Teach the Children and let then Lead the Way!?!?

**chefdennis** · 11-04-2009, 03:44 PM

I believe another socialist government went after the kids as away of getting to the parents....and the barry supporters say this is not a organized effort!?!? Go to the link to view these videos and read the words.....

Big Hollywood Blog Archive ELEMENTARY EPIDEMIC: 11 Uncovered Videos Show School Children Performing Praises to Obama

ELEMENTARY EPIDEMIC: 11 Uncovered Videos Show School Children Performing Praises to Obama

by John Nolte

Big Hollywood has already posted a couple disturbing videos of young school children singing/speaking praises to President Obama, but when eleven more dropped in our email box it came as quite a shock. What seemed like an aberration now appears to be a troubling pattern.

Maybe “epidemic” is a better word.

Each one of the videos below is creepier than the last because the further down you go, the younger the children — brace yourself for kindergartners – except for the last and most disturbing video, which you have to see to believe.

**Turtle** · 11-04-2009, 06:39 PM

It's an ancient technique used by nearly everybody on the planet since the beginning of time. Used by schools, religions, the KKK and McDonald's. Whether or not it's brainwashing depends solely on whether or not you agree with what is being taught.

**Pilgrim** · 11-04-2009, 10:36 PM

Yes, this indoctrination technique has always been around but its objective is not commonplace in the American school system. IMHO it's entirely inappropriate for public school teachers to use this type of indoctrination to virtually deify an individual elected to political office - Barack Hussein Obama. It's one thing to salute or pay tribute to the presidency - it's quite another to sing praises to him as if he were our "Dear Leader" or perhaps - dare I say it - our Fuehrer.

I don't recall this type of Hitleresque activity happening for the benefit of a political leader in the public schools in my entire lifetime. Can anyone imagine the apoplectic (and justifyable) outrage that would have come from the media if this type of brainwashing had been conducted in our schools for the benefit and praise of Truman, Nixon, LBJ, Reagan or either Bush?? Fill in the name of any other president for that matter, it makes no difference. This type of activity would have ordinarily resulted in principals, teachers, and perhaps school boards being tarred and feathered. The parents of school children everywhere should be vigilant for this type of garbage and make it known they won't stand for it.

**greg334** · 11-04-2009, 11:47 PM

Originally Posted by Pilgrim

The parents of school children everywhere should be vigilant for this type of garbage and make it known they won't stand for it.

Indoctrination is easy when you have willing parents.

Actually the parents today are themselves indoctrinated and present the biggest obstacle to real changes we need in this country to education. Most of them are lazy with the mindset that the government is right and we need to allow the government to properly educate the children. Little do they realize that the education that their children get today is substandard compared to what their parents and grandparents had, and even if their grandparents left school at an early age, they still had a better education than their children today have.

As Turtle said "Whether or not it's brainwashing depends solely on whether or not you agree with what is being taught."

The other side of the coin is the psychology of ads we have had since the early 50's, reeves and Bernbach are two that are still studied today. Using some of these techniques, short sound bits, flashy quick ads and so on - all used in propaganda today.

**chefdennis** · 11-05-2009, 12:16 AM

and this has been done in the US public schools for which previous US presidents??

**Pilgrim** · 11-05-2009, 12:51 AM

Originally Posted by greg334

Indoctrination is easy when you have willing parents.

Actually the parents today are themselves indoctrinated and present the biggest obstacle to real changes we need in this country to education. Most of them are lazy with the mindset that the government is right and we need to allow the government to properly educate the children.

Somewhat true - as you've said, "MOST of them are lazy..." but not ALL. There is still a sizable percentage of them that are NOT willing and lazy. It is this group that must stand up to these teachers and school boards when they find this type of inappropriate activity going on in the public schools. How ironic that a small vocal minority was able to remove God and prayer from the public schools, but nobody says anything about worship of a president. It all comes back to the consequences that happen when good men do nothing.

**greg334** · 11-05-2009, 01:13 AM

Pilgrim,
If it was a sizable percentage, then there would have been a serious movement to limit the reach of the teacher's unions and to struggle for real control at the local levels, neither of which I see at all. School boards are elected, not appointed and they are limited to what they can do by the mere fact that many of the parents on the boards propagate the same attitude as the teachers/administrators in many different ways because of the same form of peer pressure that the children are exposed to are used with the adults - some call it the country club attitude.

Sure there are pockets here and there that are fighting but I am thinking those percentages are single digits, nothing more than 3 or 4%. If it was a sizable percentage of the voting block of any area like 20%, then using the same techniques as "community organizers" use (sorry it fits), they could in effect make a lot of the changes needed to shift it to their advantage.

Originally Posted by chefdennis

and this has been done in the US public schools for which previous US presidents??

Carter, there was a very concerted effort to have the children take his message of energy reform and conservation to the parents so to force them into "change through guilt" for energy savings. Some schools, like the one I attended went all out and shoved it down our throats.

**chefdennis** · 11-05-2009, 08:06 AM

Using school kids to guilt parents to adapt a presidents policies is wrong also..but this is more then that..this indoctrinating young school children to worship this self appointed messiah...at this point this isn't about trying to get policy put in place, this is starting the control mechanism of the young minds so that they can be used from here on out..for whatever the messiah feels is the need...much like the brown shirts....

**greg334** · 11-05-2009, 10:30 AM

You know I can't write an honest post about this, it will step on too many people and be construed as off the wall.

But here is something I can right.

I have been to many places in the world, and saw a lot of amazing things but the most amazing thing has been living in a country where people enslave themselves through two different avenues, guilt and self-pity.

No where else can we have such a diverse but divided group of peoples as we have here, one half is driven by guilt, and the other is driven by self-pity. The outcome is enslavement, like people blindly following Obama, it is akin to Hilter and the German's blindly following him - he gave them what they wanted, he told them what they wanted to hear and he did things to make them feel whole again but in this case Obama gave both sides a way to make themselves feel better by enabling the guilty to feel good that they voted for him to right a "wrong" and for the people on the other side of the fence he gave them a "voice" and justification of their self-pity that they created in the last 38 years.

You can call it indocrination, you can call it a bunch of other things but what ever you call it, it comes down to the fact we are repeating history's timeline of another country in the not so distant past.

**chefdennis** · 11-05-2009, 10:37 AM

everywell put Greg...."sheeple"....they are just allowing themselves to be "herded" to compile....

**greg334** · 11-05-2009, 11:04 AM

Originally Posted by greg334

But here is something I can right.

You know sometimes it doesn't pay to have spell check on.

**Turtle** · 11-05-2009, 11:52 AM

From KKK Kids...

...to Choir Boy Kids...

...to Future Fat Kids....

...to ObamaKids...

The techniques used work well.

Teach your children well,
Their father's hеll did slowly go by,
And feed them on your dreams
The one they picked, the one you'll know by.

**Turtle** · 11-05-2009, 11:53 AM

What the heck. One more for good measure....

**Pilgrim** · 11-05-2009, 01:15 PM

Originally Posted by greg334

Carter, there was a very concerted effort to have the children take his message of energy reform and conservation to the parents so to force them into "change through guilt" for energy savings. Some schools, like the one I attended went all out and shoved it down our throats.

True, but that indoctrination was for the policy itself - not the worship of the person that was president. There were no chants of "Jimmy Carter, Jimmy Carter, MMM, MMM, MMM".

Sure there are pockets here and there that are fighting but I am thinking those percentages are single digits, nothing more than 3 or 4%. If it was a sizable percentage of the voting block of any area like 20%, then using the same techniques as "community organizers" use (sorry it fits), they could in effect make a lot of the changes needed to shift it to their advantage.

I'll bet these percentages will vary depending on geographical location. There are states and counties that are more conservative (think TN, OK, WI) and their populations would no doubt show no toleration for this activity, assuming it would even happen there in the first place. Of course, most of this stuff is happening in areas where there is a high black population and they are celebrating their first half-black president. This introduces the racial element into the whole discussion, and is probably subject matter for a separate thread.

**greg334** · 11-05-2009, 02:35 PM

Originally Posted by Pilgrim

True, but that indoctrination was for the policy itself - not the worship of the person that was president. There were no chants of "Jimmy Carter, Jimmy Carter, MMM, MMM, MMM".

Actually in our screwed up school's case, it was about the man, we were told he was the model to follow, the example of what a man should be, religion and all that. In 1980 when the dems slammed him hard during the election, it was a rather interesting issue to watch because of lack of any divide among students and teachers alike all who to support him and a lot of apathy towards the system opposed to the man. in '77 the strange thing of it went as far as mimicking Carter with some of the younger male teachers wearing sweaters, cutting their hair with a "carter" cut, shaving their beards and so on to put us into the sprit of Carter with the posters and other propganda. I still have the picture handed out in school of Carter, the only president's picture that I ever got from school.