Iraqi War is all about oil!!

[arkjarhead]

If you have ever said this congrats you are 12 beers short of a six pack. If the war was really about oil why would we be paying more for it now than before the war started? Why wouldn't we be bombing the he!! out of everything over there, setting up oil wells and pipelines, and calling it "New Texas"? I mean if it was all about oil why wouldn't we kill em all and get the oil?

[greg334]

The war is about oil and with that I mean it is about stability and strength for our culture and our country. You know what the Iraqi culture is like, so I don't have to explain what the strength point is. The stability has to do with presents of force and of what we, the allies did for the people.

Like the people of Iran, who really look at us the United States, as a goal for the Persian nation, they want a chance to change their government themselves. They see what happened in Iraq, how we forced the Iraqis to choose their constitution, elect their government and the freedoms we gave to them. I think that this is why Israel and other countries have held off in moving towards Iran and why a large world community has been helping groups within to change.

[theBeemer]

The war is about oil and with that I mean it is about stability and strength for our culture and our country. You know what the Iraqi culture is like, so I don't have to explain what the strength point is. The stability has to do with presents of force and of what we, the allies did for the people.

O yea a great job their something like 1,000,000 plus civilians dead...Suicide bombings,shortage of medicine and food...How many kids were killed during the imbargo for shortage of medicine? Thousands of refugees scattered all over the world away from their families. Thats interesting it wasn't like that before.......And really what is their culture like???

Like the people of Iran, who really look at us the United States, as a goal for the Persian nation, they want a chance to change their government themselves. They see what happened in Iraq, how we forced the Iraqis to choose their constitution, elect their government and the freedoms we gave to them. I think that this is why Israel and other countries have held off in moving towards Iran and why a large world community has been helping groups within to change.

Does anyone really believe they want whats going on in Irag now? Would anyone in the world want that? The reason why they are holdiing off for the time being is getting troops and aircraft in place.....didn't go to well their in the Georgia did it? Wait till the US elections so they can have their smoke screen in place...Notice how conviently Iraq ( a country that lived through 12 years of sanctions IE old military technology among other things....Afganistan for some reason we can't find one little man in a country really not that big after hmmmmm 6 years??? But we found Hussien real quick huh? Maybe lets keep our troops and equipment there so we can scare /attack Iran...Iran is basically surrounded.. One little (Iraq) country is taking longer to subdue then Axis powers of WW2??? Lets keep troops and equipment there so when we attack Iran...Two or is three carrier attack forces in the Persian Gulf..Let alone the British troops and weapons and naval power..hmmmm NAW we are just going their to promote democracy Any bids on the ocean front Nebraska property I have for sale?

[greg334]

Now I know beemer, you really did fall for the BS propaganda.

I don't know, you may never been in the Middle East or even know an Iraqi if they bit you - so what you posted is right out of Moveon.org/Cindy Sheehan Foundations talking points, almost word for word.

The quote of the day has to be this one - "One little (Iraq) country is taking longer to subdue then Axis powers of WW2???"

Yeppers, right on.... it took us, the United States longer to 'subdue' the Iraqis than the Axis powers, kind of an ignorant statement that has been said before.

See you don't know history, even recent history which is got to be a result of public education.

Well to remind you, it took us, the allies less than one month to invade and topple the government. It took from that point in April of 2003 to 2008 to give back a country to the Iraqis which included rebuilding the infrastructure to let the people decide their government (or did you miss the complaining that they want to include religion in their constitution?)

But to put this in perspective to the second world war, it took us two years to prepare for the invasion of Europe. It took us about ten months to move from the shores of Normandy to Berlin. Then from 1945 to 1949 we controlled Germany completely, from 1949 to 1955 we occupide Germany. So what you are saying is BS because from the start of the war, 1939 to the end of occupation, 1955 we spent more time in Germany than we did in Iraq by 9 years. It took 9 years more to give Germany a country, and they were not considered backwards people by any means.

[arkjarhead]

Not only that Greg, but if you get right down to it why do you think we still have bases in Germany? Of course we wanted to be close to the Ruskies to in case anything boiled over there. I also think we set up permenant bases in Germany to see to it that things don't get crazy there like they did before. I mean we have only had to fight 2 world wars against them. Think about it. When my great uncles were fighting the Germans in Europe in World War 2 it is a good chance they were fighting some of the sons of the men their father (my great-grandfather) had fought against in World War 1. My grandpaw said his daddy told him something about being attached to a Gen. Blackjack Pershing's outfit in France and being on the front lines when the Armiticse was signed. Little history lesson.

[theBeemer]

Now I know beemer, you really did fall for the BS propaganda.

Actually you and your zionist friends bs, no I haven't

I don't know, you may never been in the Middle East or even know an Iraqi if they bit you - so what you posted is right out of Moveon.org/Cindy Sheehan Foundations talking points, almost word for word.

They annoy me as much as the conservatives do..Although I read one speech from Sheehan and it did make a little sence.Should I find it and post it here for you?.And you said I should open my mind....tsk tsk when are you going to? No Sir they discust me equally

I have the honor and privilege of being a Godfather to an Iraqi baby girl.Her Godmother is Palastinian.So yes I know them..That is why I get so fed up at Idoits who don't know any or who never been to the middle east acting like such zionist puppet know it alls.. Actually do you know any? Have you ever been anywhere near there?

The quote of the day has to be this one - "One little (Iraq) country is taking longer to subdue then Axis powers of WW2???"

Yeppers, right on.... it took us, the United States longer to 'subdue' the Iraqis than the Axis powers, kind of an ignorant statement that has been said before.

Your right invaded and toppled less then a month.AND we are still there till when????

See you don't know history, even recent history which is got to be a result of public education.

Well to remind you, it took us, the allies less than one month to invade and topple the government. It took from that point in April of 2003 to 2008 to give back a country to the Iraqis which included rebuilding the infrastructure to let the people decide their government (or did you miss the complaining that they want to include religion in their constitution?)

And we will be there till when? Who is paying for it in life and money.......Did I mention if we gave it back we will still be there till when??? And even your conservative commentaters acknowledge it is puppet government.

But to put this in perspective to the second world war, it took us two years to prepare for the invasion of Europe. It took us about ten months to move from the shores of Normandy to Berlin. Then from 1945 to 1949 we controlled Germany completely, from 1949 to 1955 we occupide Germany. So what you are saying is BS because from the start of the war, 1939 to the end of occupation, 1955 we spent more time in Germany than we did in Iraq by 9 years. It took 9 years more to give Germany a country, and they were not considered backwards people by any means.

Excuse me I should of said the killing was over in Germany and Japan..If I am not mistaken Rosenfelt committed the US on December 2 1941. Killing had stopped in 45 With the surrender of Japan..That is four years. And it has already been how many inn Iraq? And when we are getting out when??? You know when will it be when all of our troops come home to defend America in case something happens like maybe China/Russia starts a war???
Not to be the worlds police or zionist lapdogs....And our troops are the coming home when????
Do you really consider Iraq backwards? If you do then you truly are a zionist biggit...as stated early that looks down upon the goyim

[greg334]

“Your right invaded and toppled less then a month.AND we are still there till when????”

I still say you don't know history, even recent history which is got to be a result of public education.

To be exact you don’t even have a clue what is going on in Iraq today. The Iraqi government wants everyone to leave. We have to unless they agree to let us stay because we are operating under a UN resolution, not a declaration of war. When Bush said “mission accomplished” he was right, we did what we were allowed to do – change the government but also many forget that Clinton was the one who set the official US policy on Iraq which was to change the government of Iraq when we can, which also included invading it. They were under a truce, not a sovereign country as the excuse has been made, and they invaded Kuwait which forces them to this truce.

Also just an FYI, the war started in 1939, not 1941. We were at a de facto war with German since 1938, some of the underhanded stuff we were doing to them behind the scenes was really war time activities. The war’s end was not the end of the fighting and killing, by chance there were a lot of GIs killed in Japan and Germany up until the troops left in masse, which was started in 1946. The treatment of Japanese POWs were far better than the Germans got and the Russians didn’t give a d*mn about anyone, they still killed even more after the war – something like 2 million Germans never made it home.

The difference between Iraq and Germany is that Iraq’s rebuilding was accelerated at the expense of us, the people of the US. Germany had to pay us for the war and I think until the reunification of Germany, they were still paying us. The other difference is that once we ‘defeated’ Germany, we had complete control of the situation in regards to the borders and the people. Iraq we left the border open, we allowed Syria and Iran to send people and aid to help the ‘terrorists’ in Iraq and this is where the problem was. There was no Civil war, there was no big blow up between sects but the press and idiots have made it out to be a mess. Again if you don’t know, we may be out of there within a year or less.

At this point we are facing a bigger challenge in Afghanistan with Pakistan instability. I think even more troops there won’t help as much unless we get assurances from the new Pakistan government that they are in this too. But again if we bring all the troops home, well then we will end up hearing the complaints from the press and the left that we have too many troops. If we use them at the border, then we will have Mexico claiming that there is an impending invasion and bring the UN and world court in on the mess to get the troops off the border.



AND actually you have fallen for it all.



I had to ask my local liquid motive power dispensing owner about your being a god father to an Iraqi, seeing he just got back from Iraq to visit his family, he wants to know how are you a god father of an Iraqi when you are not Muslim?

[theBeemer]

“Your right invaded and toppled less then a month.AND we are still there till when????”

I still say you don't know history, even recent history which is got to be a result of public education

< By the way the public education insult I was right about you being of upscale, look down your nose, privillaged.By the way why has public education been dumbed down? Who controls the unions and all..I will be happy to find out for facts but we both know.
besides that your royal, pompus, arrogant highness who made you the authority???. You just stated to everyone that has a public school education how much more learned you are then us.and how below you the rest of us are.Brillant one there..Im sure the rest of the readers here will stand in line kiss your hand and bow down to you your grace.> What is your real name and title? His Highness
his grace the grand duke of Detoilet I meant Detroit

To be exact you don’t even have a clue what is going on in Iraq today. The Iraqi government wants everyone to leave. We have to unless they agree to let us stay because we are operating under a UN resolution, not a declaration of war. When Bush said “mission accomplished” he was right, we did what we were allowed to do – change the government but also many forget that Clinton was the one who set the official US policy on Iraq which was to change the government of Iraq when we can, which also included invading it. They were under a truce, not a sovereign country as the excuse has been made, and they invaded Kuwait which forces them to this truce.

UN? so we just pick and chose the resolutions we want? Or we shoved down their throats what were going to do anyway??? ANd why isn't there resolutions say change the goverment of Zimbaway.? Silly me no oil to get. Do you think they just invaded Kuwait because it was fun??? Or maybe the truth came out finally about horizontal drilling into Iraqs oil fields?hmmmmm O Yea Oil again..Maybe we should stop the genocide in Darfur....O yea no oil

Also just an FYI, the war started in 1939, not 1941. We were at a de facto war with German since 1938, some of the underhanded stuff we were doing to them behind the scenes was really war time activities. The war’s end was not the end of the fighting and killing, by chance there were a lot of GIs killed in Japan and Germany up until the troops left in masse, which was started in 1946. The treatment of Japanese POWs were far better than the Germans got and the Russians didn’t give a d*mn about anyone, they still killed even more after the war – something like 2 million Germans never made it home.

actually if you want to get down to it was 1933 Remember the Times artical I posted about Judea declares war on Germany....Then the proof which of the leaders Churchill, Rosenfelts, Stalin jewish roots...By the way facts can not be anti semitic...Lets see they declare war and lead the Goyim right into it to die..And yes it was more then two million and then Eisenhower (jewish mother) killed off another 1.7 million. who surrenderd..Let alone toward the end of the war when Churchill (jewish mother). was in charge of killing 500000 just mostly women children and old refugees..No military reason to bomb the wooden city with firebombs...

The difference between Iraq and Germany is that Iraq’s rebuilding was accelerated at the expense of us, the people of the US. Germany had to pay us for the war and I think until the reunification of Germany, they were still paying us. The other difference is that once we ‘defeated’ Germany, we had complete control of the situation in regards to the borders and the people. Iraq we left the border open, we allowed Syria and Iran to send people and aid to help the ‘terrorists’ in Iraq and this is where the problem was. There was no Civil war, there was no big blow up between sects but the press and idiots have made it out to be a mess. Again if you don’t know, we may be out of there within a year or less.

Why on earth the greatest superpower the world has ever know would not secure the borders.hhmmmm Would lets keep the war machine going have anything to do with it? Maybe a year or less...how about after Iran is pacified? That would make more sence huh? After all we still haven't found Bin Laden in a country really no bigger then Florida.Lets see troops , air bases, equipment surronding Iran???? Let alone fleets in Persian Gulf....Don't worry Greg the government should be toppled their fairly quick to..Or will it. Why don't we send Yours and the rest of armchair Generals who never even went to boyscouts families and friends to find out.. I am tired of my friends dying for this zionsit oil war..Yea lets send yours .

At this point we are facing a bigger challenge in Afghanistan with Pakistan instability. I think even more troops there won’t help as much unless we get assurances from the new Pakistan government that they are in this too. But again if we bring all the troops home, well then we will end up hearing the complaints from the press and the left that we have too many troops. If we use them at the border, then we will have Mexico claiming that there is an impending invasion and bring the UN and world court in on the mess to get the troops off the border.

Again for the most part we can care less about the UN unless it full fills The USA ad Israels purposes.Again our troops should be defending our country. I don't see any other country's troops defending us?....By the way why did our Air Force give 5000 talibans a free lift out of Afghanistan? What was the purpose?



AND actually you have fallen for it all.

Looking at all your posting you really called that wrong..Everything the zionist have spewed through their media control.... you like a parrot repeat it all..Almost word for word.

I had to ask my local liquid motive power dispensing owner about your being a god father to an Iraqi, seeing he just got back from Iraq to visit his family, he wants to know how are you a god father of an Iraqi when you are not Muslim?

IS that same one you gave the derogatory comments about in a earlier posting? I don't know, how can a jew be a Godfather of a Christain? Yes I have seen this. Remember when I said its a shame working stiffs who are jewish end up being mistreated because of their tribes actions?And people like you who blindly defend every horrible thing they do? A true story....my dad has a friend in the city band he plays in who is jewish..And he honestly is ashamed of hurt and scams the zionist do.. And believe me their is more then him who feel that way. They get punished by the Goyim in stores in business..You know all the slang and sayings, you should your of them, not your Top Dogs who could care less about them.

I don't need to tell you what happens and the sayings do I?