Obama Snubs Nation's Heros

[OntarioVanMan]

you do know that most insurance plans will cover Anger Management courses,right ??

it's ok to agree to disagree and then move on

*LOL* good one miker.....

[chefdennis]

lolthat is good, but i have no desire to "move on", you can look at it as just a avg joe doin what the msm did to bush for 8 yrs,, get use to it.

oh no anger here at all , i am totally enjoying this...in a "sadistic" kind of way....

[iceroadtrucker]

I believe he is a good guy.

I believe he wouldnt do anything like that

I believe he will do the right thing.

[Turtle]

Well Chef, you're gonna really get a sadistic joyride out of this.

"Yes he did go to the Commanders Ball, this was the Ball Honoring Medal of Honor Recipients, one the President Bush found his way to, both times, in 2005 making it his 1st stop."

Obama didn't go to the Salute to Heroes Ball because it wasn't on the official list of the Presidential Inauguration Committee. It wasn't even on the list of the major Unofficial Balls. In years past, that Ball was on the list, as a part of the Commander In Chief Ball, and that's why the other Presidents showed up. It's precisely that simple. President Bush managed to find his way to the Salute to Heroes Ball both times because it was on the official list and it took place at the same location as the CinC Ball (which was at the Capitol, both times, which is probably why it was so easy for him to find it <giggle>). If it wasn't on the list he wouldn't have shown up.


"And I don't care if it isn't on the "Offical Ball List or not,..."

Now you know why you're not in charge of the Presidential Inauguration Committee, nor the Secret Service.

"...this is the 1st time a new president hasn't been to THIS BALL in years...something like 14 inaugurals..."

Yep. First time ever, since the Ball was first put together specifically for Eisenhower.


"And i have to ask, while I know blogs are the MSM, are you saying the article is false??"

Yes the article is false, and it's even more false than I first imagined. The entire article was written based on the original Blog entry by a guy named TOS, which was mainly lies using the name of Medal of Honor recipients to push propaganda. In the Blog comments someone called him on it and he got really defensive at first, shifted blame next, and has been either backtracking like crazy, or dead silent ever since.

The whole thing's a lie, and the article is based on that lie. It's a finely crafted lie, as many facts are included, but those facts are presented to paint an illusion instead of the truth.

Go to the American Legion Web site and see what they have to say about it all. Nothing. Not one word.

This despite TOS's assertions that, "For the record, a PR person at The Legion just told me the story will be up with pictures tomorrow morning on their website."

In a later Blog entry he laments (poor, poor pitiful me) that the American Legion didn't help his case by putting up a story on their Web site commending Obama for being at the CinC Ball. (There was no such story on the American Legion site.)

He's been backtracking ever since, and finally wrote:
"I really wish I hadn’t brought it up in the first place now only because of the craziness."

He'll try to ignore it and move on as quickly as possible, hoping that memories are fleeting.
This ain’t Hell, but you can see it from here Blog Archive Obama blows off Medal of Honor recipients [Jonn]



But as to the competency of the article from the prestigious Cleveland Dealer, the first line is a misrepresentation of the truth, as well as containing personal opinion presented as fact. The second line does the same thing, starting off with a misrepresentation of the truth, quickly followed by personal opinion in the same line. The article contains many facts, most of it copied word for word, some of it rephrased, from a a couple of different AP News articles (or Reuters) from this year and from fours years ago, but it also omits several key facts of the story (because those facts are in opposition to the writer's agenda).

The second paragraph is word for word from an AP News story from 4 years ago, except for the final sentence, which the writer added to make her case. The first two thirds of the third paragraph (which is a single sentence) is a direct quote from the AP, and then the final third is something that the writer came up with on her own, for obvious reasons.

I wonder, other than the Paralyzed Veterans of America and the Military Order of the Purple Heart, who were the other 11 sponsoring organizations this year? For that matter, I wonder if even those two organizations had anything to do with the one this year. You know why those two organizations were listed in the article, it's because they were the only two that were listed in the press articles from 2005's Ball. There have been no news stories, or announcements on any of the organization's Web sites listing who the other 13 sponsors were for this year's Ball.

She made it up. Just flat out made it up. Others read it, and they believed it.


The rest is predictable enough, with the first line of the 4th paragraph being the writer's, and the rest of it, and the 5th paragraph, being copied from other sources. The final paragraph is all the opinion of the writer.


And just for the record...
On Sunday, President Elect Obama and V.P. Biden placed a wreath at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier in Arlington National Cemetery.

On Monday he made an unannouced visit to Walter Reed Army Medical Center and met with the wounded from Iraq and Afghanistan.

On Tuesday the President attended 10 official balls including the Commander in Chief's Ball at the National Building Museum. (Free of charge for any enlisted personnel)

Take that to mean anything you like.


Internet Blogs are no different than 4 truckers sitting at a table in a restaurant. The only difference is, you won't believe 95% of what the truckers say, but when you read it in print, you believe it 100%. You have to be very careful at what you accept at face value on the Internet.

Normally, when you read something in a magazine or in a newspaper, there is some journalistic responsibility behind it all. There used to be a saying, "It's true, I read it in the paper," and people could take that for being true. Now, people actually say, "It's true, I read it on the Internet," and because they read it, they believe it with the same confidence that used to be with newspapers. While it's true that responsible journalism is taking quite a hit in the newspapers these days, thanks in large part to a generation of journalists who got their training on the Web, they still rarely print out-and-out lies passed off as the truth. They check facts and get at least two confirmations before running the story (most of the time, and when they don't, it comes back to bite them every time).

The Bloggers don't do that. They just make shіt up. And people believe it.

[chefdennis]

LOL, the fact still remains, HE didn't go!! I and I'll continue to post here and on more then a few sites anything that makes him look bad... I'll keep you busy checking for accuracy!!

turtle wrote:

Now you know why you're not in charge of the Presidential Inauguration Committee, nor the Secret Service.

LOL, if i were in charge of the secret service, id simply send his security detail home, for his entire term!! LOL, id assign them to protect the janitor at the white house before i'd have them protect osamaba...

[Moot]

Sure is difficult to get whipped up into an un-American anarchist frenzy when comrade Turtle insists on dredging up facts. Killjoy!

[chefdennis]

nope, not for me it ain't! and i don't care if it is for you or not..

[Turtle]

LOL, the fact still remains, HE didn't go!!

He didn't go because there was no American Legion sponsored Salute to Heroes Ball to go to. There were lots of other events that didn't happen that he didn't go to, too.

I and I'll continue to post here and on more then a few sites anything that makes him look bad...

Even if it's a lie? You are crushing all of my perceptions of what it means to be a hero. I and the American people look to the American Veteran as a symbol of hope, of principle, of honor. {cue the music} We look to the American Veteran, both past and present, for the safety and security of our lives and our liberties. {cue the flag} We look to the American Veteran for the preservation of Truth, Justice and the American Way. The American Veteran is our hero. Now you're telling us our Hero would lie to us? {fade to black, go to commercial, we're done here}

I'll keep you busy checking for accuracy!!

Not likely. More likely is that I'll tire of your irresponsibility in posting lies, and you'll be unceremoniously dishonorably discharged to the Ignore List.

LOL, if i were in charge of the secret service, id simply send his security detail home, for his entire term!! LOL, id assign them to protect the janitor at the white house before i'd have them protect osamaba...

No comment.

[chefdennis]

Not likely. More likely is that I'll tire of your irresponsibility in posting lies, and you'll be unceremoniously dishonorably discharged to the Ignore List.

lol and you think that bothers me..........lol

and no, i won't deliberately post a lie, i'll just not go out of my way to verify, ill leave that to you ....

[Turtle]

lol and you think that bothers me..........lol

Actually, no, you're wrong again.

and no, i won't deliberately post a lie, i'll just not go out of my way to verify,

Irresponsible

ill leave that to you ....

Equally irresponsible

[chefdennis]

yeap you are right the was no Red White and Blue Hero's Ball Sponored by the American Legion, But the was a Red White and Blue Hero's Ball, it just had a diffent sponsor this year( the USO & TAPS), but i am sure you knew that and your post prove that out, kind of disingenous on your part don't you think!?!? LOL.. but its ok, osamaba didn't go to this Red White and Blue Hero's Ball either.

2009 Heroes Red, White, and Blue Inaugural Ball

[chefdennis]

Yea my mom told me from time to time that I was "irresponsible" too, but its served me well all these years!!

[chefdennis]

And these soldiers didn't walkout of the Red White & Blue Hero's Ball either:

Wounded vets walk out during inaugural ball concert

Wounded vets walk out during inaugural ball concert - Presidential Inaugural - Inauguration Blog - Washington Times

i hope the washington times blog is a good enough scource...

[Pilgrim]

He didn't go because there was no American Legion sponsored Salute to Heroes Ball to go to.

Evidently, this argument has been happening on other sites.
From the Berman Post - yet another blog (see link below):

email from the American legion
From: Roberts, Craig R. croberts@legion. org
Subject: Salute to Heroes inaugural event
To: larry@nam-vet. net
Cc: "March, Joseph H." jmarch@legion. org
Date: Thursday, January 22, 2009, 11:56 AM

Good afternoon Mr. Stimeling,

The American Legion, as it has since on every inauguration day since
1953, hosted the Salute to Heroes Inaugural Banquet & Ball on
January 20th. The quadrennial event is co-sponsored with fourteen
fellow veterans service and military service organizations and honors
recipients of the Medal of Honor. Forty-seven of these heroes
attended this year's event which was held in the Renaissance
Washington DC Hotel.

President Obama was invited but did not attend. Vice-President Joe
Biden did appear, however, and was very warmly received.

Thanks for your inquiry.

Craig Roberts

Media Relations Manager

The American Legion

1608 K Street, NW

Washington, DC 20006

202.263.2982 (direct)


Berman Post: Obama Skips The "Salute to Heroes Inaugural Ball"


Just for comparison's sake, the following article about President Bush' attendance appeared in 2005 in the Air Force Print News Today:


President thanks veterans for service during inaugural ball

[Turtle]

Well, I never said there was no Red White and Blue Hero's Ball Sponsored by the American Legion. It's a true statement, but I never said it.

I said there was no Salute to Heroes Ball sponsored by the American Legion, and there wasn't.

And the Red White and Blue Ball didn't just have a different sponsor this year.

It's a completely different ball and has never had anything to do with the Salute to Heroes Ball that the American Legion has sponsored. It's an important Ball, I think, but keep in mind that the POTUS didn't go to the very-first-ever Red White and Blue Ball in 2005, either.

This year's Red White and Blue Ball was not, absolutely not, sponsored by the USO (the Metro Washington chapter, anyway) and TAPS. The Ball was held specifically as a charity benefit for those two organizations. It had corporate sponsorship. It had the same sponsor this year that it did 4 years ago, namely the Citizens Helping Heroes. Both this year and four years ago, it raised the funds to pay for the event through corporate funding. CHH is a very worthwhile organization, as are their two primary charities.

There were no special interest or benefit Balls on the Presidential Inauguration Committee's list.

"kind of disingenous on your part don't you think!?!?"

Nope. What's disingenuous about it?


Originally Posted by Turtle
He didn't go because there was no American Legion sponsored Salute to Heroes Ball to go to.

Evidently, this argument has been happening on other sites.

I'm shocked. I can fake an e-mail with the best of 'em.

Have you noticed how silent TSO has been of late? No scans of anything that would substantiate his being there. Nothing.

What part of "it's all made up" do you not understand? The whole thing was made up to make Obama look bad. Apparently, many think Obama will be unable to do that on his own.

Find a link, if you can, to the American Legion's Web site that talks about any of this.

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