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    Re: David Letterman - Prince of Late Night Cowardice

    If Obama finds himself with a 14 year old and an 18 year old that got pregnant at 16 and someone makes a joke about the 14 year old my opinion of the jokester would be the same. Decent adults don't make jokes about 14 year olds getting knocked up. For the most part kids shouldn't be joked about at all. Kids often have very thin shells and any sort of joking can be harmful in many circumstances especially when made to a national audience. The 18 year old has nothing to do with what actually happened. It might have been their intent to make that joke about the 18 year old. If so, they should have done what was necessary to guarantee she was the object of the joke and not her 14 year old sister.
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    Layout,I agree with you 100% on the issue of taking responsibility for parenting correctly and with understanding and structure. I was (still am) a single parent of my two kids from age's 4 and 2. Although I had some help from Grandparents on both sides so I could travel for work,I was the responsible party.

    The one thing I knew,and paid close attention to,was who their friends were,and most importantly what was going on at their homes.Although I could probably be categorized as a counter culture father,it did not involve drugs of any kind,particularly cigarettes and alcohol.So many parents think these two vice's have no influence's on kids. That's just so wrong.Kids follow the lead of Mommy and Daddy first and foremost.If you smoked in front of your kids,or got drunk in front of them you were irresponsible parents. If your kids are drunks that can't stay out of trouble, look in the mirror for a clue as to why.

    With my daughter,if I had gut feelings about her male friends in high school ,I made my feeling known. In a few case's, they were simply not allowed to be part of her life. When she broke the rule (snuck around behind my back)I came down hard.I insisted on meeting the parents. I can pretty well spot a crank head or potential drug infested situation. It's not difficult. Palin obviously was too busy to follow up on her daughters boy friends home life . She is now paying a very heavy price for it. Forget the Kennedy's.I mean you guys seem to have to dredge up the past in nearly every post.IT'S NOT RELIVANT TO TODAY and has no bearing on the situation at hand.
    I happen to like Letterman,and if he screwed up once,big deal.Out of the thousands of times he's done monologues he screwed this one up. Your treating him like a child molester.Moral high horse's to the rescue. Tar and feather him!! It's a sign of how far your desperate need to attack has come.

    By the way,David always has Willie Nelson on his show when Willies in town. A left wing,pot smoking entertainer who has single handily,at great personnel expense,led the cause for the family farm and raised tens of millions of dollars to keep the issue in front of the American people. He's helped countless farmers ,of very political persuasion,keep their family farms.Left wing entertainer who speaks directly to truck drivers every week on his Sirius radio show.Quit the sweeping generalities about groups of people.You score a lot more brownie points for your side if you do.Restraint is a good thing at times.
    Willie does NOT impress me, I don't like his music, his polititics and know MANY family farmers that wish he would go away. I am a trucker, he does NOT speak to me or for me in any way shape or form. NO one does. As to sweeping generalitities, any chance you have partaken in that when talking about Re-Bum-Li-Cans? Gun owners?

    We most likely agree on many things about parenting and rasing kids. I am very happy to know you "stood up" for your kids. Maybe even other things. I was NOT hamering Lettermen for ANYTHING EXCEPT this ONE issue. It was wrong, and he should be blasted for it. I did NOT treat him as a child molester, although, that kind of action CAN have bad effects on a kid that is already in a fragile state. To do it ONLY for political reasons, well, that makes it worse. That say mountians about the sleeze level of the guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LDB View Post
    If Obama finds himself with a 14 year old and an 18 year old that got pregnant at 16 and someone makes a joke about the 14 year old my opinion of the jokester would be the same. Decent adults don't make jokes about 14 year olds getting knocked up. For the most part kids shouldn't be joked about at all. Kids often have very thin shells and any sort of joking can be harmful in many circumstances especially when made to a national audience. The 18 year old has nothing to do with what actually happened. It might have been their intent to make that joke about the 18 year old. If so, they should have done what was necessary to guarantee she was the object of the joke and not her 14 year old sister.
    Yaaawwwwnnnnnnn.

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    Re: David Letterman - Prince of Late Night Cowardice

    Layout, you keep bringing up that Letterman did this for political reasons. Is there some kind of Left-Wing Comic Conspiracy that I'm not aware of? I bet Letterman gets his orders directly from the top.

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    Quote Originally Posted by witness23 View Post
    Yaaawwwwnnnnnnn.
    Compassion. Sir, have some compassion. This IS a kid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by witness23 View Post
    Layout, you keep bringing up that Letterman did this for political reasons. Is there some kind of Left-Wing Comic Conspiracy that I'm not aware of? I bet Letterman gets his orders directly from the top.
    The networks in general LEAN a BIT? to the left. I agree, he gets is orders from the top. A MAN refuses immoral and or illegal orders in spite of what may or may not happen to him as a result. Proof the networks lean left? Just watch the debate or lack of it and the reporting on the health care issue. Any bet it will open? Any bet it will have fair honest reporting? NAW!!!

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    Re: David Letterman - Prince of Late Night Cowardice

    Quote Originally Posted by witness23 View Post
    Yaaawwwwnnnnnnn.
    Yes, liberals are dull and boring.
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    Re: David Letterman - Prince of Late Night Cowardice

    Just to be clear, I won't lambaste anyone for their beliefs, but I will, absolutely, lambaste them for trying to force their beliefs onto others, or dismiss an individual as being irrelevant, or worthless, or somehow less of a person because they don't share the same beliefs. Being blatantly hypocritical will also get you basted as a lamb.

    Now, I'll get back to the playground and get back to lambasting these kids for making jokes about other kids.

    "Hey! Hey! Hippo, you and the Chubs need to quit pulling Metal Mouth's pigtails. Somebody's gonna think you're in love. Get over here and help Four Eyes find his glasses. He came down the slide without them. Where's Pizza Face? Hey, Stinky!!"





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    Re: David Letterman - Prince of Late Night Cowardice

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    Yes, liberals are dull and boring.
    Are you calling me a Liberal(not that there is anything wrong with that), if so may I ask why?

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    Re: David Letterman - Prince of Late Night Cowardice

    I think I know why so many are upset about this situation. I really think that they believe it was actually Obama who made these comments, not Letterman. They are confused, daranged and just don't have a grasp on reality. Why else would there be so much hoopla made over a comedians meeningless monologue.

    I guess there goes Letterman's chance at the Presidency. When he announced his planning on running I thought he had a real chance until he did this. Maybe Obama will bring him onboard as a writer. Now that would be something to talk about.

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    Re: David Letterman - Prince of Late Night Cowardice

    Rush and a caller just said that they can't understand why they just don't leave Sarah Palin alone. Rush say's it's because they are afraid of her.

    huh??

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    Re: David Letterman - Prince of Late Night Cowardice

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    I heard what he said and yes it sounded like an apology to me. I do not believe for 1 second he meant to talk about a 14 year old getting knocked up.

    Do you know what was in his head? Did you talk to him? I don't need to talk to Dave, I give him the benefit of the doubt, Go ahead with your silly little boycott.
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    Re: David Letterman - Prince of Late Night Cowardice

    Turtle... you mentioned Letterman said nothing about rape. When he mentioned A-Rod knocking up a 14 yr old, that IS rape... statutory, but rape, nonetheless.

    Sarah Palin is young, intelligent, a successful governor who is loved by the ppl of Alaska, and VERY conservative. Me thinks the libs see her as a possible American Margaret Thatcher. They won't give her that chance, so they make her the butt of jokes, to minimize her in the eyes of the voters. Damm right they're afraid of her!
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    This place amazes me sometime. I can see that trying to talk sense in here is a waste of time. You go ahead, make fun of and compound the problems of a child. Real he-men. Be proud. Un-real. I say that we should protect children and I am forcing my beliefs. WOW.

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    Re: David Letterman - Prince of Late Night Cowardice

    [QUOTE=Tennesseahawk;310865]Turtle... you mentioned Letterman said nothing about rape. When he mentioned A-Rod knocking up a 14 yr old, that IS rape... statutory, but rape, nonetheless.QUOTE]

    So....when Bristol and Levi were having sex he should have been brought up on rape charges??

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