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    Chavez Ready for War.....

    anyone think that if he feels threatened that he wouldn't attack here on our soil?? and with the Iranians working with him, it just gets that much closer to realization.....

    Chavez Tells Army to Prepare for Possible War With Colombia

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    CARACAS, Venezuela — President Hugo Chavez ordered Venezuela's military on Sunday to prepare for a possible armed conflict with Colombia, saying the country's soldiers should be ready if the United States attempts to provoke a war between the South American neighbors.

    "The best way to avoid war is preparing for it," Chavez told military officers standing at attention during his weekly television and radio program.

    Repeating an often-used military adage, he added, "If you want peace, prepare for war."

    Chavez told his supporters that President Barack Obama holds sway over Colombia's government, and he cautioned the U.S. leader against using his allies in Bogota to mount a military offensive against Venezuela.

    "Don't make a mistake, Mr. Obama, by ordering an attack against Venezuela by way of Colombia," he said.

    The former paratroop commander voiced concern over an agreement between Bogota and Washington giving the American military personnel more access to Colombia's military bases through a 10-year lease agreement.

    Chavez also reiterated what he said is his fear that U.S. soldiers could use the bases as launching pads for an attack on his country to seize control of its immense oil reserves.

    Colombian and U.S. officials say the agreement is necessary to more effectively help Colombia's security forces fight drug traffickers and leftist rebels — not mount military strikes against Colombia's neighbors.

    On Thursday, Venezuela sent 15,000 soldiers to the border with Colombia, saying the military buildup was necessary to increase security along the border, combat drug trafficking and root out paramilitary groups.

    The deployment follows a series of shootings and slayings that have heightened tensions between the two countries.
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    Re: Chavez Ready for War.....

    Obama will back Chavez. Blood brothers stick together.

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    Re: Chavez Ready for War.....

    He does have a point.....
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    Who has a point? You can't really mean Chavez? The man who ignores elections? The man that allows the new Soviets to put a base in his country? Obama? The man who ignores or supports this communist expansion?

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    Re: Chavez Ready for War.....

    Quote Originally Posted by layoutshooter View Post
    Who has a point? You can't really mean Chavez? The man who ignores elections? The man that allows the new Soviets to put a base in his country? Obama? The man who ignores or supports this communist expansion?
    Huh? How can OBama support him and then have our troops plan to overthrow him? Now that doesn't make sense....besides we've been interfering/eddling down there since who knows how long....black ops by the CIA...special advisers and all that...
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    Re: Chavez Ready for War.....

    he bought weapons from iran and fighter jets from russia, russia is doing joint military "exercises" there....don't think for a moment he wouldn't hit the southwest and west coast given enough reason.....considering the help he has....i for one think his strings are being pulled behind that curtain by those who supplied him....can he invade here and win? nope, but he sure can create a world wide "incident!"...
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    Re: Chavez Ready for War.....

    Quote Originally Posted by chefdennis View Post
    he bought weapons from iran and fighter jets from russia, russia is doing joint military "exercises" there....don't think for a moment he wouldn't hit the southwest and west coast given enough reason.....considering the help he has....i for one think his strings are being pulled behind that curtain by those who supplied him....can he invade here and win? nope, but he sure can create a world wide "incident!"...
    Oh come on now...the US has been playing down there for eons to toss him out....We are just as bad as the Russians when it comes to stuff like that...we are not totally innocent of stirring the pot...
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    lol , no one said we were innocent, but at the current time he is holding hands with iran and russia......not us.....
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    Re: Chavez Ready for War.....

    Quote Originally Posted by chefdennis View Post
    lol , no one said we were innocent, but at the current time he is holding hands with iran and russia......not us.....
    No we have Britain to hold hands with....all this Colombia stuff and we've done almost nothing about the drug lords...it was a guise to get to Chavez and have bases down there...
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    Quote Originally Posted by layoutshooter View Post
    Who has a point? You can't really mean Chavez? The man who ignores elections? The man that allows the new Soviets to put a base in his country? Obama? The man who ignores or supports this communist expansion?
    Hold your horses there bucko..If you read the first few lines about what Chavez says, "the best way to prevent war is to prepare for it." That sounds to me like number 1, he doesn't necessarily want a war, and number 2, he is taking a page out of your book Mr. Shooter...Peace through superior firepower...He said as much. On top of all that, You claim to be no fan of the main stream media..Where are you getting your information?If you were to really look into what is going on in both Columbia and Venezuela, you might have an entirely different opinion...
    Chavez is not the tyrant he has been made out to be in the American media...
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    thats right, but with the help of iran and russia he now out guns Columbia..and even though we now are "working' on having bases there, barry will diddle around for months before he even considers making a move in hugo...look at how he is dealing with the real afghan war...what makes you think he would move faster to attack another socialist government....
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    How many advisors in Columbia now...1,000's? how many engineers? The bases are there....
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    Quote Originally Posted by letzrockexpress View Post
    Hold your horses there bucko..If you read the first few lines about what Chavez says, "the best way to prevent war is to prepare for it." That sounds to me like number 1, he doesn't necessarily want a war, and number 2, he is taking a page out of your book Mr. Shooter...Peace through superior firepower...He said as much. On top of all that, You claim to be no fan of the main stream media..Where are you getting your information?If you were to really look into what is going on in both Columbia and Venezuela, you might have an entirely different opinion...
    Chavez is not the tyrant he has been made out to be in the American media...
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    Let's see, eons? When did Chavez IGNORE the election that voted him out? Eons? Or was it just two years ago? Leave it to the Rocket to defend a fellow commie!!! LOL!!! What else could we expect? Obama PRETEND to attack a fellow commie? NAW, Obama is HONEST!! Just as his favorite commie buddy, William!! Life is as it is. Commies protecting commies. Here, there and everywhere!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by layoutshooter View Post
    Let's see, eons? When did Chavez IGNORE the election that voted him out? Eons? Or was it just two years ago? Leave it to the Rocket to defend a fellow commie!!! LOL!!! What else could we expect? Obama PRETEND to attack a fellow commie? NAW, Obama is HONEST!! Just as his favorite commie buddy, William!! Life is as it is. Commies protecting commies. Here, there and everywhere!!
    Details,details, always with details...*LOL*
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