[pjjjjj]

Originally Posted by LDB

Murphy doesn't care about the full warranties and maintenance programs, he just sees an opportunity where the emergency fund isn't there as backup.

That Murphy's a B*tch, ain't he tho??!!

[kg2149]

Update;

Got 107 miles and the light came on and I lost power. While on a load. Easy come, easy go. Back at the dealer in Memphis. Can't get me in until Monday. Go figure.

[pjjjjj]

Spend the weekend looking into your lemon laws.. I remember reading something about.. so many visits to the repairshop for a certain thing.. they can't fix it.. it's deemed a lemon..
As well as counting to 10 repeatedly, and taking deep breaths of course

[kg2149]

PJ,

Thanks for the advice, but I have already done that. The "lemon law" (the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act) does not apply to leased vehicles. The lessor is expected to give you a different vehicle, I suspect. I am pursuing that avenue, but so far I'm not having any luck there, either. Need an attorney I guess, but that requires money that I don't have. Hence the requirement for a "rainy day fund". Never dreamed I'd have so many problems out of a check engine light!

[x06col]

I guess hind sight is 20/20 for you now, and you wish you had not accepted delivery of that truck in your haste to "get rolling", with what you have described as obvious speching mistakes. Many will listen to the sales people about delivery schedule, and "claim" to be truck experts, when, they are in fact, sales people. A person should be working until the day you get into your new ride. Don't quit your income producer until the equipment is ready, and, ready right. That way you are less inclined to make hasty mistakes like we are reading about here.

Because they are not willing to fix your minor problem, maybe the solution would be, the next time the light comes on, jes keep runn'in her, an let em fix a bigger problem, and get it right. Prolly won't cost as much down time.

[Broompilot]

Greg Posted does not understand why someone would buy new with so many used.

Well I fit into that Catagory on both sides.

When one is new comming into the business not knowing anything about Trucks or what to not or to look out for THAN I FEEL ITS A WISE MOVE if one can afford the down payment and purchase it. (NOT LEASE) but this guy leased as I read it.

Once you know trucks and understand them, ECM, Dyno, Mechanics approval and yours, a great used truck is a better financial plan or way to go. (my opinion your welcome to dissagree).

The problems this guy has expierenced calls for an ATTORNEY. Loss of income due to downtime alone should net him about $10K, DOCUMENT and photographs everything and hire an ATTORNEY FAST REALLY FAST. I would also include the Leasing co. and the company your running with in your suite, since they came up with the idea, both of those co.s will put pressure on the dealer to settle.

Now remember, this is now a used truck so as I began my RANT, someone is gona also buy this piece of junk, and I am sure the ECM and Dyno will pass inspections after the repairs are made, so there is no way to guarantee a GREAT truck just a way to eliminate at best a LEMON.

My other advice, never take a truck not designed or built to the specifications to the job its gona do. I built my new truck from paper and others advice from this site. A great truck for Expediting YES IT IS AND WAS. Had no problem selling it either for 100% of asking price. Problems as I went along yep, getting thru the break in period was a headache but nothing like your expierence.

The current truck I am is way below budget on repairs, although they happen and the stuff that is breaking or has broken I expected. Overall my value of new vs used, I will buy used. Thanks to people on this site, Kevin Rutherfrod, a Dyno Test, an ECM report and most of all a Good Mechanic to agree its a good buy.

NEWBEES; PLESE DO NOT EVER, EVER, DO A LEASE PURCHASE with the company your gona lease to: FED EX offered me this deal as well, it was sooo tempting with so little down. Here is the kicker, I was not at all happy as a SOLO with FEDX, if I wanted to change the agreement SAID NO. That alone would have cost me way way more than the any savings to hire an attorney to figure out how to Exit out of the Contract.

Buy purchasing without FEDX assistance I WAS FREE TO RUN "MY" business as I felt necessary. My success with my Decision netted me hundreds of thousands of dollars more with that single decision vs being locked in where I could not make a living as I saw it. I asked this question straight up to FEDX "When can I expect things to improve" The answer "SILENCE" on the other end of the phone. THAT WAS MY ANSWER, C H A N G E and as fast as I could, one not need a better answer than silence.

[pjjjjj]

Originally Posted by x06col

Because they are not willing to fix your minor problem, maybe the solution would be, the next time the light comes on, jes keep runn'in her, an let em fix a bigger problem, and get it right. Prolly won't cost as much down time.

Now THAT sounds like a plan!

[kg2149]

First off, as some of you may think because of my join date, I am not a newbie. I've been expediting for 3 years. I know exactly how the truck should have been built. Secondly, I am also a master mechanic. I am in no way naive about spec'ing, operating, or fixing a truck. To top it off, I was a warehouse and distribution supervisor for several years and I know this business from the other side of it as well. I was setting up expedites with NLM and loading Panther II and Roberts trucks back in the day.

The truck was ordered spec'd properly for the job at hand. I had no choice to run it until the corrections were made because the first payment was due the next week. Yeah, yeah, if I had the money banked up I wouldn't have had to. Some of us have been ripped off by certain fleet owners so bad that paying the bills is impossible, let alone saving up $10k. My last check with an owner was $75 for 1800 miles (40%???). I had to get my own truck.

My carrier doesn't dictate to me who, what, where, when, or why. At least I don't have that problem. As for an attorney, that would require money that I don't have. My problem. I only posted this story out of boredom.

[x06col]

Originally Posted by kg2149

First off, as some of you may think because of my join date, I am not a newbie. I've been expediting for 3 years. I know exactly how the truck should have been built. Secondly, I am also a master mechanic. I am in no way naive about spec'ing, operating, or fixing a truck. To top it off, I was a warehouse and distribution supervisor for several years and I know this business from the other side of it as well. I was setting up expedites with NLM and loading Panther II and Roberts trucks back in the day.

The truck was ordered spec'd properly for the job at hand. I had no choice to run it until the corrections were made because the first payment was due the next week. Yeah, yeah, if I had the money banked up I wouldn't have had to. Some of us have been ripped off by certain fleet owners so bad that paying the bills is impossible, let alone saving up $10k. My last check with an owner was $75 for 1800 miles (40%???). I had to get my own truck.

My carrier doesn't dictate to me who, what, where, when, or why. At least I don't have that problem. As for an attorney, that would require money that I don't have. My problem. I only posted this story out of boredom.

You kinda read like a nuther fella that types on here, and has all the answers. My question is then, why did you accept delivery in the first place if you understood it was not right, and with your wrenching skills, why don't you fix it? I understand parts are expensive, but downtime ain't free either. It's more fun screwing with the legalitys, when you have some coins jingling in your pocket.

[kg2149]

Running it as is has been the norm for 18k of the 29k on the odometer. Do you want to be behind me when it drops to 35mph on the smallest of hills? It tops out at 50-55mph downhill with it floored! Sounds like a ticket or accident waiting to happen. No, it needs to get fixed correctly for once. More and more people are getting called and e-mailed from several people but no one responds. Gotta love this warranty and excellent customer service from Hino!

[LDB]

You might want to call an attorney or two. With lost time, lost revenue etc. your claim would be fairly substantial. You might find one to take it on contingency with no up front money. It costs you a little time looking for one but that's all.

[Broompilot]

Gotta give Col the credit:

He is right new Poster on all counts. He did not even leave one open spot for me to jab him (which we both love doing to one another).

Your in Business, sorry for your pain but being broke and in business will only cost you loss revenue, income, or pain. In your case I see it as all THREE maybee more.

This Site is to inform others, you have done a great job of warning others. We want to help not attack, but over and over again it has been written and the WARNING signs and Stories have been posted to help others from makaing the same mistakes.

I truley wish you the best and this is not meant to be an attack, your last post read a few heated sentances in there and after all when in business no one has anyone to blame but oneself for not having back up plans as you wrote. I did when my back was against the wall.

[kg2149]

I had to run it to pay my bills and because the first payment was due the very next week. I was already down for a month waiting on the title and couldn't afford to wait the next month it took them to correct it. Once the truck was delivered to E-1 for me to pick up, the payment clock was ticking. I didn't jump out of the truck I was in and hastily get in this one. I gave notice to my owner when I ordered the truck, and got out of it 5 days before this one was to be delivered. Besides, the mistakes they made building the truck is irrelevant to my situation now.

I would be happy to fix it myself, but that voids the warranty and I'm fresh out of Hino diagnostic software to communicate with the ECM.

How is it that I have all the answers? Because I can spell, punctuate, and give a reply when someone asks me why this or why that?

LDB,

Thanks for some sound advice and lack of sarcasm and criticism. One of the few people I can expect that from. Seems like too many people want to start an argument and insinuate stupidity or naivety.

[x06col]

Nah. Was not insinuating anything. The only message here wuz- you are the paying customer, don't allow others to force you costly errors. Details were not watched it seems. Above all, YOU dictate the delivery, not someone else, when things are right and good to go.

[Broompilot]

KG I went back and read these Posts over again.

I am glad to say I did not see what you were trying to say by knocking everyone on here but Leo. Did he post the Lawyer thing before mine or did I do it first? I do not remember reading his when I posted.

Leos comment on a Lawyer taking it on Assignment: Right Leo just what every Lawyer went to school for is to take small claims on Contigence. Just so new poster you do not waist your time THAT AINT EVER GONA HAPPEN unless your Uncle is a Lawyer or you got pictures of a Lawyer with a Mistress in a Hotel room. Its not big enough $ for one to not charge you for those are for the Big $.

Sarcasim, I did not see it. A smart Arse I am but in no way am gona knock a guy down further than he already is. Facts are facts and I still agree with the Col. you put your back against the wall and accepted a truck with bad specs not checking everything from top to bottom assuming they gave you a great truck and stuck you with the problems. Its that simple, they took advantage of you and the Ts were not crossed and Is not dotted and its now your business problem to solve. Like I said I wish you Luck.