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    Re: Federal appeals court upholds God references in Pledge of Allegiance, currency

    Turtle, I know that you do alot of research on the topics you post on, but i also realize that you also carry alot of information around in your head......great story....and the fact that that symbol was part of the native american indiana culture is fascinating in itself.....
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    Re: Federal appeals court upholds God references in Pledge of Allegiance, currency

    Thanks. Most of the research I do is just to confirm my memory, and to get the details right. I'm still not positive that 1914 was the year of Hope with the Native American Nazi symbol. I haven't researched it that closely. It may have been 5 or 6 years earlier, but it was around that time. Each picture in the Corn Palace has a metal placard on it with the year. That particular one above also has that little note in the lower left corner explaining the use of that symbol at that time.

    Symbols are powerful things, but as the beginning of the movie "The Davinci Code" illustrates, many of them have been recycled over the centuries. Like, the white robes and the pointed hats of the KKK are unintended, but very close copies of the old Spanish Roman Catholic garments worn during the "Narezeno" tradition, in an act of penance. The origins of the costumes in Spain are many centuries old, but an American visiting certain parts of Spain during Holy Week would be freakin' out as to why Spain has such a large contingent of the Ku Klux Klan.

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    People are freaking out, rightly or wrongly. Ironic, isn't it, that to the American Indians, perhaps the most American of us all, the swastika means Hope. The people who create those posters poking fun at Obama, his Hope slogan, and the swastika likely have no idea how ironic they themselves are.

    Of course, the Obamacare symbol only barely resembles the Nazi symbol, but for some that's close enough for jazz. The Obamacare symbol clearly comes from the symbol for the medical arts, the Caduceus. The truly ironic thing is that those who are fixated on the similarity of Obamacare and the Nazi's are missing the thing they should really be pίѕѕed off about, and that's the arrogance at which the Obamacare logo is trying to manipulate our minds. The subliminal message isn't one of Nazism, but one of magical reverence of all-things-Obama.

    With the United States (mysteriously without Alaska and Hawaii) at their feet, the people of the United States stand there, almost in awe and wonder at this bright and colorful hovering orb. The people are blurred, but the familiar Obama logo is in the center of the orb, in focus, clear as day, except the familiar rising sun on the logo has been replaced with the rising Caduceus. It's a combination of magic and savior descending from above. The logo is a brand, pounded into the American psyche. The DNC Web page has the Obama logo, and not the logo of the Democratic party. The online store at the DNC is all-things Obama, with the logo and the Obama catchphrases aplenty, and nary a donkey to be found. They have mugs and t-shirts and coats and hats, all with the logo, which as far as I'm concerned should be a sign that means "Give me a wedgie," 'cause that's what wearers of such mindless symbolism deserve.






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    Re: Federal appeals court upholds God references in Pledge of Allegiance, currency

    alrighty then........

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