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    Hey All You Sarah Palin Disciples....


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    Quote Originally Posted by letzrockexpress View Post
    And so is Obumma, So What's Your Point? All Politicians are Liars and That's a Sad Thing!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poorboy View Post
    And so is Obumma, So What's Your Point? All Politicians are Liars and That's a Sad Thing!
    some are smart enough to not get caught....some are just plain stupid...

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    Re: Hey All You Sarah Palin Disciples....

    Guess what?
    Who cares if she or anyone else said it. It is a system just like the ones talked about in many dystopian novels.

    The fact that this is happening now matters, like the Netherlands, Sweden and even in England where decisions are being made to restrict care so people can pass on "in dignety". It is a fact, not made up by anyone here in the states.

    Just look at Oregon and assisted suicides, isn't it odd that the state officials have come out and said it is cheaper to use the drugs to kill someone than to help them live longer? If this is not rationed healthcare, then what is.
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    Re: Hey All You Sarah Palin Disciples....

    ALL polititions are LIARS Rocket, that is why I want EVERY incumbent GONE in 2010 and 2012.!! NO one in office today, including Obama, can be trusted. They ALL have to go.

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    Re: Hey All You Sarah Palin Disciples....

    Quote Originally Posted by layoutshooter View Post
    ALL polititions are LIARS Rocket, that is why I want EVERY incumbent GONE in 2010 and 2012.!! NO one in office today, including Obama, can be trusted. They ALL have to go.

    wow..something new from you. how about that.

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    New? From me? I think you are VERY mistaken. I have ALWAYs said that ALL polititions are liars. I have ALWAYS said to vote them all out. I don't like either the Dumb-O-Crats OR the ReBumLiCans!! You must have just taken off your rose colored glasses for the first time!! LOL!!!

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    Re: Hey All You Sarah Palin Disciples....

    Quote Originally Posted by greg334 View Post
    Guess what?
    Who cares if she or anyone else said it. It is a system just like the ones talked about in many dystopian novels.

    The fact that this is happening now matters, like the Netherlands, Sweden and even in England where decisions are being made to restrict care so people can pass on "in dignety". It is a fact, not made up by anyone here in the states.

    Just look at Oregon and assisted suicides, isn't it odd that the state officials have come out and said it is cheaper to use the drugs to kill someone than to help them live longer? If this is not rationed healthcare, then what is.
    The point is these alleged "death panels" oficially known as End Of Life Counseling have been around for many years. If you've ever had a loved one who is or has succumbed to a terminal illness you likely know this first hand. This controversy is one huge lie about something that is meant to bring comfort to a person going through the process of dying and their family losing a loved one. Considerations such as living wills, etc. are handled during this time. This isn't just spin, it's outright lies and it DOES matter to me who said it.

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    Re: Hey All You Sarah Palin Disciples....

    Quote Originally Posted by layoutshooter View Post
    New? From me? I think you are VERY mistaken. I have ALWAYs said that ALL polititions are liars. I have ALWAYS said to vote them all out. I don't like either the Dumb-O-Crats OR the ReBumLiCans!! You must have just taken off your rose colored glasses for the first time!! LOL!!!
    Apparently sarcasm is lost on you...

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    Rocket, the difference is that now it is NOT Government mandated or controlled. IF the government gets involved it WILL get out of had sometime in the future. My health care is my CHOICE and I wll NOT allow ANY politition to dictate ANY part of it. I think that makes that pretty clear. I bet ever Obama would get my drift. As hard as that may seem to believe.

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    Re: Hey All You Sarah Palin Disciples....

    Quote Originally Posted by layoutshooter View Post
    Rocket, the difference is that now it is NOT Government mandated or controlled. IF the government gets involved it WILL get out of had sometime in the future. My health care is my CHOICE and I wll NOT allow ANY politition to dictate ANY part of it. I think that makes that pretty clear. I bet ever Obama would get my drift. As hard as that may seem to believe.
    Yes, I agree wholeheartedly with what you just said, however what you just said has absolutely nothing to do with death panels, which is what I was talking about.

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    In a way it does. I worry that one day, far down the road, that that MANDATED councilling will morph into those "Death Squads". It is a valid concern when dealing with any government given the track record of governments. They all become oppressive. I will not GIVE them the inch so that they can take the mile latter. I DO NOT TRUST THEM!!

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    Re: Hey All You Sarah Palin Disciples....

    Quote Originally Posted by layoutshooter View Post
    In a way it does. I worry that one day, far down the road, that that MANDATED councilling will morph into those "Death Squads". It is a valid concern when dealing with any government given the track record of governments. They all become oppressive. I will not GIVE them the inch so that they can take the mile latter. I DO NOT TRUST THEM!!

    It must really suck to be so paranoid....

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    Very funny, I just have read too much history, seen too much in Eastern Europe and can see far too many very bad things going on in our OWN government. History repeats itself because too many people bury their head in the sand thinking that it will not happen again. Instead of slapping down your same tired line about paranoria maybe you should think from different angles for a change. My beliefs are as valid as anybodys and base on most likely more study than most.

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    Re: Hey All You Sarah Palin Disciples....

    Quote Originally Posted by layoutshooter View Post
    Instead of slapping down your same tired line about paranoria maybe you should think from different angles for a change. My beliefs are as valid as anybodys and base on most likely more study than most.
    Your opinions are every bit as valid as anyone else's, I totally agree. Whatever it is they are based on, to me, is questionable...

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