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    Obama " change, change.change

    I'm tired of "change" at the fuel pump!! Obama- my truck doesn't run on wind,solar, or any other green thing!! I can see the future that your "change" will pass thru my wallet!! Limo riding nancy pelosi has a track record since elected on "CHANGE"-drilling absolutely OFF LIMITS! WAKE UP AMERICA!! BARK AT Speaker Nancy Pelosi.

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    Re: Obama " change, change.change

    I have all the change I need. i don't need any more pennies nickles or dimes.

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    Re: Obama " change, change.change

    yep, won't matter which one of the two get in....they'll raise taxes and all you'll have left is "Change"
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    Re: Obama " change, change.change

    Change the two party joke...errr I mean system

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    This here post about Republicans or Demos being President can be compared with many a fleet owner. They want 2 people in a Truck vice just one to possibly get that one extra run squeezed out maybe to incerease there bottom line. But in reality Its the driver thats suffers. Much like it is out here now. High fuel TAX TAX TAX Low Freight Rates and Less money. Yup
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    Re: Obama " change, change.change

    Quote Originally Posted by iceroadtrucker View Post
    This here post about Republicans or Demos being President can be compared with many a fleet owner. They want 2 people in a Truck vice just one to possibly get that one extra run squeezed out maybe to incerease there bottom line. But in reality Its the driver thats suffers. Much like it is out here now. High fuel TAX TAX TAX Low Freight Rates and Less money. Yup
    None of the Above.
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    you here about the fair-tax proposial in MI, it would do away with Income tax,and bussiness tax and no tax for business to business. would raise tax sales tax to .09 cents per dollar.So all those canadaians,allians,and tourest would all be paying tax. that they been not paying for all these years...fairtax.com.. that would be a bonus for the o/o in michigan..

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    Re: Obama " change, change.change

    Quote Originally Posted by godslove139 View Post
    you here about the fair-tax proposial in MI, it would do away with Income tax,and bussiness tax and no tax for business to business. would raise tax sales tax to .09 cents per dollar.So all those canadaians,allians,and tourest would all be paying tax. that they been not paying for all these years...fairtax.com.. that would be a bonus for the o/o in michigan..

    Ah hum....EVERYONE pays the Mi. sales tax..even us Canadians,...
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    Re: Obama " change, change.change

    Quote Originally Posted by godslove139 View Post
    you here about the fair-tax proposial in MI, it would do away with Income tax,and bussiness tax and no tax for business to business. would raise tax sales tax to .09 cents per dollar.So all those canadaians,allians,and tourest would all be paying tax. that they been not paying for all these years...fairtax.com.. that would be a bonus for the o/o in michigan..
    Well as a Michigan resident, I would rather see this;

    Do away with the property tax.

    Raise the sales tax to 8 cents.

    Then do away with income and business tax.

    Raise the sales tax to 10 cents.

    Doing away with the property tax will help the economy, getting people back into this state to buy property - but wait until I buy mine....

    Doing away with the income and business tax will add even more incentive to have people move and start businesses in the state.....

    BUT it will never happen.......

    Because....

    .....we have stupid (not ignorant, not dumb but STUPID) people living in the state and voting for people who are ruining the state - Granholm is one who should never have been reelected and it looks like you can lie under oath and get away with it in the city of Detroit. Not to mention that we the people have yet understood the need to vote in others for seats that have been held for years (fo example Dingell who by the way wants to see fuel taxes go up even though it would hurt his district)

    ....we have a really strong teachers union which has driven property taxes up and we can't get by them just to fire some teachers in the state.

    So it would be great to have these two things happen, the state would grow and we would be back on track instead of in the scrap yard.

    Oh the other thing, we can also claim the great lakes as an enterprise zone and drill for oil, there is enough under the water to let exploration happen.
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    We got plenty of change after the last election.
    Look where oil prices were
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    Re: Obama " change, change.change

    Quote Originally Posted by EagleRiverWI View Post
    We got plenty of change after the last election.
    Look where oil prices were
    Good point. We hear plenty of blame being laid at the White House steps for economic issues. Not that I have always agreed with the President. But, since Congress has more power and the Dems have controlled both the House and the Senate for the last 2 years... There is prolly enough blame to go around for everybody.

    The thing that really gets me is all the peeps being led along the change path. Its almost like they assume changing something automatically means there will be an improvement.
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    Well here are two scary things....

    The same campaign was done with Carter in '76, he went around saying the same thing - we need change from the what has led us to this point which resulted in Regan.

    Several are comparing Obama to RFK. I am not a fan of RFK, I don't fall into the trap that he was all that great, he did things while he was AG that are far worst than Bush ever thought of BUT the point is he did nothing as a senator and like Obama has zero experience or brings any real assets to the country.
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    "And like Obama has zero experience or brings any real assets to the country."

    He's a smooth talker...what else does it take?....Lobby groups control Congress, Congress controls the President....Advisors out the kazoo....he might do ok.....
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    Re: Obama " change, change.change

    Quote Originally Posted by EagleRiverWI View Post
    I have all the change I need. i don't need any more pennies nickles or dimes.
    Under Clinton, I had plenty of Dollars in my pocket! It was Bush that reduced it to chump change! Get a clue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EagleRiverWI View Post
    We got plenty of change after the last election.
    Look where oil prices were
    Perhaps we need a president that does more than dance with the Saudi Prince. Perhaps we need a president that is not afraid to talk to him. Perhaps we need a president that is not lining his pockets with the profits of the oil companies. Think!

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    I know of 3000 AMERICANS PLUS additional MILITARY who will have a different outlook on the clinton brainwash media years.

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