[Black Sheep]

"Guilty as hell, free as a bird, it's a great country".
William Ayers - Fouder, Weatherman Underground

For those of you who have been hearing and reading about Obama's pal William Ayers lately, here's a little more information from Michelle Malkin's website:

Michelle Malkin Flag desecration of the day: Bill Ayers stomps on Old Glory

About the only difference between this guy and Timothy McVeigh is that McVeigh was a better bomber. Any presidential candidate that would have his political career promoted by someone like this should be disqualified on the obvious grounds that he is at the very least a left-wing radical militant sympathizer, but more importantly it tells you the type of associates that will make up his close advisors and cabinet. This is consistent with the fact that Barack Hussein Obama's voting record in the most liberal in the Senate, and his wife's declaration that now that her husband is running for president she can be proud of her country "for the first time". Can you imagine who his Supreme Court nominees would be?

I know there's are a lot of us that are not particularly enthused about McCain, but with BHO as president we would see a lot more people like Ayers influencing the direction our country takes. For anyone thinking about sitting out this election and not voting, think long and hard about these types of people running our economy, health care, education system and military. Sit at home on election day, and you could very easily have Secretary Ayers running the Dept of Educaton a few months later.

[layoutshooter]

Mr. Ayers is the enemy of my country, therfore my enemy. Osama Obama is the friend of my enemy therfore he too is my enemy. That simple. Layoutshooter

[Pilgrim]

Take a close look at those pictures - how can anyone closely associated with someone like this be considered a serious presidential candidate? Then we realize his other confidants are Rev. Wright, Tony Rezko, etc. His resume is empty, other than being an insignificant state senator and junior senator from IL for less than one term. The only thing he does well is read a speech and "act" presidential when he has a script. Brad Pitt can to that.

[layoutshooter]

Yea and Brad Pitt ain't that good at it either. What makes anyone think the "Boy God" will be either? Layoutshooter

[tallcal101]

You guys so crack me up. Do you remeber a scum back terrorist by the name of Donald Rumsfeld? He has more blood on his hands (women and children mostly)then big bad Bill Ayers can ever claim.He has all but disappeared from site. He is a vile human being who turned our bravest and best into death squads in the name of oil. He was and is a tool of the same people who have stolen our money and are living like kings and queens. Cheney is absolutly a war monger bully with blood smeared so deep in his shark skin that he deserve's to be horse whipped.

William Ayers took a position against sensless atrocities being commited in the name of our country against a small nation in Southeast Asia. The pigs,and I mean pigs,who perpetuated that insanity brought the beast out in some of us. They destroyed the families of 50,000 Americans of my generation. I never found it in me to bomb the Pentigon,but I understood why some did.Does that make me a terrorist? Or a sympethiser? Some may say yes,but we all agree here that sometimes it takes a ****ed revolution to bring people to their knees. and restore sanity. I marched and got sprayed and ultimatly saved lives. And I'm proud of it !!!
People like Bush and Cheney and Rumsfeld have zero problem throwing the facts out the window and putting young people in harms way and crating death and destruction. Ayers is a p***y compared to these guys. You should all be ashamed.

[layoutshooter]

You know TalCal101, if you had spent less time being mal-content and more time busting your butt like the rest of us you would have went far in this life. I worked with many and I mean many minoritys over my life. They all did very well. Some worked for me and I worked for some. They made it on thier merrits. You speak of our government killing people. We are at war. A war started durning Carter's reign by people who have no respect for life in any way shape or form. I really don't care what you think, I KNOW far more about our military and what we have been up against the last 50 years. I was there. I did not run and hide. I too was gassed. I also was denied the right to work because I was a white male. I was denied the right to work, by the Ford administration, because I was a vet. I was spit on in airports, subways and streets. Two of my fellow soldiers were thrown to thier deaths down an elevator shaft in Boston in late 1970 by "Peace Activists". I targeted nukes for 5 yers. I did NOT target civilians as you and your traitor buddy Ayers claim. He and I guess you if you stand for or with him have been out to destroy this country. You most likely will win. Then you will see the fruits of your labor. A revolution or civil war. You claim you are for peace. How many are you willing to kill here to insure your socialist rule? 50? 100? Or more like Soviet Russia, 25 million? Don't worry, I won't start it. I have never started a fight. I will defend myself when your, or exscuse me, Osama Obama's storm troppers attack. Clinton did. Let us not forget the over 10,000 un-warrented home invasions under his rule. Under the banner of gun control. Looking for illegal weapons. No arrests were ever made. There were no illegal weapons. Ayers was a traitor. Mohammad Ali I respect. He was anti-war but he did not run. He stood his ground. He went to jail for his beliefs. He stayed here and stayed his course, the sign of a real man. If your are soooo up on your commies and love them so much, read the books by Dr. Tom Dooley. Ex-navy who quit the navy to form a group called medico in SE Asia. Read how the enlightened commies brought about utopia. By raping nuns and then hanging them upside down and splitting them in half. By running chop sticks through the ears of anyone who listened to a view other than the "right" one. And on and on. Or the "purges" in Russia and China, the pruges that have cost this world close to 75+ million people. And you and they have the nerve to call me a baby killer. By the way baby killing is the halmark pride of the Dems. Layoutshooter

[Jack_Berry]

bill ayers is the 2008 presidential election version of kato kaitlen. after the election he goes away. he is only being paraded around by the anti obma conspiracy groups.

if he was actually wanted for anything would the fbi not have arrested him already?

[Pilgrim]

[QUOTE=tallcal101;268429]"You guys so crack me up. Do you remeber a scum back terrorist by the name of Donald Rumsfeld? He has more blood on his hands (women and children mostly)then big bad Bill Ayers can ever claim.He has all but disappeared from site. He is a vile human being who turned our bravest and best into death squads in the name of oil. He was and is a tool of the same people who have stolen our money and are living like kings and queens. Cheney is absolutly a war monger bully with blood smeared so deep in his shark skin that he deserve's to be horse whipped."

Deja-vu all over again - I remember it well. This hysterical rant sounds exactly like the nonsense that in the late 60s and early 70s spewed from the mouths of radical left-wing insurrectionists such as William Ayers: totally without merit and devoid of any factual basis, just hate-filled name calling directed toward politicians because of disagreement with their policies. To compare Rumsfeld and Cheney with an admitted and unrepentant domestic terrorist like Ayers is beyond nonsensical. Below is a link to offer additional information about Ayers and his Weatherman underground group:

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/i...asp?indid=2169

Also, here's a quote from William Ayers describing the Weatherman group's philosophy at that time which gives us a perfect snapshot of his mindset: "Kill all the rich people. Break up their cars and apartments. Bring the revolution home. Kill your parents." Ayers and his wife should not only have been horsewhipped, they should also have spent considerable time in prison. Unfortunately, they got off the hook due to a legal technicality caused by improper govt. surveillance. Fast forward to the present, and here this guy is - a confidant to Barack Hussein Obama, Democrat candidate for president. We are certainly justified in judging this candidate by reviewing his voting record, his complete lack of accomplishments, and last but not least - the company he keeps.

[tallcal101]

I stand by my comments.I did not run,and was prepared to go to jail for my beliefs.I refused to run from the cowards who were shipping off my brothers and sisters and would have done hard time rather then fight their war.

The Vietnam Veterans against the war had a large impact on bringing the war to an end. Bill Ayers had no impact by comparison.The Weather Underground was a tiny group of revolutionaries who did not represent the majority of loyal American young people who were ultimatly vindicated and correct in our assesment that the war was unjust and unwinable using an above ground scorched earth approcah.

Bill Ayers is nothing more then a desparate scapegoat for a campaign that has lost its way.
There are no descriptions or accounts of the impending doom and gloom that can be any worse then what has happened in the last 8 years.I'm putting little or no credence to most of the ranting about our Communist future,but for those who actually believe this,where have you been living the last 8 years while your counrty has fallen to pieces?
I guess living in some kind of netherworld where anything your governemnt did was A OK with you,just keep those pesky dem's out of office. Guess what,somebody screwed the pooch.

[RoadHooligan]

Obama was 8 years old when Ayers was commiting crimes. It is a stupid allagation put forth by desperate people.

Is it any more far fetched to assume that Mc Cain is a communist since he lived and associated with the Viet Cong for five and a half years? You may say that is stupid, but you can't deny that he did live with the enemy for several years.

Why don't you look at who can help the country instead of spreading this kind of crap?

Road Hooligan

[hdxpedx]

I've seen SARA PALINS DAUGHTERS- boyfriend-and their house, I've seen JOE the plumbers neigborhood. I know his TAX liens-credit-plumbers lic...I can't find WRIGHT-AYERS-OBUMERS- the screaming white preacher or faraCON ANYWHERE!! GESTAPO!!

[Pilgrim]

At the risk of being redundant, I'll try to give my reasoning why I and others think Barack Hussein Obama can not help the country. Since his resume is a blank page - never had a real job in his life; no executive experience which has required making decisions that have significant consequences - we have only his voting record and his past/present associations with people and organizations to tell us who this guy is. Forget about his or any other politician's campaign promises - they mean nothing. We know the following facts:

1. His voting record is the MOST LIBERAL IN THE ENTIRE SENATE
2. During his brief tenure there he has sponsored NO SIGNIFICANT LEGISLATION whatsoever and displayed no leadership ability.
3. He has been heavily involved with ACORN as a community organizer and it's General Counsel. His campaign contributed over $800,000 to one of ACORN's front groups to facilitate their voter registration efforts, for which they're being investigated in twelve different states for voter registration fraud and other campaign violations.
4. His close personal associates include Ayers the terrorist, who to this day wishes he had set off more bombs and caused more damage and death of innocents during the 60s & 70s; Tony Rezko, the Syrian born convicted shyster who awaits sentencing to federal prison; his mentor Rev. Wright, the black racist, black separatist minister of 20 years who has admittedly been his mentor and close confidant who performed his marriage ceremony and Baptised his two daughters; and last but not least, his lovely bride who wrote her thesis on black separatism and is now finally proud of her country. These are now and have been his comrades and will be the types of radicals he chooses for his cabinet, his advisors and his judicial appointments if he is elected. The fact that he was eight years old when Ayers was blowing up things is irrelevant - Ayers is a left-wing radical now just as he was then.

To compare these voluntary and willing associations with McCain's time as a POW is beyond absurd. For anyone who doesn't understand what a prisoner is, it's someone who is taken captive against his will. Throw in a few years of torture and you start to get the picture of what it was like being a POW during the Vietnam War - that hardly constitutes an "association."

Making soaring speeches and being "cool" in debates is fine for showmanship, but this aptitude hardly qualifies one for being able to handle the most demanding job in the world. Obama is the MOST LIBERAL, MOST UNPREPARED and LEAST QUALIFIED presidential candidate from one of the two major parties this country has ever had. His personna is entirely a media creation. McCain is certainly not ideal, but he's far and away more prepared for this position than Obama.

[RoadHooligan]

So, I guess what you are saying is you won't be voiting for Obama.

That is your right. Good luck with your smear tactics.

Road Hooligan

[hdxpedx]

Originally Posted by hdxpedx

I've seen SARA PALINS DAUGHTERS- boyfriend-and their house, I've seen JOE the plumbers neigborhood. I know his TAX liens-credit-plumbers lic...I can't find WRIGHT-AYERS-OBUMERS- the screaming white preacher or faraCON ANYWHERE!! GESTAPO!!

UPDATE one day later..I SAW SARA SNL! I've seen SARA's brother, his house,their family pictures.. and on "FOXY" last nite I saw how far left- AMERICA HATER BILL AYERS STILL IS TODAY-with pictures of the.COP KILLER in PHILLY - around the " AYERS professors" door frame (WONDER IF obumer WILL release that FOLK HERO??). AND obumers/AYERS pictures AND I saw JOE THE PLUMBER and his son- father and a interview with Q/A.. I can't find REV WRONG -WHITE PREACHER HATER-FARACON-michele o bell-RISCO- money's funneled in the millions-- taxes-income nothing!! I remember DAN RATHER and the DUI OCT..BUSH attack-- this guy wrote a book of crack use--NOTHING not one question anywhere !!!!
they hide infor from ""YOU""" and ME!! WHY? I would be insulted if this was my team!!

[Pilgrim]

Originally Posted by RoadHooligan

So, I guess what you are saying is you won't be voiting for Obama.

That is your right. Good luck with your smear tactics.

Road Hooligan

Examination of his record is by no means "smear tactics". On the other hand, consider John Lewis's comments about McCain and Palin which falsely declare similarities between their campaign and that of George Wallace; there's a good example of smear tactics.