 |
10-20-2009, 09:24 PM
|
#1 (permalink)
|
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Toledo, Ohio
Posts: 3,739
|
barrys Enemies List???
LOL, this is going to have people laughing at barry again, the same as when he went after Rush....i am tellin you this guy will attack anyone or anything that doesn't agree with him or showes him in a not so good light....
It is as if barry is building a "Enemies List!!"
Gibbs vs. Beck, Hannity
W.H. singles out two Fox shows
By CAROL E. LEE
POLITICO 44: Gibbs vs. Beck, Hannity
Quote:
White House press secretary Robert Gibbs singled out specific shows on the Fox News network for criticism ...
... Tuesday morning, continuing a public feud between the White House and the cable network that gained new momentum over the weekend.
Meeting with reporters in his office for an off-camera question-and-answer session, Gibbs parried questions about the White House's harsh criticism of the cable news network, leveled on several Sunday shows by officials including White House chief of staff Rahm Emanuel and senior adviser David Axelrod.
Asked if it was fair for the White House to label Fox an illegitimate news organization, Gibbs replied: "We render opinion based on some of their coverage and the fairness of their coverage."
When a reporter pressed further, asking Gibbs to explain more specifically how Fox differed from ABC, MSNBC or Univision, the president's spokesman pointed to two shows in particular as sources of concern.
"You and I should watch sometime around 9 tonight or 5 this afternoon," Gibbs said, alluding to the 5 p.m. show hosted by Glenn Beck and the 9 p.m. program anchored by Sean Hannity.
It's not the first time the White House has directed fire at Beck, a colorful conservative commentator who has spearheaded attacks on White House officials including Anita Dunn, the communications director, and Van Jones, the green jobs czar who resigned over Labor Day weekend.
Last Friday, White House deputy press secretary Bill Burton dismissed Beck's criticism of Dunn, who Beck lambasted for quoting Chinese Communist leader Mao Zedong in a graduation speech.
"I caught some of the Glenn Beck show yesterday, but I don't think anybody takes it — takes his attacks very seriously," Burton said.
|
__________________
"On every question of construction (of the Constitution), carry ourselves back to the time when the Constitution was adopted, recollect the spirit manifested in the debates, and instead of trying what meaning may be squeezed out of the text, or invented against it, conform to the probable one in which it was passed." Thomas Jefferson
Bolt Unit B441
White GMC Cargo Van
OOIDA Member, #934277
|
|
|
10-21-2009, 12:57 PM
|
#2 (permalink)
|
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 148
|
Re: barrys Enemies List???
|
|
|
10-21-2009, 01:07 PM
|
#3 (permalink)
|
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Toledo, Ohio
Posts: 3,739
|
Re: barrys Enemies List???
It is going to bite them in the butt...i think it was axelrod that said to cnn that "he hoped that the other news networks didn't go the line of fox..."that was nothing but a threat...what bhe was saying is that "you others had better toe the line r we will attack you too....."
Oh and Fox's ratings are way up, both of Glens and Hannitys shows have had increases in ratings...so MORE people are hearing what they have to say...its going to bite barry again....
edited at 4:05 pm by chefdennis: opps it wasn't axelrod, it was rahm "deadfish" emamuel that made the theat...i guess it carrys more weight from a real ex israeli soldier and chicago thug....
__________________
"On every question of construction (of the Constitution), carry ourselves back to the time when the Constitution was adopted, recollect the spirit manifested in the debates, and instead of trying what meaning may be squeezed out of the text, or invented against it, conform to the probable one in which it was passed." Thomas Jefferson
Bolt Unit B441
White GMC Cargo Van
OOIDA Member, #934277
Last edited by chefdennis; 10-21-2009 at 05:08 PM.
|
|
|
10-21-2009, 01:09 PM
|
#4 (permalink)
|
|
Moderator
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Monroe, MI.
Posts: 8,446
|
Re: barrys Enemies List???
I would think twice about biting Barry's butt. You might get rabies!! He is one sick puppy!!
__________________
Duty Honor Integrity Peace Through Superior Firepower
Security Through Strength
It is the Soldier, not the Poet Who has given us the Freedom of Speech
It is the Soldier, not the Campus Organizer That has given us the Freedom to Demonstrate
It is the Soldier, who salutes the flag, who serves beneath the flag, and who's coffin is drapped by the flag, who allows the protester to burn the flag.
by: Fr. Denis O'Brien, US Marine Corps Chaplin
True Freedom is found only in Self-Reliance
Layoutshooter
|
|
|
10-21-2009, 01:15 PM
|
#5 (permalink)
|
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Toledo, Ohio
Posts: 3,739
|
Re: barrys Enemies List???
barry has committed to the generals request for 40,000 more troops, except they are going to be deployed to fight FOX NEWS.....
Watch the Leno video within this link:
White House v. Fox News: Carey, Gardiner, Leno - mediabistro.com: TVNewser
__________________
"On every question of construction (of the Constitution), carry ourselves back to the time when the Constitution was adopted, recollect the spirit manifested in the debates, and instead of trying what meaning may be squeezed out of the text, or invented against it, conform to the probable one in which it was passed." Thomas Jefferson
Bolt Unit B441
White GMC Cargo Van
OOIDA Member, #934277
|
|
|
10-21-2009, 01:20 PM
|
#6 (permalink)
|
|
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Redford, MI
Posts: 10,656
|
Re: barrys Enemies List???
Lamar Alexander warned the WH not to repeat Nixon's mistakes.
__________________
Greg
1999 Freightliner FL70
Professional International Traveler
Exclusive Member of the 10,000 Post Club
EO's only MEGA POSTER
An immigrant from Poland living in Ohio, living a hardscrabble life with his wife was asked by a stranger on July 4th "why did you come here if you are so poor, wouldn't life be better in Poland?"
His answer was "I would rather live poor all my life than live my life without freedoms" - Theodore Konowski - 1852
|
|
|
10-21-2009, 02:41 PM
|
#7 (permalink)
|
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Toledo, Ohio
Posts: 3,739
|
Re: barrys Enemies List???
This is right out of Saul Alinskys "Rules for radicals...But its going to cost barry, big time...
__________________
"On every question of construction (of the Constitution), carry ourselves back to the time when the Constitution was adopted, recollect the spirit manifested in the debates, and instead of trying what meaning may be squeezed out of the text, or invented against it, conform to the probable one in which it was passed." Thomas Jefferson
Bolt Unit B441
White GMC Cargo Van
OOIDA Member, #934277
|
|
|
10-21-2009, 05:55 PM
|
#8 (permalink)
|
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Toledo, Ohio
Posts: 3,739
|
Re: barrys Enemies List???
From liberal to another...maybe barry should listen to this one....nah barry knows it all, he don't need no "stinking advise" from a news reporter....
Why the White House Shouldn't Play Chicken With Fox
10/21/09
David Corn
Why the White House Shouldn't Play Chicken With Fox -- Politics Daily
Quote:
It's war! A rumble in Washington. Two titanic political forces locked in a bloody battle to the very end. A confrontation between good and evil. A clash of civilizations. Of course, I'm talking about the scuffle between the White House and Fox News.
I'm watching this fight as no disinterested observer. For years I was a rare commodity: a liberal commentator on Fox News. I enjoyed working with the bookers and producers at Fox's Washington bureau. But the place often felt like a foreign territory. On air, I was always the visiting team. The routine usually went something like this: A right-wing host (either an out-in-the-open conservative or barely veiled one) would turn to the conservative guest and ask, "You think the war in Iraq is a stunning success. Please tell us why it's going so well." Then s/he would introduce me and say, "Now, I understand you're against fighting for freedom. Can you explain to our audience why that is?"
Context is everything. While there have been decent, hardworking journalists at Fox, the enterprise is indeed colored by its far-right opinion-masters, most notably those on-air: Sean Hannity, Glenn Beck and Bill O'Reilly. Even its supposed straight-news shows tilt right, with panels loaded with more arch-conservatives than strong liberals. (Media Matters, a liberal watchdog group, has convincingly chronicled how the far-right views expressed on Fox's opinion shows shape the network's news coverage.)
Rupert Murdoch and Roger Ailes have the right to make Fox as right-wingish as they desire. Their network can provide a platform for a host who calls the president a "racist." It can broadcast interviews in which a conservative host asks a conservative guest softball questions. (See Hannity.) It can elect to focus on (real or imagined) foibles of Democrats more than those of Republicans. It can beat the drums for war or recruit foot soldiers for anti-Obama rallies. And it can repeatedly -- and laughably -- assert that it's "fair and balanced." But polite society doesn't have to accept any or all of this.
Neither does the White House. But that doesn't mean the Obama administration has to make a federal case over Fox.
In recent days, the White House has let loose its big guns. On Sunday shows these past two weekends -- as Fox has duly noted -- top Obama officials blasted the network. First, White House Communications Director Anita Dunn slammed Fox as "opinion journalism masquerading as news." Then White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel said that the other cable news networks shouldn't be "following Fox." Senior White House aide David Axelrod declared that Fox is "not a news organization." On Monday, White House press secretary Robert Gibbs accused Fox of skewing its coverage to the right for the sake of profits. And the White House has stopped providing guests to "Fox News Sunday." Dunn told The New York Times, "We're going to treat them like we treat an opponent." Now Washington is abuzz over which side will blink first.
The White House-Fox feud has sparked what the political media most relish: a debate about media and politics. New York Times media dissecter David Carr has chided the White House for punching down -- that is, taking on a foe not worthy of the bother. Worse, he says, "the administration, by deploying official resources against a troublesome media organization, seems to have brought a knife to a gunfight."
Media masher Michael Wolff first chastised Obama for losing his all-too famous cool and for failing to realize "you can't fight" Ailes because he "lives off your rage and blood." Then Wolff had a change of heart and congratulated the Obama White House for devising a truly crafty strategy:
I think they want us to take sides. Are you a Fox person or not a Fox person? And I think they want to identify Fox as the standard bearer of American conservatism. If you're a conservative, you're for Fox (i.e., is that who you want to be?).
They are going to combine this triangulation with their passing of a health care bill. I think they believe that, once this has been passed, to have opposed it will be like opposing Social Security.
Hence, Republicanism = conservatism = Fox = rabid opposition to an incredibly popular piece of legislation = hopeless marginalization = new liberal consensus.
Well, it's a theory. But do White House aides -- while contending with health care legislation, a climate change bill, financial regulation reform, assorted bailouts, negotiations over Iran's nuclear programs, two wars, and much more -- have the time and energy to concoct such a sophisticated and cunning scheme? If so, my hat's off to them.
It looks to me that the Obama-ites are in a zone somewhere between following a grand strategy and winging it. After all, it was only a few weeks ago that Axelrod was meeting with Ailes. And during the campaign, Obama had a secret confab with Ailes and pounded him for running a network that was practically equating him with terrorists. So there has been a shift from trying to deal with Fox to treating it as a major adversary. (MoveOn.org, the liberal advocacy group, has entered the fray, urging its millions of members to pressure Congressional Democrats to stay off Fox.)
Yet whatever Obama and his aides are attempting, they're doing it with a heavy hand. That's probably a mistake. Fox is a distraction, an irritant. It's true that Beck has been scoring boffo ratings -- topping 3 million watchers on special nights -- which is good for cable but still not a gigantic audience in a country this size. Tom DeLay had seven times or so that amount of viewers when he did his "Wild Thing" on "Dancing With the Stars." (There's no solid figure for Rush Limbaugh's audience, but a decent estimate is that he draws about 14 million listeners a week.)
Rather than react in a huffy manner to Fox -- which provides an alternative reality to outraged conservatives who feel lost in Obama's America -- the White House ought to opt for what I'd call strategic derision. Good-natured belittling -- but belittling, all the same -- would go further than indignation, even if the indignation can be justified. That is, don't demolish Fox, demean it. Gibbs should chuckle when a Fox correspondent asks a Foxian question. After all, if Fox is not to be taken seriously, don't take it seriously. And by all means, don't send Obama officials on Fox shows. But if a White House official is asked about this, he or she should reply with dismissive humor, not anger. ("We'd rather be reading the Senate Finance Committee's health care reform bill.") Obama is well-skilled when it comes to deploying a light-but-cutting touch. That ought to be terms of engagement for his aides involved in the Fox skirmish. Fox is not important enough to be treated as Public Enemy No. 1.
Bashing the conservative network could rally Obama's base. But Obama, for good or bad, did promise to rise above partisan sentiment and the game playing of the Washington political-media circus. With a clever use of strategic derision, Obama and his aides could do this and still stick it to the network. Fox is just not worth a game of chicken.
|
__________________
"On every question of construction (of the Constitution), carry ourselves back to the time when the Constitution was adopted, recollect the spirit manifested in the debates, and instead of trying what meaning may be squeezed out of the text, or invented against it, conform to the probable one in which it was passed." Thomas Jefferson
Bolt Unit B441
White GMC Cargo Van
OOIDA Member, #934277
|
|
|
 |
| Thread Tools |
Search this Thread |
|
|
|
| Display Modes |
Linear Mode
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
|
| Sponsors |
|
| Advertiser |
| US CARGO CONTROL |
US Cargo Control offers great discounts on all of the tie downs and moving supplies expediters need to run.
www.uscargocontrol.com
|
| THERMO KING SALES & SERVICE |
Your Complete Expedited Transport
Refrigeration/Heating Solution!
www.tkrichfield.com
|
| AIRTAB |
Airtabs work by creating a controlled swirl of
air, or vortex, which reduces wind resistance!
www.buyairtab.com
|
| TRANSPORT INSURANCE AGENCY, INC |
Keeping you covered across North America
no matter the size, radius, or product!
www.4tia.com
|
|
|