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[theBeemer]

Huh? The proof this one here? Huh? Are you so blinded with rage that you can't even type coherently?

Yours is always perfect

Out of all that I said in the previous post, this is the only thing you have to comment on? You dismiss everything else including the most plausible o Show any proof...I don't see it

Mainly, they're still whining. It happened, it shouldn't have, but it did. They can't seem to fathom that it happened by accident, because they were oh, so perfect (not, the Liberty and its crew made more than its share of mistakes) so it must be something that everyone is trying to cover up. Get over it fellas. Remember the Alamo!

Real easy for someone who wasn't there to say that..And turn it around on the crew like its their fault? If you hate my country, my Navy so much pack up and leave. Were you in college making peace sighns when it happened? The deads family's have you no respect for fellow Americans...Are you into picking up zionist crumbs so much? Your Pathetic..Move to Isreal where you belong....Unbeleaveable anyone would say such a stupid thing ....By the way tell your buddies to get over the halocaust,,unfair death is unfair weather its one or a million.Except that was 70 plus years ago not 40 YEA tell them when you move their..Take your commie peace sighns with you. HOW DARE YOU SAY A UNPROVOKED ATTACK ON A U S SHIP WAS THEIR FAULT.....GO TO ISREAL, OR CHINA. You make me and other Navy Vets sick Were you in service?At all? Or were you one of those rich college kids holding peace sighns and spitting on returning soldiers?,,You just spit on the USS Liberty Crew Go eat your crumbs

Yeah, I can. But why should I? I've shown proof of many other things, but you dismiss it all unless it coincides with your skewed version of reality and conspiracy. There is no reason for me to post proof of anything here, as history has shown me that it's a waste of my time. But, if you want to go hunting for it (not that's it hard to find in many places), it's to be found on the State Department's Web site. Go fetch.

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Top reason why????? You have none thats why can't prove it.If you did you would of..Wasting your time ...yea right a whole three seconds you could taken it...And you never did..SO PROVE IT..Your to funny...
It is fun arguing with you..I missed it when you ducked out about the 7 billion screw..You knew others started to see it and you backed out so your shylock buddies would not look worse

[theBeemer]

Another thing it was not an accident..But I am sure you know more the crew who was their....Where do you get off saying that..I don't care if don't apologise to me..But at least have the decent morals to apologise to the other vets reading this...Go back in you shell after words ok?

[Turtle]

Real easy for someone who wasn't there to say that..

You weren't there either.

And turn it around on the crew like its their fault?

I never said it was their fault. Not even once.

If you hate my country, my Navy so much pack up and leave.

I don't hate your country, or your Navy. Never said I did. BTW, it's my country, too.

Were you in college making peace sighns when it happened?

No, I had just graduated the third grade.

What were you doing in 1967?

The deads family's have you no respect for fellow Americans...Are you into picking up zionist crumbs so much?

Well, since I don't even know what a Zionist crumb is, I'm gonna have to say no on that one.

Your Pathetic..

Ouch. That hurt.

Move to Isreal where you belong....

I've said it before and I'll say it again, I could give a rat's aѕѕ about Israel.

Unbeleaveable anyone would say such a stupid thing ....

No, what's unbelievable is how you are able to tell me what I said, even when I didn't say it.

By the way tell your buddies to get over the halocaust,,unfair death is unfair weather its one or a million.

I agree. It happened, it shouldn't have, get over it and quit whining about it.

Except that was 70 plus years ago not 40 YEA tell them when you move their..

I'm not sure what 70 versus 40 has to do with anything.

Take your commie peace sighns with you.

I don't have any peace signs, commie or otherwise.

HOW DARE YOU SAY A UNPROVOKED ATTACK ON A U S SHIP WAS THEIR FAULT.....

I didn't say that, ya ignert idgit.

GO TO ISREAL, OR CHINA.

No.

You make me and other Navy Vets sick

Surprising that you and other Navy vets don't possess a little more intestinal fortitude than that.

Were you in service?At all?

Nope. I auditioned for, and was accepted into the Navy Band, though. But I opted for a full ride scholarship to college, instead. Not that any of that matters one way or the other.

Or were you one of those rich college kids holding peace sighns and spitting on returning soldiers?,,

Nope, didn't spit on anybody. BTW, that's another one people need to get over.

You just spit on the USS Liberty Crew

No I did't. All I did was fail to buy into the wacko conspiracy theories in the face of no less than seven separate investigations that all came up with essentially the same conclusions. In any case, it's time to let it go, cause no matter what, nothing will change what happened.

Go eat your crumbs

No.

Top reason why????? You have none thats why can't prove it.If you did you would of..Wasting your time ...yea right a whole three seconds you could taken it...And you never did..SO PROVE IT..Your to funny...

If I could prove it to you, what would you say then? Would you shut up about it and believe the proof, or would you dismiss it and continue to believe whatever it is you believe about it all? Why should I think that you'd accept whatever I provide as proof, considering that you have yet to do so about anything we have discussed thus far?

It is fun arguing with you..I missed it when you ducked out about the 7 billion screw..You knew others started to see it and you backed out so your shylock buddies would not look worse

You keep saying that I ducked out, yet I did, in fact, post several things concerning the buyout. Why do you keep pounding away at a lie?

Read the above line.Thats right you just hide behind your little computer and insult..You don't have the chutzpah for anything else

I won't say anything online, in an e-mail, or over the phone, that I wouldn't say to someone's face. As far as "anything else" goes, I'm not sure what you mean. I'd certainly say to your face any and everything I've said here. Otherwise, what's the point?

Another thing it was not an accident..

Is that a statement of fact, or merely what you believe? If it wasn't an accident, prove it. And posting other people's opinions will not qualify as proof.

[iceroadtrucker]

Throw all of them out

[theBeemer]

You weren't there either.

I never said it was their fault. Not even once.

I don't hate your country, or your Navy. Never said I did. BTW, it's my country, too.
My country is the USA , not Isreal..And yes anyone who is dumb enough to bad mouth vets doesn't belong here..



No, I had just graduated the third grade.

What were you doing in 1967?

Well, since I don't even know what a Zionist crumb is, I'm gonna have to say no on that one.

Ouch. That hurt.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, I could give a rat's aѕѕ about Israel.
That is a big lie,,,,you know it is. If you didn't care about it or the zionist shylocks running it you wouldn't come up with so much bs..let alone insult your host countries vets


No, what's unbelievable is how you are able to tell me what I said, even when I didn't say it.

I agree. It happened, it shouldn't have, get over it and quit whining about it.

I'm not sure what 70 versus 40 has to do with anything.

I don't have any peace signs, commie or otherwise.

I didn't say that, ya ignert idgit.

No.

Surprising that you and other Navy vets don't possess a little more intestinal fortitude than that.
Putting our lives on the line for ungratefull windbags takes more then what you could comprehend.

Nope. I auditioned for, and was accepted into the Navy Band, though. But I opted for a full ride scholarship to college, instead. Not that any of that matters one way or the other.

EXplains why your so full of hot air
Nope, didn't spit on anybody. BTW, that's another one people need to get over.

Well why don't you get in touch with Abbie Hoffman and gang along with Jane Fonda and Bunch apologise?

No I did't. All I did was fail to buy into the wacko conspiracy theories in the face of no less than seven separate investigations that all came up with essentially the same conclusions. In any case, If it's time to let it go, cause no matter what, nothing will change what happened.

No.

If I could prove it to you, what would you say then? Would you shut up about it and believe the proof, or would you dismiss it and continue to believe whatever it is you believe about it all? Why should I think that you'd accept whatever I provide as proof, considering that you have yet to do so about anything we have discussed thus far?
If you could ,I would..But you can't...And yes time after time I have...Go back to the Kosher Tax scam you defended so much...

You keep saying that I ducked out, yet I did, in fact, post several things concerning the buyout. Why do you keep pounding away at a lie?Yes you did





I won't say anything online, in an e-mail, or over the phone, that I wouldn't say to someone's face. As far as "anything else" goes, I'm not sure what you mean. I'd certainly say to your face any and everything I've said here. Otherwise, what's the point?

Yea right, Im sure you going to spit on me too?

Is that a statement of fact, or merely what you believe? If it wasn't an accident, prove it. And posting other people's opinions will not qualify as proof.

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A zionist crumb is the little bit of dried blood the vampires forgot to stock pile..
And yes you did say crew of the USS Liberty was at fault. Although a American intelligence ship is pretty hard to tell the difference between it and a Egyptian cattle ship..Especially one with BIG American flags all over it.
And yes you do owe Navy and Marine vets an apology for stating such a stupid thing
Still ask you find the proof where the Liberty crew was fault? Their is none. They were not. UNPROVOKED attack buy your buddies to try to get us into their war....They got away with it once whats to stop then from doing again?
And if you believe a person who is anti zionist is a anti semitic your a true fool. What about Jews who are anti Zionist,,,are they anti semitic? You never did answer that one after asking 4 times.
I truly believe your Un American... Vets like me made it so low life's can truly hate the USA.Let you talk your nonsense about us.
True your full ride scholarship does make a difference....You don't have clue what its like to be vet. Why don't you move away...
Why don't you tell Juan McCainstein or Obongo for that matter to get over the holocaust too..The first debate Old Juan said Never Again what 6 times in a row.?.Buy Obongos 4? Why don't you tell those clowns to put a the USA first instead of isreal first..
Really are you packing up to move to your country? How soon?

[Turtle]

My country is the USA , not Isreal..And yes anyone who is dumb enough to bad mouth vets doesn't belong here..

That's your personal opinion. And considering the fact that we have free speech in this country, it's a way wrong opinion.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, I could give a rat's aѕѕ about Israel.
That is a big lie,,,,you know it is. If you didn't care about it or the zionist shylocks running it you wouldn't come up with so much bs..let alone insult your host countries vets

Well, no, it's not a lie. I know that because I'm the one that said it and I'm the one that could care less about Israel. If you choose to not believe it, that's your problem, not mine. I'm not even sure what possible gain you have in believing the lie, but you do seem to desperately want to believe so many lies, I guess one more won't hurt.

Incidentally, please quote me where I insulted any vets (other than you, of course). You can't, can you?

Surprising that you and other Navy vets don't possess a little more intestinal fortitude than that.
Putting our lives on the line for ungratefull windbags takes more then what you could comprehend.

What a load of crap. Just because you served in the military doesn't absolve you from being a moron, nor does it mean that you can can spout idiocy with impunity. It's vets like you who are giving real vets a bad name.

Well why don't you get in touch with Abbie Hoffman and gang along with Jane Fonda and Bunch apologise?

Huh?

If you could ,I would..But you can't...And yes time after time I have...Go back to the Kosher Tax scam you defended so much...

If I could, you would, yet you haven't yet. The Kosher Tax scam is a good example, where I showed you that it (a) wasn't a tax and (b) isn't a scam, yet you continue to believe both. Continuing to believe a lie in the face of the truth is the mark of the mentally ill. You say, "Why is this Kosher and why is that Kosher?" using that as evidence for a scam, even after I and others have pointed out the reasons for certain products being Kosher certified. You dismissed it all out of hand because non of it supported your erroneous beliefs. That, again, is the mark of the mentally deficient.

A zionist crumb is the little bit of dried blood the vampires forgot to stock pile..

Dried blood? Vampires? What is the matter with you?

And yes you did say crew of the USS Liberty was at fault.

Give me a quote, please.

Although a American intelligence ship is pretty hard to tell the difference between it and a Egyptian cattle ship..Especially one with BIG American flags all over it.

Yeah, just like it's hard tell the difference between two American Blackhawk helicopters with great big American flags painted on the side from Iranian gunships, yet the US Air Force managed make that mistake, too. Where is your outrage over that? I had a friend on one of those Blackhawks.

And yes you do owe Navy and Marine vets an apology for stating such a stupid thing
Still ask you find the proof where the Liberty crew was fault? Their is none. They were not.

I never said the crew was at fault. Not once. Why do you keep on lying about that? I thought you military men had honor. You obviously have none.

UNPROVOKED attack buy your buddies to try to get us into their war....

You call in unprovoked, everyone else calls in an accident. In war time, shίt happens, and that's exactly what happened.

They got away with it once whats to stop then from doing again?

Here's one you can't answer. If they got away with it once, and since there's nothing stopping them from getting away with it again, why haven't they done it again?

[quote[And if you believe a person who is anti zionist is a anti semitic your a true fool.[/quote]
Not all anti-Zionists are anit-Semitic. You are, tho.

What about Jews who are anti Zionist,,,are they anti semitic?

Depends on how they manifest their anti-zionism. A Zionist is one who supports the notion of an independent state of Israel. Some Jews support that, some don't. Some Jews hate their ancestry to much that they they themselves becomes anti-Semitic.

You never did answer that one after asking 4 times.

By and large that's a meaningless question.

I truly believe your Un American... Vets like me made it so low life's can truly hate the USA.Let you talk your nonsense about us.

It's vets like you who give real vets a bad name. You want to be worshiped because you served. You want people to take everything you say as gospel because you served. 'Oh, Im so special because I served.' Well, yer not.

True your full ride scholarship does make a difference....You don't have clue what its like to be vet. Why don't you move away...

So now you have to have served in the military to live in this country? What kind of twisted little play are you performing here?

Incidentally, as for not having a clue, you're right in that I've never served so I don't know exactly what it was like, but, my dad was at Pearl on December 7, 1941 at the age of 15, lied about his age and enlisted a year later, served at many of the major battles in the South Pacific, and eventually became a CMC before the end of his 20 years in the Navy. Also, I was part of a geek team that worked on hard drive data recovery after the Oklahoma City Bombing, and spent five weeks doing the same thing at the Pentagon immediately after 911 to recover data necessary leading up to the invasion of Afghanistan. We bunked at the Pentagon and worked nearly 24/7 due to the drop-dead date of when it had to be completed, as lives depended upon the information we recovered.

So while I have never served, per se, the concepts of what it's like to be a vet and of serving my country is not exactly foreign to me.

Why don't you tell Juan McCainstein or Obongo for that matter to get over the holocaust too..

They never return my calls.

Why don't you tell those clowns to put a the USA first instead of isreal first..

Why, won't they listen to you whehn you tell them?

Really are you packing up to move to your country? How soon?

An honorable vet would never say that.

[theBeemer]

I would assume the moderator sent you a little note about attacks Mr. Turtle? Would you like my email and phone? Maybe we can meet and discuss it further? Know you have not gotten away with your insults p a l. I respect the moderators wishes..Lets meet sometime and you can talk all of your tuff guy talk right to my face ok?

[Turtle]

I would assume the moderator sent you a little note about attacks Mr. Turtle?

Sorry, no.

Would you like my email and phone? Maybe we can meet and discuss it further?

No thanks. I can't imagine that further discussions would be entertaining, enlightening, or productive.

Know you have not gotten away with your insults p a l. I respect the moderators wishes..Lets meet sometime and you can talk all of your tuff guy talk right to my face ok?

Kewl, another thinly veiled threat. Whatcha gonna do, beat me up 'cause you can't hack it intellectually?

Honor, Courage, Committment.

Those things actually mean something to most Navy veterans. It's a shame they lost all meaning with you. Hopefully one day you will understand their meaning and importance.

[OntarioVanMan]

Turtle..you are having waay too much fun with this....

Whats a Zionist anyways? A Jewish businessman?

Don't ya think if the Jewish or Zionists controlled the country they would have put a stop to all these muslums/Islams from immigrating here?

From what I've read this Zionist crap goes back as far as the 20's and still it goes on....

[layoutshooter]

There is a great line from a Kingston Trio song, (yeah, go ahead and laugh, I AM THAT old!)

It goes, "And I don't like anybody very much!!!" (anyone know the name of that song?, I do)


Perfect for this discussion.!!!

LOL, lighten up a bit. Let's get one thing straight. ALL polititions suck. They All lie. They ALL are out to line thier own pockets with the fruits of your labor. I just like to "Light" things up in here once and a while for a laugh. After all, it's all just a big joke, on you.

Layoutshooter

[Turtle]

Turtle..you are having waay too much fun with this....

It's what I live for.

[Moot]

There is a great line from a Kingston Trio song, (yeah, go ahead and laugh, I AM THAT old!)

It goes, "And I don't like anybody very much!!!" (anyone know the name of that song?, I do)

Layoutshooter

The Merry Minuet. I would list who the songwriter was but it may start something.

[layoutshooter]

You win a cookie MOOT!!! You must be at least 50 to know that one. The Kingston Trio did not like LBJ at all, they were one of the original anti-war groups and blamed LBJ for the mess. They were correct, LBJ was responsible. I did sort of agree with him on the stratigic side but not the tactical. We should have just finished it off right from the start. Would have keep the Soviets out. Oh well, it was a great song and they did it well. I guess you would remember the line, "EH too Charlie?" Layoutshooter

[Moot]

I guess you would remember the line, "EH too Charlie?" Layoutshooter

I'm over 50 but don't recall that line. I do remember the Kingston Trio's version of Seeger's Where Have All The Flowers Gone. Of course just about every folkie during the 60's covered that one. Thanks for the cookie!

[layoutshooter]

WOW, I got the Moot? What a day this is!!! LOL. It is a little tag line on the fade out on "MTA" one of my favorite "Trio" songs. Another little ditty in there during the banjo solo, "Kinda hurts my fingers". Seen them live in Japan, great show. So was B.B. King when he came. Layoutshooter