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    Healthcare reform bill passed

    Healthcare reform bill passed

    no link yet but if you were watching the vote live on c-span, you just seen that the healthcare reform bill passed

    YEA: 220
    NAY: 215

    1 Republicrap voted "yea"....

    this is discussing...the elected reps turned their backs on the well known wishes of the people and sided with barry and nancy and proceeded to take our country firther down the drain in yet another unconstitutional act that will force those that have to support those that don't....unbelieveable...

    i can tell you that those bluedogs and that one repub can kiss their seats goodbye when their time is up.....

    here is the link:

    http://www.reuters.com/article/newsO...59M4PB20091108
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    Re: Healthcare reform bill passed

    what is the since in working hard to get head anymore, the government just ruled that they will simply take it from you and gove it to those that don't feel the need to work and be responcible for themselves....jst might be time to go "Galt".....
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    Re: Healthcare reform bill passed

    here is the lone Repub or Rino that voted for this piece of garbage:

    Joseph Cao - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Congressman Anh "Joseph" Cao
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    Re: Healthcare reform bill passed

    You can bet that these pos will do the same thing on "amnesty" for the illegals asap.....
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    "Idealism is fine, but as it approaches reality, the costs become prohibitive."

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    Re: Healthcare reform bill passed

    I was too preoccupied with the Fort Hood massacre events to even notice or care about the health care reform bill. I mean like people like died or were like killed in Texas. How totally selfish to be concerned with some bill about health care when there are dead people on the news.

    Major Nidal Malik Hasan your timing is impeccable.




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    Re: Healthcare reform bill passed

    The Major came through for the Mullah in Chief alright. Wonder what he's got in mind just prior to the Senate vote?
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    Re: Healthcare reform bill passed

    [QUOTE=LDB;336820]The Major came through for the Mullah in Chief alright. Wonder what he's got in mind just prior to the Senate vote?[/QUOTE
    You hit it right THERE!! Yep OHHHBUMMMMER is surely behind this attack!! Diverte then CONQUER!! I want an investigation to ties between the MAJOR? and that bum IN THE white house!!!!!!!!

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    Re: Healthcare reform bill passed

    [QUOTE=Str8Shooter;336829]
    Quote Originally Posted by LDB View Post
    The Major came through for the Mullah in Chief alright. Wonder what he's got in mind just prior to the Senate vote?[/QUOTE
    You hit it right THERE!! Yep OHHHBUMMMMER is surely behind this attack!! Diverte then CONQUER!! I want an investigation to ties between the MAJOR? and that bum IN THE white house!!!!!!!!
    They aren't Gonna Investigate Obumma for That! They Can't even Investigate that P.O.S. For a Valid Birth Certificate Let alone Something More Important Like That!! All I Can Hope for is that 2012 Comes Faster and We, The People can Get Rid of His Sorry A**, But in the Mean time We Can Start in 2010 and Get Rid of ALL of the Incumbents!! As Far as I am Concerned, Marcy Kaptur Should be Looking Into UnEmployment Benefits Because I'm Going to Try and Get her Sorry A** Out of There!!

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    Re: Healthcare reform bill passed

    Yesterday was one of the "darkest" days in this Nation's history. The threat that this socialist movement presents is staggering. Oh you fools who are willing to give up your very FREEDOM for a handful of empty promises. Your grand children will be slaves to the state.

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    Re: Healthcare reform bill passed

    taken from the bill passed by the house, yes the next step in to harrys house, and we had better work to stop this thing in its tracks:

    again this is taken from the bill word for word, and this is want barry and nancy just set the american people up for, notice that all control in this is by the Secretary / GOVERNMENT:

    Latest on late-night ram-through of healthcare bill

    END OF LIFE CARE AND IN-FACILITY CARE


    Assisted Suicide (Pages 129-131) (Section 240) While page 129,
    lines 21-26 state, “(b) Construction – Nothing in this section shall be construed – (1) to require an individual to complete and advance directive or a physician’s order for life sustaining treatment or other end of life planning document”, this section DOES require insurance companies to provide information related to "end-of-life planning" to individuals seeking enrollment in insurance offered on the health insurance exchange. Additionally, there is concern that because key terminology is not provided and because broader protective language adopted earlier in the Energy and Commerce Committee version no longer exists in this version of legislation, that awareness of current law in the states of Oregon and Washington regarding assisted suicide may
    become cause for information purposes for patients.

    *Government Panel for Senior Care Decisions (Pages 649-661): The Secretary has the right to waive requirements of the Social Security Act Titles XI & XVIII. These providers will put together patient decisions aids and share in seniors’ decisions regarding their health care. Seniors will attend counseling provided by said panel.
    Compensation will be granted to providers who generate less cost for care with regards to Parts A and B of Medicare.

    Government Regulation of Staffing in Nursing Facilities (Pages
    822-826): In a specific motion to alter state authority of nursing
    facilities and to provide the Secretary and consumer advocacy groups with overreaching authority, this section of the bill calls for an amendment to the Social Security Act "(C) Submission of Staffing Information Based on Payroll Data in a Uniform Format." The Secretary of Health and Human Services shall require a skilled nursing facility to electronically submit to the Secretary direct care staffing
    information including agency and contract staff, based on payroll and other verifiable and auditable data in a uniform format as established by the Secretary in consultation with among others, consumer advocacy groups.

    Government Authority in Determining Medical Home Models (Pages
    680-690): Secretary is provided wide latitude to fund and create both independent and community-based medical home models in order to reward physicians and others to coordinate treatment for chronically ill patients in underserved (rural) areas. Patient need not designate a doctor as their caregiver.

    Regulation of Services (Page 383) Lines 11-16 allot for using
    appropriate indicators for non-therapy ancillary services
    classification, which may include age, physical and mental status, ability to perform activities of daily living, etc.
    The concern is over the method of deciding care delivery, placing key decision-making elements in the hands of politicians and other non-medical staff as opposed to the hands of patients’ doctors and families.

    Regulation on Patient Stay (Page 385) Establishes payment based on total costs during stay in a skilled nursing facility as opposed to the number of days in such stay.

    “CLASS” Program for Assisted Living – National Voluntary Insurance Program

    SEC. 3204 . Enrollment and Disenrollment Requirements
    Automatic Enrollment (Page 1575) Line 3 – Individuals are automatically enrolled by their employer if they meet the following description in subsection (c) (Page 156- unable to perform 2-3 daily living activities, pose a threat due to cognitive impairment, or have a functional limitation “as determined under regulations prescribed by the Secretary”.
    Opt-Out Option (Page 1576) – Individuals may waive enrollment “in such form and manger as the Secretary shall prescribe”.

    Inability to Disenroll (Page 1579) Line 16 –Individuals may only be permitted to disenroll during an annual disenrollment period
    established by the Secretary.


    Life Independence Account (Page 1583) Line 20 – Account established by Secretary on behalf of each eligible beneficiary for nonmedical services and supports. (Page 1584) Line 9 – “Nothing in the preceding sentence shall prevent an eligible beneficiary from using cash benefits from the (LIA) for obtaining assistance with decision-making concerning
    medical care, including the right to accept or refuse medical or
    surgical treatment and the right to formulate advance
    directives….living will”.

    Access to Cash Benefits (Page 1589) Lines 15-19 – Secretary will allow authorized persons to receive the beneficiary’s cash benefits if the individual is considered an “institutionalized beneficiary under clause
    (i)”.
    SEC. 3207. “CLASS Indpendence Advisory Council – Council established to advise the Secretary.
    Nothing like a little bit of government control....
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    Re: Healthcare reform bill passed

    I've got mixed feelings about Cao. Even tho he's a Republican, he voted how his constituents wanted (New Orleans). Then again, they voted in a Republican, and should know we all hate blacks, and will do what it takes to keep them down...
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    Re: Healthcare reform bill passed

    From New Orleans? That explains it. You must question the thinking ability of anyone that chooses to live ON the coast and BELOW sea level!!! That is rather basic. If you can't master the basics how do you expect them to think at higher levels?

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    Re: Healthcare reform bill passed

    If he's from N.O., screw him and his constituents.
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