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    Did they Mis-Speak????

    Or, were they just working from Rahms plam?

    White House Public Option Ploy: A Trial Balloon, Not a White Flag

    Should have known. I guess we have to always suspect any move by the liberals will be some sort of trickery. There is always something sinister behind it.


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    White House public option ploy: A trial balloon, not a white flag

    By Michelle Malkin • August 17, 2009 01:07 AM

    Do you believe the Sunday spin on the White House’s alleged “retreat” from the Obamacare public option?

    Video of HHS Secretary Kathleen Sebelius’s pooh-poohing of the public option provision is here.

    Drudge illustrated the AP story with a white flag.

    Politico says the White House has “backed away.”

    I’m not buying the hype. Are you?

    The real Obama is a declared proponent of single-payer and universal health care Trojan Horses. All else is political theater.

    Late Sunday, the health care czar’s office said Sebelius “misspoke.”

    It’s not a misstatement. It’s not a surrender flag. It’s a trial balloon to measure the potential nutroots backlash versus the potential Senate pick-ups.

    Besides, the public option provision can always be stuffed back in via a 3am manager’s amendment or during the House/Senate conference to reconcile each chamber’s Obamacare bills.

    As for Democrat Sen. Kent Conrad’s health care “co-op” idea, the devil — as always — is in the details.

    Edmund Haislmaier pointed out a few weeks ago at The Foundry:
    If by health care “co-op,” Congress means allowing private associations to collectively buy health insurance for their members or operate a health insurance exchange, or allowing people to buy health insurance from a non-profit, member-owned private insurer, then those would be positive, pro-consumer developments.

    However, simply slapping the word “cooperative” onto a new “insurer,” but then specifying that the government — not the policyholders — picks the board of directors (as Sen. Schumer wants), or that taxpayers will subsidize it, or that it has to pay doctors and hospitals at Medicare rates, would just be an exercise in trying to disguise a “public plan.”

    Distrust and verify.
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    Howard Dean on CBS this morning:
    “It will pass with the public option,” he said, “and the president will sign it sometime in December.”
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    Re: Did they Mis-Speak????

    the co-op isn't a bad idea..but you forget that state regulations control where you can buy insurance, not the fed...so a co-op without removing ALL state regulations won't work and the states will have a fiy if the fed trys to step on them....rightfully so...the states have to change the regulations on their own, not by fed mandiate...
    There are people in need of help. Charity is one of the nobler human motivations. The act of reaching into one's own pockets to help a fellow man in need is praiseworthy and laudable. Reaching into someone else's pocket is despicable and worthy of condemnation.
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    "Idealism is fine, but as it approaches reality, the costs become prohibitive."

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    Re: Did they Mis-Speak????

    all i am saying is that the fed can set it up, but if the states don''t change their regs, then it doesn't work
    There are people in need of help. Charity is one of the nobler human motivations. The act of reaching into one's own pockets to help a fellow man in need is praiseworthy and laudable. Reaching into someone else's pocket is despicable and worthy of condemnation.
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    "Idealism is fine, but as it approaches reality, the costs become prohibitive."

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    Re: Did they Mis-Speak????

    The States need to take the thunder on this and do what each state needs. The heck with the feds, they have no athority in this matter. They need to get rid of their regulations on doctors. They really need to just go away.

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