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    Re: Ron Paul Exposed

    Ratwell,

    I am going to focus on one issue - taxes.

    I saw three entire interviews with him and he said exactly what I said, he had no real solution and even with the link you posted, he was clear that he wants to 'examine' what we did before 1913 when we had corporate taxes and other tariffs and taxes that we can't have today. There is no plan and that scares me. If he would embrace the Fair Tax, I could see more people flocking to his campaign but than again if McCain got smart, he would also embrace it and he would get elected.

    I agree with what he is saying about liberties and so on but this one issue is key to all of us and for someone who says just git ride of it, plays the same way that Obama and Hillary plays the emotional card with their "followers".

    The idea came from the libertarian party to move things from the bottom up, so you start with local elections and move up. I for one am a Classic Liberal, so they are the closes to my ideals - but not with legalized drugs until we have a justice system that works for the victims and not the criminals.

    As I said before, the president means nothing. If you and others want to see a Ron Paul president, you got to change the congress, not the media. Without changes in congress, there will be no changes in the country, he can try but he will never get anywhere. The media is one of the problems but the bigger one is getting people to think logically and to act in a manner that invokes others to act to vote the incumbents out, like Dingell (50 plus years as a representative?). The IN YOUR FACE protesting and activism lost out to the people who are much more mature and sophisticated and if you notice Obama is running his campaign targeting them.
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    Re: Ron Paul Exposed

    Quote Originally Posted by Tennesseahawk View Post
    Is that when you decided to become a Colts fan?

    I'm sorry. But I vote for my convictions. If a certain candidate happens to have those same convictions then HE/SHE gets my vote. Neither McCain nor Obama has EARNED my vote; so they will not get it. Plain and simple.

    If more ppl thought that way, officials wouldn't be corrupt, as they would be held accountable.
    LOL I became a fan before they won the big show.

    I vote my convictions too. But, unfortunately (in my opinion) we have to make a choice between the viable candidates and usually that means taking the lesser of the evils. Otherwise, I dont see any significant level of participation by peeps like me.

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    Re: Ron Paul Exposed

    Quote Originally Posted by Jayman View Post
    LOL I became a fan before they won the big show.

    I vote my convictions too. But, unfortunately (in my opinion) we have to make a choice between the viable candidates and usually that means taking the lesser of the evils. Otherwise, I dont see any significant level of participation by peeps like me.
    I should've noticed they're your hometown team. LOL

    I'm tired of voting for the lesser of two evils. I refuse to vote for evil, period! We have the choice of the faster road to tyranny or the slower road to tyranny. I'll stick to the Constitution, thank you, and vote my conscience.

    McCain has made it clear he neither wants or needs my vote. I'll do my best to oblige him.
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    Re: Ron Paul Exposed

    Quote Originally Posted by Tennesseahawk View Post
    I should've noticed they're your hometown team. LOL

    I'm tired of voting for the lesser of two evils. I refuse to vote for evil, period! We have the choice of the faster road to tyranny or the slower road to tyranny. I'll stick to the Constitution, thank you, and vote my conscience.

    McCain has made it clear he neither wants or needs my vote. I'll do my best to oblige him.
    LOL Im a homer, guilty as charged.

    I dont like voting for the lesser of 2 evils either. Im not sure what the answer is. Maybe do away with having political partys. Or, keep the partys and do away with the primarys and whoever gains the most votes in 1 single election wins.

    But until then, the only way for me to effectively participate in elections is for me to only consider those who really have a chance of winning. If I am not happy with those 2 or maybe 3 candidates...I only have 2 options. Stay at home and not vote at all or vote for somebody who I really agree with who has no chance of winning. Either of those choices will only help elect one of the candidates I didnt approve of anyway. So, if I am going to end up electing somebody who I dont want anyway...I might just as well help the one who is the best of the worst. If that makes any sense. lol

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    Re: Ron Paul Exposed

    Problem for Paul is he falls victim to Propaganda from FOX and CNN and the American Sheeple take it all in.

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