My man Bill gets journalists pardoned

[oncedrove]

To bad they didn't KEEP him. I would give a few bucks to see him stay there!!!!!!!!!!!

[Poorboy]

Give me a break...I know you're not that naive...

Naive?? I Don't think it has anything to do with Being Naive, I Believe that there are still Some People Out there that Have what is Called "Morals" And that's a Good Thing!!

[layoutshooter]

Give me a break...I know you're not that naive...

How? I know for a FACT that the Soviets used to, and I would be willing to bet that they still are, exploiting that EXACT thing.

[letzrockexpress]

How? I know for a FACT that the Soviets used to, and I would be willing to bet that they still are, exploiting that EXACT thing.

Exploiting what? I have to watch what I say on this subject, but in the grand scheme of things, it means nothing. I submit most people who claim to be apalled by, shall we say, extra-marital relations have either engaged in them or at the very least, thought about it. The Bible says if you lust in your heart you may as well have done it because it's a sin just the same.
Save the "Holier Than Though" crap. I live in the real world...

[davekc]

Hey, hey, hey,

This is the first thing I can actually give Obama credit for.
Why? If your going to send someone to North Korea and Hillary can't get it done, I think Bill was the perfect choice.
They don't call him "Slick Willy" for nothing.
This guy could sell a boat to a man in the desert. Look at the results when he was governor of Arkansas.
He probably said, "there IS a ocean in the desert"
If you are trying to strike a deal, what makes more sense than sending the biggest BS'er in the country to broker a deal.
Perfect choice if you ask me.

[Moot]

The Bible says if you lust in your heart you may as well have done it because it's a sin just the same.

I thought the peanut farmer said that.

[Tennesseahawk]

The Soviets had to have proof that the Kennedys and LBJ were screwing around. Makes me wonder what we paid. In that time, no one would've gotten elected/reelected if it were common knowledge of them having committed adultery.

If concrete proof of Clinton's infidelity came to light, and/or the trial leading to the perjury, leading to his impeachment, happened before his reelection, he probably wouldn't have won. In the end, people want politicians to "appear" upstanding. If they show their garbage, they aren't likely to stay politicians.

I see where Layout is going with this. If someone is known to play the field, whether they be a president, or a Marine embassy guard, they are a threat to whom they're sworn to protect. They are supposed to be held to the highest standard BECAUSE they carry information that could be turned against us. Having an adulterer as president shows those who would harm us that they are bargaining with a man who has no scruples. The perfect example of that would be Clinton trading satellite secrets with the Chinese, and soliciting them for campaign donations... no conscience... only immediate satisfaction and personal gain.

[atlas1220]

He could have book himself a flight to Mexico City and worked there for a lot less than what was spent on this trip

You really need to read up on the subject more, as your understanding of what's going on in Mexico is obviously hindered by your total lack of knowledge.

[letzrockexpress]

I thought the peanut farmer said that.

He did but he borrowed it...

[greg334]

You really need to read up on the subject more, as your understanding of what's going on in Mexico is obviously hindered by your total lack of knowledge.

Wow your back, now go away again.

[mjolnir131]

Give me a break...I know you're not that naive...

It's really naive to think that if somebody cheats in one area they will not cheat in another.I would think that is the epitome of naive. Kinda like it takes years for a dog to catch on to the fake throw type naive,the way,way to trusting type of naive.

[hdxpedx]

I see a former pres. STANDING SIDE BY SIDE legitimizing one of the WORLD'S MASS MURDERER'S!! DURING HIS presidental regime- clinton ARMED, WEAPONIZED NUCLEAR TECH. and paid RANSOM'S to feed the DICTATOR'S REGIME, while the COMMON FOLK STILL to DATE are STARVED. while--- ALL of madame HALFBRITE'S trip's said positive remarks of the NK pres. kim jaundice ILL. REMEMBER?.. AL GORK should had paid RANSOM as the girls EMPLOYER, with HIS frozen make believe iceburg movie cash.. BUT NO- KIM JAUNDICE ILL PLAYED and beat clinton again!! click-click--What an embarrassing PHOTO!! IS CLINTON SMILING??

[layoutshooter]

Sorry Rocket, the kind of blackmail I was speaking of is VERY real. The Soviets used too, and most likely STILL, try to set up agents for blackmail. Hookers, drugs, whatever, the weakness did NOT matter. The idea was to FORCE the person to devulge classified documents. It is a VERY dirty business. It was a BIT easier with young military agents but only just a bit. A weak character is just that.

Clinton is NOT a man of character. He should NOT be trusted. He cannot be trusted. He has a long backround in the PIGISH lifestyle.

As to this subject, in the long run this will have serious effects on the US and NOT good ones. Once you start buying off these people you have headed down a road that is VERY hard to turn back from.

We are a very weak nation now and it shows. Carter and Clinton were weak men and weakend the Nation. Obama is weak, VERY, weak. There are ONLY two choices in life when it comes to defense, STAND STRONG or stay home and get whipped. This move is a PRIME example of what not having a clue is.

Time will only tell what we GAVE AWAY to do this. The NEXT time, like maybe 3 hikers that Iran might have, we will have to give up even more. It will NOT end unless we say NO to this and be prepared to kick a little tail. THEN it will stop, after the tail kicking.

[greg334]

3 - this was carefully stage for;
a) maximum political exposure for Kim

I just read the details of this "unannounced"visit by this "private citizen".

He had Obama's support, which means this was a sanctioned by the WH using the same standards that have been used in the past.

an Excerpt from the AP's Obama propaganda section;

The White House has taken pains since Clinton's arrival in Pyongyang to play the mission as a private one designed only to win the release of Laura Ling, 32, and Euna Lee, 36, both with former Vice President Al Gore's Current TV media venture. They were captured while on assignment to collect material for a report about trafficking of North Korean women into China.


Bill Clinton undertook the mission, a senior administration official said, only after the North assured the White House that the reporters would be freed and allowed to return home with the former president.


The official, who spoke on condition of anonymity to detail the back-channel negotiations, also said the north rejected Gore as a suitable emissary. The journalists' families, Gore and the White House then turned to Clinton. The official said President Barack Obama did not speak with Clinton about the mission.


Daniel Sneider, associate director of research at Stanford University's Shorenstein Asia-Pacific Research Center, said the journalists' release followed weeks of quiet negotiations between the State Department and the North Korean mission to the United Nations.


Clinton "didn't go to negotiate this, he went to reap the fruits of the negotiation," Sneider said.

[layoutshooter]

Too bad that the artical did not go into just what this has cost us as a country. Watch for more "kidnappings" or US citizens being "caught" where they should not be. Be on the look out for higher and higher demands.