAL world.
    Drive less...Make more...$$$...

    It's not how much you run,
    It's how much you run for... $$$

    I never considered a difference of opinion in politics, in religion, in philosophy, as cause for withdrawing from a friend.
    Thomas Jefferson


  31. 15,269020,33314,8
Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. How about a Raise?
    By OntarioVanMan in forum Express 1 (XPO)
    Replies: 8
    Last Post: 09-18-2008, 09:36 AM
  2. Barn doors vs. Roll-up doors
    By Moot in forum General Expediter Forum
    Replies: 14
    Last Post: 12-10-2007, 06:41 PM
  3. Honda to Raise Production
    By OntarioVanMan in forum The Soapbox
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 03-09-2007, 01:35 PM
  4. Let's all NOT raise hogs!!!!
    By Aviator in forum The Loading Dock
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 12-20-2003, 11:29 PM

Tags for this Thread

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
ExpeditersOnline.Com Copyright © 1999-2011 On Time Media, LLC. All Rights Reserved.
ExpeditersOnline.com © is a registered trademark of On Time Media, LLC

Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2