This is a tale of US expansion not Russian aggression

**layoutshooter** · 08-18-2008, 11:19 AM

It is a waste. The hunting and fishing is WONDERFUL where I live. SE Michigan, 8 miles from the Ohio line, near Toledo. There is no better walleye (Pikerel for you Canadians) fishing anywhere in the world. Fantastic smallmouth and perch fishing. Not to mention the pan fish pike and muskie. I hunt duck here too, hence the name Layoutshooter. A VERY special type of duck hunting that was invented in this area. I have taken one deer down here too, a couple of years ago but it is not where I normally hunt deer. Layoutshooter

**theBeemer** · 08-26-2008, 12:55 AM

Originally Posted by greg334

This entire article and the author’s credibility was ruined by this paragraph.

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Originally Posted by Seumas Milne
Could these by any chance be the leaders of the same governments that in 2003 invaded and occupied - along with Georgia, as luck would have it - the sovereign state of Iraq on a false pretext at the cost of hundreds of thousands of lives? Or even the two governments that blocked a ceasefire in the summer of 2006 as Israel pulverised Lebanon's infrastructure and killed more than a thousand civilians in retaliation for the capture or killing of five soldiers?

This entire article and the author’s credibility was ruined by this paragraph.
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How is that? Because the truth was told...? Yea I know it says in this book how we (Goyim Sheeple) are suppose to be sub servant to the Khazarrs I meant Gods Chosen.ya ya ya

**theBeemer** · 08-26-2008, 12:57 AM

Ties in with it

Is Not Western
Hypocrisy Astonishing?
By Patrick J. Buchanan
8-16-8

Mikheil Saakashvili's decision to use the opening of the Olympic Games to cover Georgia's invasion of its breakaway province of South Ossetia must rank in stupidity with Gamal Abdel-Nasser's decision to close the Straits of Tiran to Israeli ships.

Nasser's blunder cost him the Sinai in the Six-Day War. Saakashvili's blunder probably means permanent loss of South Ossetia and Abkhazia.

After shelling and attacking what he claims is his own country, killing scores of his own Ossetian citizens and sending tens of thousands fleeing into Russia, Saakashvili's army was whipped back into Georgia in 48 hours.

Vladimir Putin took the opportunity to kick the Georgian army out of Abkhazia, as well, to bomb Tbilisi and to seize Gori, birthplace of Stalin.

Reveling in his status as an intimate of George Bush, Dick Cheney and John McCain, and America's lone democratic ally in the Caucasus, Saakashvili thought he could get away with a lightning coup and present the world with a fait accompli.

Mikheil did not reckon on the rage or resolve of the Bear.

American charges of Russian aggression ring hollow. Georgia started this fight * Russia finished it. People who start wars don't get to decide how and when they end.

Russia's response was "disproportionate" and "brutal," wailed Bush.

True. But did we not authorize Israel to bomb Lebanon for 35 days in response to a border skirmish where several Israel soldiers were killed and two captured? Was that not many times more "disproportionate"?

Russia has invaded a sovereign country, railed Bush. But did not the United States bomb Serbia for 78 days and invade to force it to surrender a province, Kosovo, to which Serbia had a far greater historic claim than Georgia had to Abkhazia or South Ossetia, both of which prefer Moscow to Tbilisi?

Is not Western hypocrisy astonishing?

When the Soviet Union broke into 15 nations, we celebrated. When Slovenia, Croatia, Macedonia, Bosnia, Montenegro and Kosovo broke from Serbia, we rejoiced. Why, then, the indignation when two provinces, whose peoples are ethnically separate from Georgians and who fought for their independence, should succeed in breaking away?

Are secessions and the dissolution of nations laudable only when they advance the agenda of the neocons, many of whom viscerally detest Russia?

That Putin took the occasion of Saakashvili's provocative and stupid stunt to administer an extra dose of punishment is undeniable. But is not Russian anger understandable? For years the West has rubbed Russia's nose in her Cold War defeat and treated her like Weimar Germany.

When Moscow pulled the Red Army out of Europe, closed its bases in Cuba, dissolved the evil empire, let the Soviet Union break up into 15 states, and sought friendship and alliance with the United States, what did we do?

American carpetbaggers colluded with Muscovite Scalawags to loot the Russian nation. Breaking a pledge to Mikhail Gorbachev, we moved our military alliance into Eastern Europe, then onto Russia's doorstep. Six Warsaw Pact nations and three former republics of the Soviet Union are now NATO members.

Bush, Cheney and McCain have pushed to bring Ukraine and Georgia into NATO. This would require the United States to go to war with Russia over Stalin's birthplace and who has sovereignty over the Crimean Peninsula and Sebastopol, traditional home of Russia's Black Sea fleet.

When did these become U.S. vital interests, justifying war with Russia?

The United States unilaterally abrogated the Anti-Ballistic Missile treaty because our technology was superior, then planned to site anti-missile defenses in Poland and the Czech Republic to defend against Iranian missiles, though Iran has no ICBMs and no atomic bombs. A Russian counter-offer to have us together put an anti-missile system in Azerbaijan was rejected out of hand.

We built a Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan pipeline from Azerbaijan through Georgia to Turkey to cut Russia out. Then we helped dump over regimes friendly to Moscow with democratic "revolutions" in Ukraine and Georgia, and tried to repeat it in Belarus.

Americans have many fine qualities. A capacity to see ourselves as others see us is not high among them.

Imagine a world that never knew Ronald Reagan, where Europe had opted out of the Cold War after Moscow installed those SS-20 missiles east of the Elbe. And Europe had abandoned NATO, told us to go home and become subservient to Moscow.

How would we have reacted if Moscow had brought Western Europe into the Warsaw Pact, established bases in Mexico and Panama, put missile defense radars and rockets in Cuba, and joined with China to build pipelines to transfer Mexican and Venezuelan oil to Pacific ports for shipment to Asia? And cut us out? If there were Russian and Chinese advisers training Latin American armies, the way we are in the former Soviet republics, how would we react? Would we look with bemusement on such Russian behavior?

For a decade, some of us have warned about the folly of getting into Russia's space and getting into Russia's face. The chickens of democratic imperialism have now come home to roost * in Tbilisi.

Copyright © 2008 Creators Syndicate

**greg334** · 08-26-2008, 01:34 AM

You just don't get it.

Please study Russian history.

Buchanan is wrong on a bunch of points and to sit here and pick them all out to explain them to you is just a lesson in futility, because you just don't get it. You put too much BS spin into this conspricy junk that has been floating around for decades and you think everything is original thinking in the last 50 years. Amazing.... why can't you come up with an original thought?

Learn your enemy, learn who is calling the shots over there and learn what the real truth is about Georgia, Russia and Chechnya - there is something about lost pride with the Russians and the events that are unfolding.

As for the credibility of the author as copied by OVM, the paragraph I copied and highlighted that you forgot to copy from my post has two points, one was Iraq, which the author is using the same propaganda as most who want to stay ignorant to the fact, and the other is the stupid statement that pretty much says Israel has no right to defned itself. I for one wanted to see Israel complete the job and wipe Hamas completely off the face of the earth, but again I bet you that you support Hamas in that fight.

**theBeemer** · 08-26-2008, 02:16 AM

Originally Posted by greg334

You just don't get it.

Please study Russian history.

Buchanan is wrong on a bunch of points and to sit here and pick them all out to explain them to you is just a lesson in futility, because you just don't get it. You put too much BS spin into this conspricy junk that has been floating around for decades and you think everything is original thinking in the last 50 years. Amazing.... why can't you come up with an original thought?

Learn your enemy, learn who is calling the shots over there and learn what the real truth is about Georgia, Russia and Chechnya - there is something about lost pride with the Russians and the events that are unfolding.

As for the credibility of the author as copied by OVM, the paragraph I copied and highlighted that you forgot to copy from my post has two points, one was Iraq, which the author is using the same propaganda as most who want to stay ignorant to the fact, and the other is the stupid statement that pretty much says Israel has no right to defned itself. I for one wanted to see Israel complete the job and wipe Hamas completely off the face of the earth, but again I bet you that you support Hamas in that fight.

Actually I have studied Russian /Slavic History and I do get it. You can try to degrade me about the conspiracy junk and all..But did you even know what a Khazar is? Probably never heard of it. And Pat Buchanan I don't agree with everything but I do agree on somethings. Israel has attacked so many since 1948 it would take a long time to mention it all. But as as the Sheeple say says here in this book. Blinded by what a few
(Preachers) have it to fit for their own agenda. Not all some actually believe it and are not aware of the world around them
I wonder if Hamas owned 96 percent of the world media would you and others like you say the same thing about the zionist?
We get bombarded every day about crazy Arabs and blah blah blah. What if the shoe was on the other foot.. How about every day Crazy jews shoot and bomb Arabs just cause they want to..
No I don't support Hamas I don't think their would even be one or any group if the zionist were not so demanding,cruel, and brutal. Not just to the men fighters but the whole population.
They learned quite well from the Nazis on how to terrify people, torture, and other brutal tactics......With my tax dollar.
Demand more money from my country USA. Have a kosher tax on a bag of chips let alone bottle of bleach. Why should I have to pay a kosher tax? I could care less if the sandwich bags I buy are kosher.Why is it so many are afraid to answer that?
Why haven't you answered that? Your so smart or claim to be. I am sure you and I together are as educated as the man who is on tv and newsprint who gets paid 5/6 figures a years while we hold steering wheels trying to make ends meet. And if I or others speak out against the horrible way innocents are treated we are at best dismissed..Your Conspiracy theory thing the last 50 years, or anti sametic. Or redneck, trailer trash blah blah blah
When the Native American Lakota where defending their families, their life style, their families traditions, it is considered noble today. Back then they were treated like the Arabs are today. So take a look at history how the USA is judged in these matters. Try a glimpse into the future how the USA and Israel will be judged 100 years from now.

**OntarioVanMan** · 08-26-2008, 09:39 AM

long dog fight...democracy vs communism...

**greg334** · 08-26-2008, 04:23 PM

Originally Posted by OntarioVanMan

long dog fight...democracy vs communism...

OVM, it goes much deeper than that. Russia is testing the waters, they are dragging their feet on both action and rhetoric - as usual.

Well Bleemer, my computer crashed again while I was replying to you. It must be some Zionists trying to prevent me from replying.

Look all you speak of is propaganda, it all comes from a few sources and it is the same stuff with a different wrapper.

If the Zionist controlled the media, we would have every bit of pro-Israeli news on the tube, in print and on the radio. We would have true censorship, Carter's BS book would have not been printed, he would not have been elected either for that matter, so the validity of your foundation is flawed. For that matter, if there was any semblance of a Zionist movement to take over the world, we would not have the UN condemning Israel, but also condemn the killings of Jews, Christians, Moderate Muslims, Hindi, Buddhist in Africa, Middle East and Asia but they don't.

AND if you studied Russian history at any length, you would know that propaganda can be a powerful thing and Stalin, Beria and others used it well during the 30's. If you had some of the history classes like I had, you would have heard this;

."...it don't matter what the people think, we will tell them what to think. They will believe that it is a fascist movement within the government who has done this to them...."

You know that, right? Oh you don't recall in your history classes that a lot of people believed that Stalin had nothing to do with their pending death but in fact signed off on it, only to die saying his name.

**Pilgrim** · 08-26-2008, 06:21 PM

Here's a little different take on this subject in an article by Dick Morris:

HITLER INVADED SUDETENLAND; NOW PUTIN INVADES SOUTH OSSETIA at DickMorris.com

I'm not sure we should be getting too involved with these types of squabbles over there, but in the other hand Putin needs to know there are limits. The main thing we need to be concerned about is our missle defense system in Poland. If we should be picking our fights over there, maybe that's the one to pick instead of one about some obscure province in Georgia.

**theBeemer** · 08-26-2008, 08:04 PM

Originally Posted by greg334

OVM, it goes much deeper than that. Russia is testing the waters, they are dragging their feet on both action and rhetoric - as usual.

Well Bleemer, my computer crashed again while I was replying to you. It must be some Zionists trying to prevent me from replying.
Chee Greggy you don't need to belittle me. Much smarter and educated people then you have tried and failed. BY the way when ever you want to meet and be little me face to face like a man I am all for it, Will be happy to arrange it, By the way are you honestly a vet?

Look all you speak of is propaganda, it all comes from a few sources and it is the same stuff with a different wrapper.

If the Zionist controlled the media, we would have every bit of pro-Israeli news on the tube, in print and on the radio. We would have true censorship,

Ya think maybe they just might toss a little in so they can pull the wool over the eyes of the sheeple?

Carter's BS book would have not been printed, he would not have been elected either for that matter, so the validity of your foundation is flawed.

Carter was elected before the complete dominance of the media. I can show you jewish owned and published black nationalist books in print if you want. Go to a bookstore or library where they have allot of books and look around if their is a way to make a buck in the USA it will be found. And that is your opininion on Carter's book I haven't read it yet...But opinions are just like ------- every one has one and they usally stink. Funny thing that dumb hick was right on with energy policy..We wouldn't be in Iraq now if we would of listened.

For that matter, if there was any semblance of a Zionist movement to take over the world, we would not have the UN condemning Israel, but also condemn the killings of Jews, Christians, Moderate Muslims, Hindi, Buddhist in Africa, Middle East and Asia but they don't.

Why don't you read all 24 protocals of zionism and then come back with your vast knowledge..Actually protocol 12 and tell us all about it with your insight, your brillance,your thought provoking typing skills. I will ask you about it next posting ..As matter of fact why have you are anyone else not told me why I am paying a kosher tax on cleaning chemcicals, ketchup, plastic bags etc...WHY IS THAT O ENLIGHTENED ONE?

AND if you studied Russian history at any length, you would know that propaganda can be a powerful thing and Stalin, Beria and others used it well during the 30's. If you had some of the history classes like I had, you would have heard this

;Really I bet no one figured that one out...Cheee I wonder if the USA and the rest of the countries involved did?? I bet your the only one who knows that. I bet you have Harvard education

."...it don't matter what the people think, we will tell them what to think. They will believe that it is a fascist movement within the government who has done this to them...."

actually Greggy you fall into this quite well. Amazing huh? But I think it should go it does not matter. Not it do not matter I would thin someone with such brillance,enlightenment entertaining, and thought provoking as would use proper grammer...But hey I am just a truck driver

You know that, right? Oh you don't recall in your history classes that a lot of people believed that Stalin had nothing to do with their pending death but in fact signed off on it, only to die saying his name.

actually I had already posted about this...shall I again?

Well Greggy or is it Gregory?
I can repost the links of how Zionist control 96 percent of our media and if chose not to open your eyes to fact don't bother trying to argue. Their is so much zionist proganda divide and conquer is what they call it..But I bet your way to intelligent to see that

**greg334** · 08-26-2008, 09:23 PM

Belittle you? if you want, I can but I haven’t.

What I am trying to do is to show you how stupid this stuff all sounds and how little is actually factual.

Carter was elected before the complete dominance of the media. I can show you jewish owned and published black nationalist books in print if you want. Go to a bookstore or library where they have allot of books and look around if their is a way to make a buck in the USA it will be found.

Well that’s convenient, they were not in control of the media when he was elected? Yea.

Oh I remember something being written in the 40’s that there was a complete dominance of the media by the Jews at that time – here is the US. The Germans made the same comment in the 20’s and early 30’s. Why can’t you see this as a repeat?

And that is your opininion on Carter's book I haven't read it yet...But opinions are just like ------- every one has one and they usally stink. Funny thing that dumb hick was right on with energy policy..We wouldn't be in Iraq now if we would of listened.

Well that’s not just my opinion, that’s an opinion of a lot of people, and some of his staff quit over the ‘content’ of the book, some calling it a fallacy while others say that it was too much to include false unconfirmed references. I read the book twice, I gave it away. I am glad I didn’t pay for it, it was really pro-arab, surprising that we didn’t have a 9/11 type attack in the 80’s.

Get real with his energy policy; he had nothing – what wear a sweater? Come on, your better than that.

Ya think maybe they just might toss a little in so they can pull the wool over the eyes of the sheeple?

Well belittling people by calling them sheeple is well belittling, right?

Why don't you read all 24 protocals of zionism and then come back with your vast knowledge..Actually protocol 12 and tell us all about it with your insight, your brillance,your thought provoking typing skills. I will ask you about it next posting ..As matter of fact why have you are anyone else not told me why I am paying a kosher tax on cleaning chemcicals, ketchup, plastic bags etc...WHY IS THAT O ENLIGHTENED ONE?

Heheheh. OK let’s think about this for a moment…..ok ready….

The book, which has gone through a number of versions and titles is really titled “Протоколы сионских мудрецов” or “Protocols of the Zionist wise men”. It was written by a Russian and there are theories that it really was written by some of the Orthodox Church member who just learned how to write while others think that it was just written as a joke and hence is the reason it was published privately for the first edition. In 1905, Sergei Nilus took the book and published it for the public. The Imperial Government promoted the book as a counter measure tool against the revolutionary faction within Russia that was trying to gain a foot hold in Russia and get the people on their side (remember propaganda).

The idea was that socialism is actually a Jewish thing, hence if you want to support revolution, then you are supporting a Jewish cause. Hilter and others believed that, as did Ford here and tried to fool people in thinking that their problems (even Ford) were all because of some high Jewish conspiracy.

The amazing thing is that is you compare this book to two other books, “Dialogue in Hell Between Machiavelli and Montesquieu” by Joly and "Biarritz” by Goedsche, there is too much that seems taken from those two spereatly to make this book.. well plagerized. Many believe that the latter is the real source for the book's content, but neither books actually mention Jews, something that is, well amazing.

It is like reading Bolshevism from Moses to Lenin or Dialogues Between Hitler and Me by Eckart, both have a very specific intent and both don’t hide it.

Oh yea number 12, that goes there with 13 and 17.

As a matter of fact, you have yet to prove there is a ‘Kosher’ tax.

Really I bet no one figured that one out...Cheee I wonder if the USA and the rest of the countries involved did?? I bet your the only one who knows that. I bet you have Harvard education

You would not believe where my education came from if I told you anyway.

**theBeemer** · 08-26-2008, 10:42 PM

The Kosher Food Tax

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The Kosher Food Tax is the biggest consumer fraud existing in America. Examine every item in your cupboards for either the (U) or (K) labels. These symbols represent a Jewish "blessing" and when these small symbols are detected, it means that you have unwittingly paid a tax to a Jewish religious group. They will not always be on the front of the package; they may be hidden amid the small print near the label's seam. This cryptic code has to do with a Hebrew "secret," a heist, which illuminates the Jews' power in the United States. The circled "U," sometimes with the word "Parve," stands for Union of Orthodox Jews (UOJCA), the "K" stands for Kosher (KOV K). Both will not be found on the same package. These symbols mean that the product's producer paid the Jews a kind of "tax" to have some rabbi "bless" it. Don't confuse these letters with the letter "R" which stands for registered trade mark or a letter "C" which stands for copyright. These two letters will probably be there too. You have now discovered what the Jews call "hechsers," a rip-off code found on most grocery items. In 1959, the Wall Street Journal estimated that this massive Jewish payola at about $20 million. That is almost forty years ago. Since that time, the Jewish owned Wall Street Journal has remained silent. The rip-off is thought to be in the hundreds of millions today. The Jewish Post of July 30, 1976 reported that Rabbi Harvey Sentor admitted that Kov K was a "profit-making concern." The UOJCA extracts exactly the same levy as Kov K, and in exactly the same way. Jews, of course, defend these "blessings" in any way they can, but what this rip-off really boils down to for the Gentile is legalized extortion. After all, the Jews represent but 2.9% of the population. It is not an option for the Gentile to have this "tax" removed from products he buys or have the little Jewish letters erased. He has to pay this "tax" to the Jews whether he wants to or not. If this was nothing more than a bizarre religious ceremony, giving rabbinical approval to food and food products prepared in a specific way to meet an unusual diet, then why are steel wool and kitchen utensils also included? The Jews have a strange diet indeed! If these "blessings" are so important to Jews, why do they charge for them? You would think that they would be willing to give this service free--for benefit of their own people--and perhaps pay something to food product companies for providing this Kosher identification. Instead, it's the reverse-companies have to pay to have the Kosher identification. Since Jews represent a small percent of America's population, why is it that they place most of the burden of this "tax" on the shoulders of the Gentile? Why have the Gentile consumers been so silent for so long about this perennial extortion by the Jews? And since this burden comes off as a "tax," don't Gentiles have a right to know where and how this money is spent? How on earth do the Jews get away with this daylight robbery? The answer is that the Jewish blessing agencies wield enormous power through Jewish domination of the retail and distribution trades..and Jews own America's press. Non-compliance by a food producer would quickly bring about a Jewish boycott of the product. Bankruptcy! Here is how this clever scheme works. An Orthodox Rabbi will approach a company and warn the owners that unless their product is certified as Kosher, or "fit for a Jew to eat", they will face a boycott by every Jew in America. Once they succumb to this BLACKMAIL, they are required to keep the total amount paid the Rabbis every year a strict secret! The growth of this Kosher racket has been nothing less than phenomenal. In 1960, only 225 food products paid the Kosher tax. By 1966, this figure grew to 476 and jumped to 1000 by 1974. Today, a whopping 17,500 companies have been intimidated into paying this multi-level tax.

How The Kosher Tax Operates

The Union of Orthodox Rabbis which issues the (U) symbol controls 80% of the Kosher certification business. They employ some 300 Rabbis who travel nation-wide "inspecting" food processing plants. First, the company must pay an annual fee for the use of the copyright symbol--the (U) or (K) or a version thereof. Second, the company must pay a separate heavy fee each time a team of Rabbis shows up to "inspect" their plant (Certain meat packers are required to hire Rabbis full time at extravagant salaries). Third, the company must pay these fees over and over again for each different product they make. Thus, General Foods pays dozens of separate fees. Also, each sub-contracting company which provides any type of ingredient which goes into the finished product must also pay separate fees to the "visiting Rabbis". Sometimes a single product may eventually be taxed as many as a dozen times right down the line before it reaches you the consumer! Last, but not least, these fees must be paid annually and they are increased each year. Only by increasing the public awareness of the Kosher Food Tax and doing our best to refrain from purchasing products with the "K" or "U" symbols, can we begin to end this outrage being perpetrated upon our people. With the purchasing power of the dollar less all the time, we cannot afford this outrage to continue unchecked.
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YouTube - Kosher Tax - The Hidden Gem

**theBeemer** · 08-26-2008, 11:08 PM

The Kosher Food Tax

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The Kosher Food Tax is the biggest consumer fraud existing in America. Examine every item in your cupboards for either the (U) or (K) labels. These symbols represent a Jewish "blessing" and when these small symbols are detected, it means that you have unwittingly paid a tax to a Jewish religious group. They will not always be on the front of the package; they may be hidden amid the small print near the label's seam. This cryptic code has to do with a Hebrew "secret," a heist, which illuminates the Jews' power in the United States. The circled "U," sometimes with the word "Parve," stands for Union of Orthodox Jews (UOJCA), the "K" stands for Kosher (KOV K). Both will not be found on the same package. These symbols mean that the product's producer paid the Jews a kind of "tax" to have some rabbi "bless" it. Don't confuse these letters with the letter "R" which stands for registered trade mark or a letter "C" which stands for copyright. These two letters will probably be there too. You have now discovered what the Jews call "hechsers," a rip-off code found on most grocery items. In 1959, the Wall Street Journal estimated that this massive Jewish payola at about $20 million. That is almost forty years ago. Since that time, the Jewish owned Wall Street Journal has remained silent. The rip-off is thought to be in the hundreds of millions today. The Jewish Post of July 30, 1976 reported that Rabbi Harvey Sentor admitted that Kov K was a "profit-making concern." The UOJCA extracts exactly the same levy as Kov K, and in exactly the same way. Jews, of course, defend these "blessings" in any way they can, but what this rip-off really boils down to for the Gentile is legalized extortion. After all, the Jews represent but 2.9% of the population. It is not an option for the Gentile to have this "tax" removed from products he buys or have the little Jewish letters erased. He has to pay this "tax" to the Jews whether he wants to or not. If this was nothing more than a bizarre religious ceremony, giving rabbinical approval to food and food products prepared in a specific way to meet an unusual diet, then why are steel wool and kitchen utensils also included? The Jews have a strange diet indeed! If these "blessings" are so important to Jews, why do they charge for them? You would think that they would be willing to give this service free--for benefit of their own people--and perhaps pay something to food product companies for providing this Kosher identification. Instead, it's the reverse-companies have to pay to have the Kosher identification. Since Jews represent a small percent of America's population, why is it that they place most of the burden of this "tax" on the shoulders of the Gentile? Why have the Gentile consumers been so silent for so long about this perennial extortion by the Jews? And since this burden comes off as a "tax," don't Gentiles have a right to know where and how this money is spent? How on earth do the Jews get away with this daylight robbery? The answer is that the Jewish blessing agencies wield enormous power through Jewish domination of the retail and distribution trades..and Jews own America's press. Non-compliance by a food producer would quickly bring about a Jewish boycott of the product. Bankruptcy! Here is how this clever scheme works. An Orthodox Rabbi will approach a company and warn the owners that unless their product is certified as Kosher, or "fit for a Jew to eat", they will face a boycott by every Jew in America. Once they succumb to this BLACKMAIL, they are required to keep the total amount paid the Rabbis every year a strict secret! The growth of this Kosher racket has been nothing less than phenomenal. In 1960, only 225 food products paid the Kosher tax. By 1966, this figure grew to 476 and jumped to 1000 by 1974. Today, a whopping 17,500 companies have been intimidated into paying this multi-level tax.

How The Kosher Tax Operates

The Union of Orthodox Rabbis which issues the (U) symbol controls 80% of the Kosher certification business. They employ some 300 Rabbis who travel nation-wide "inspecting" food processing plants. First, the company must pay an annual fee for the use of the copyright symbol--the (U) or (K) or a version thereof. Second, the company must pay a separate heavy fee each time a team of Rabbis shows up to "inspect" their plant (Certain meat packers are required to hire Rabbis full time at extravagant salaries). Third, the company must pay these fees over and over again for each different product they make. Thus, General Foods pays dozens of separate fees. Also, each sub-contracting company which provides any type of ingredient which goes into the finished product must also pay separate fees to the "visiting Rabbis". Sometimes a single product may eventually be taxed as many as a dozen times right down the line before it reaches you the consumer! Last, but not least, these fees must be paid annually and they are increased each year. Only by increasing the public awareness of the Kosher Food Tax and doing our best to refrain from purchasing products with the "K" or "U" symbols, can we begin to end this outrage being perpetrated upon our people. With the purchasing power of the dollar less all the time, we cannot afford this outrage to continue unchecked.
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Americans pay a hidden food tax because the U.S. FDA is not good enough for Jews -- that's taxation without representation
The Kosher Food Tax is a fraud on the American consumer. Take a look at the items in your cupboard and you'll find either the (U) or (K) labels on almost every one of them. These symbols represent a Jewish "blessing", which means that you have unwittingly paid a tax to a Jewish religious group. These symbols could be anywhere on the package, so look carefully.

The circled "U," sometimes with the word "Parve", stands for Union of Orthodox Jews (UOJCA), the "K" stands for Kosher (KOV K). These symbols mean that the product's producer paid the Jews a kind of "tax" to have some rabbi "bless" it. Don't confuse these letters with the letter "R" which stands for 'registered trade mark' or a letter "C" which stands for 'copyright'.

In 1959, the Wall Street Journal estimated this "tax" at about $20 million and it is thought to be in the hundreds of millions today. The Jewish Post of July 30, 1976 reported that Rabbi Harvey Sentor admitted that Kov K was a "profit-making concern." The UOJCA extracts exactly the same levy as Kov K.

This "tax" is not an option for the Gentile, he has to pay it to the Jews. If this was nothing more than a religious ceremony, giving rabbinical approval to food and food products prepared in a specific way, then why are steel wool and kitchen utensils also included?

Here is how the scheme works. An Orthodox Rabbi warns a company that unless their product is certified as Kosher they will face a boycott by every Jew in America. Once the company agrees, it must keep the amount paid a strict secret!

In 1960, 225 food products paid the Kosher tax, 476 in 1966, 1000 in 1974, and today 17,500 companies are paying this multi-level tax. Listed below are National Kosher Agencies and their symbols - you might want to give them a call to see what they say. Regional listings and their symbols will follow soon.

Kof-K Kosher Supervision

1444 Queen Anne Road
Teaneck, NJ 07666
201-837-0500
Fax: 201-837-0126
Rabbi Aharon Felder, Director of Kosher Standards
Rabbi Ari Moshe Senter, Halachic Research
Rabbi Dovid Senter, Rabbi Yehuda Rosenbaum,
Rabbi Daniel Senter, Administration
Rabbi Dr. H. Zecharia Senter, Executive Administrator
Publication: Kosher Outlook Supplement

The Organized Kashruth Laboratories

1372 Carroll Street
Brooklyn, NY 11213
718-756-7500
Fax: 718-756-7500
Rabbi Don Yoel Levy, Kashruth Administrator
Rabbi Leizer Teitelbaum, Rabbi Dovid Steigman,
Rabbi Chaim Fogelman, Rabbi Levi Garelik,
Rabbi Avraham Juravel, Rabbi Mendel Raitzes, Rabbinical Coordinators
Publication: The Jewish Homemaker

Star-K Kosher Certification

11 Warren Road
Baltimore, MD 21208-5234
410-484-4110
Fax: 410-653-9294
Rabbi Moshe Heinemann, Rabbinic Administrator
Dr. Avrom Pollak, President
Rabbi Eliyahu Shuman, Director of Supervision
Publication: Kashrus Kurrents

The Union of Orthodox Jewish Congregations

333 Seventh Avenue
New York, NY 10001
212-563-4000
Fax: 212-564-9058
Rabbi Menachem Genack, Rabbinic Administrator
Publications: the "OU" Kashrus Directory, Jewish Action, Mesorah Journal of Halacha, Daf Hakashrus

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Do you need anymore proof?

Now sit there and tell us how this is at the most a minimum we should have to pay to them .
You can stick your head in the sand all you want about Khazar's and they scams they pull. And you never did comment about the 12Th protocol why is that?
Carter energy policy..well 55 saves allot more fuel then 70 plus all over. Burning it up like we are doing is wastefull and quite expensive, Drives the cost up for everyone. And yes I wear a sweatshirt when cold not turn the heat up...
Your so wise and educated why don't you?

You never did answer if your a vet.
You never did answer about Khazar's.
You never did answer the kosher tax scam.
Are you a Khazar? Be honest now.

**theBeemer** · 08-26-2008, 11:18 PM

By the way Greg here is the 12th protocol. For something that was never written in 1897 this sure seems real. Maybe with you brillance your enlightenment, your thought provoking comments, your endless knowledge of the worlds events maybe you can open our eyes and prove this wrong. By the way are you going to answer the about the kosher tax. And your right 10 fits right in too

WORLD CONQUEST THROUGH WORLD JEWISH GOVERNMENT

THE PROTOCOLS
OF THE
LEARNED ELDERS
OF ZION

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PROTOCOL No. 12
1. The word "freedom," which can be interpreted in various ways, is defined by us as follows -

2. Freedom is the right to do what which the law allows. This interpretation of the word will at the proper time be of service to us, because all freedom will thus be in our hands, since the laws will abolish or create only that which is desirable for us according to the aforesaid program.

3. We shall deal with the press in the following way: what is the part played by the press to-day? It serves to excite and inflame those passions which are needed for our purpose or else it serves selfish ends of parties. It is often vapid, unjust, mendacious, and the majority of the public have not the slightest idea what ends the press really serves. We shall saddle and bridle it with a tight curb: we shall do the same also with all productions of the printing press, for where would be the sense of getting rid of the attacks of the press if we remain targets for pamphlets and books? The produce of publicity, which nowadays is a source of heavy expense owing to the necessity of censoring it, will be turned by us into a very lucrative source of income to our State: we shall lay on it a special stamp tax and require deposits of caution-money before permitting the establishment of any organ of the press or of printing offices; these will then have to guarantee our government against any kind of attack on the part of the press. For any attempt to attack us, if such still be possible, we shall inflict fines without mercy. Such measures as stamp tax, deposit of caution-money and fines secured by these deposits, will bring in a huge income to the government. It is true that party organs might not spare money for the sake of publicity, but these we shall shut up at the second attack upon us. No one shall with impunity lay a finger on the aureole of our government infallibility. The pretext for stopping any publication will be the alleged plea that it is agitating the public mind without occasion or justification. I BEG YOU TO NOTE THAT AMONG THOSE MAKING ATTACKS UPON US WILL ALSO BE ORGANS ESTABLISHED BY US, BUT THEY WILL ATTACK EXCLUSIVELY POINTS THAT WE HAVE PRE-DETERMINED TO ALTER.

WE CONTROL THE PRESS
4. NOT A SINGLE ANNOUNCEMENT WILL REACH THE PUBLIC WITHOUT OUR CONTROL. Even now this is already being attained by us inasmuch as all news items are received by a few agencies, in whose offices they are focused from all parts of the world. These agencies will then be already entirely ours and will give publicity only to what we dictate to them.

5. If already now we have contrived to possess ourselves of the minds of the GOY communities to such an extent the they all come near looking upon the events of the world through the colored glasses of those spectacles we are setting astride their noses; if already now there is not a single State where there exist for us any barriers to admittance into what GOY stupidity calls State secrets: what will our positions be then, when we shall be acknowledged supreme lords of the world in the person of our king of all the world ....

6. Let us turn again to the FUTURE OF THE PRINTING PRESS. Every one desirous of being a publisher, librarian, or printer, will be obliged to provide himself with the diploma instituted therefore, which, in case of any fault, will be immediately impounded. With such measures THE INSTRUMENT OF THOUGHT WILL BECOME AN EDUCATIVE MEANS ON THE HANDS OF OUR GOVERNMENT, WHICH WILL NO LONGER ALLOW THE MASS OF THE NATION TO BE LED ASTRAY IN BY-WAYS AND FANTASIES ABOUT THE BLESSINGS OF PROGRESS. Is there any one of us who does not know that these phantom blessings are the direct roads to foolish imaginings which give birth to anarchical relations of men among themselves and towards authority, because progress, or rather the idea of progress, has introduced the conception of every kind of emancipation, but has failed to establish its limits .... All the so-called liberals are anarchists, if not in fact, at any rate in thought. Every one of them in hunting after phantoms of freedom, and falling exclusively into license, that is, into the anarchy of protest for the sake of protest....

FREE PRESS DESTROYED
7. We turn to the periodical press. We shall impose on it, as on all printed matter, stamp taxes per sheet and deposits of caution-money, and books of less than 30 sheets will pay double. We shall reckon them as pamphlets in order, on the one hand, to reduce the number of magazines, which are the worst form of printed poison, and, on the other, in order that this measure may force writers into such lengthy productions that they will be little read, especially as they will be costly. At the same time what we shall publish ourselves to influence mental development in the direction laid down for our profit will be cheap and will be read voraciously. The tax will bring vapid literary ambitions within bounds and the liability to penalties will make literary men dependent upon us. And if there should be any found who are desirous of writing against us, they will not find any person eager to print their productions. Before accepting any production for publication in print, the publisher or printer will have to apply to the authorities for permission to do so. Thus we shall know beforehand of all tricks preparing against us and shall nullify them by getting ahead with explanations on the subject treated of.

8. Literature and journalism are two of the most important educative forces, and therefore our government will become proprietor of the majority of the journals. This will neutralize the injurious influence of the privately-owned press and will put us in possession of a tremendous influence upon the public mind .... If we give permits for ten journals, we shall ourselves found thirty, and so on in the same proportion. This, however, must in no wise be suspected by the public. For which reason all journals published by us will be of the most opposite, in appearance, tendencies and opinions, thereby creating confidence in us and bringing over to us quite unsuspicious opponents, who will thus fall into our trap and be rendered harmless.

9. In the front rank will stand organs of an official character. They will always stand guard over our interests, and therefore their influence will be comparatively insignificant.

10. In the second rank will be the semi-official organs, whose part it will be to attack the tepid and indifferent.

11. In the third rank we shall set up our own, to all appearance, opposition, which, in at least one of its organs, will present what looks like the very antipodes to us. Our real opponents at heart will accept this simulated opposition as their own and will show us their cards.

12. All our newspapers will be of all possible complexions -- aristocratic, republican, revolutionary, even anarchical - for so long, of course, as the constitution exists .... Like the Indian idol "Vishnu" they will have a hundred hands, and every one of them will have a finger on any one of the public opinions as required. When a pulse quickens these hands will lead opinion in the direction of our aims, for an excited patient loses all power of judgment and easily yields to suggestion. Those fools who will think they are repeating the opinion of a newspaper of their own camp will be repeating our opinion or any opinion that seems desirable for us. In the vain belief that they are following the organ of their party they will, in fact, follow the flag which we hang out for them.

13. In order to direct our newspaper militia in this sense we must take special and minute care in organizing this matter. Under the title of central department of the press we shall institute literary gatherings at which our agents will without attracting attention issue the orders and watchwords of the day. By discussing and controverting, but always superficially, without touching the essence of the matter, our organs will carry on a sham fight fusillade with the official newspapers solely for the purpose of giving occasion for us to express ourselves more fully than could well be done from the outset in official announcements, whenever, of course, that is to our advantage.

14. THESE ATTACKS UPON US WILL ALSO SERVE ANOTHER PURPOSE, NAMELY, THAT OUR SUBJECTS WILL BE CONVINCED TO THE EXISTENCE OF FULL FREEDOM OF SPEECH AND SO GIVE OUR AGENTS AN OCCASION TO AFFIRM THAT ALL ORGANS WHICH OPPOSE US ARE EMPTY BABBLERS, since they are incapable of finding any substantial objections to our orders.

ONLY LIES PRINTED
15. Methods of organization like these, imperceptible to the public eye but absolutely sure, are the best calculated to succeed in bringing the attention and the confidence of the public to the side of our government. Thanks to such methods we shall be in a position as from time to time may be required, to excite or to tranquillize the public mind on political questions, to persuade or to confuse, printing now truth, now lies, facts or their contradictions, according as they may be well or ill received, always very cautiously feeling our ground before stepping upon it .... WE SHALL HAVE A SURE TRIUMPH OVER OUR OPPONENTS SINCE THEY WILL NOT HAVE AT THEIR DISPOSITION ORGANS OF THE PRESS IN WHICH THEY CAN GIVE FULL AND FINAL EXPRESSION TO THEIR VIEWS owing to the aforesaid methods of dealing with the press. We shall not even need to refute them except very superficially.

16. Trial shots like these, fired by us in the third rank of our press, in case of need, will be energetically refuted by us in our semi-official organs.

17. Even nowadays, already, to take only the French press, there are forms which reveal masonic solidarity in acting on the watchword: all organs of the press are bound together by professional secrecy; like the augurs of old, not one of their numbers will give away the secret of his sources of information unless it be resolved to make announcement of them. Not one journalist will venture to betray this secret, for not one of them is ever admitted to practice literature unless his whole past has some disgraceful sore or other .... These sores would be immediately revealed. So long as they remain the secret of a few the prestige of the journalist attacks the majority of the country - the mob follow after him with enthusiasm.

18. Our calculations are especially extended to the provinces. It is indispensable for us to inflame there those hopes and impulses with which we could at any moment fall upon the capital, and we shall represent to the capitals that these expressions are the independent hopes and impulses of the provinces. Naturally, the source of them will be always one and the same - ours. WHAT WE NEED IS THAT, UNTIL SUCH TIME AS WE ARE IN THE PLENITUDE POWER, THE CAPITALS SHOULD FIND THEMSELVES STIFLED BY THE PROVINCIAL OPINION OF THE NATIONS, I.E., OF A MAJORITY ARRANGED BY OUR AGENTUR. What we need is that at the psychological moment the capitals should not be in a position to discuss an accomplished fact for the simple reason, if for no other, that it has been accepted by the public opinion of a majority in the provinces.

19. WHEN WE ARE IN THE PERIOD OF THE NEW REGIME TRANSITIONAL TO THAT OF OUR ASSUMPTION OF FULL SOVEREIGNTY WE MUST NOT ADMIT ANY REVELATION BY THE PRESS OF ANY FORM OF PUBLIC DISHONESTY; IT IS NECESSARY THAT THE NEW REGIME SHOULD BE THOUGHT TO HAVE SO PERFECTLY CONTENDED EVERYBODY THAT EVEN CRIMINALITY HAS DISAPPEARED ... Cases of the manifestation of criminality should remain known only to their victims and to chance witnesses - no more.

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**theBeemer** · 08-26-2008, 11:22 PM

Here is the 10TH protocol kinda scary huh???Maybe you can explain why the presidents now pay homage to Isreal?? Just read these two and wow..for something never written they sure come along pretty strong. And why do we pay a kosher tax?

PROTOCOL No. 10
1. To-day I begin with a repetition of what I said before, and I BEG YOU TO BEAR IN MIND THAT GOVERNMENTS AND PEOPLE ARE CONTENT IN THE POLITICAL WITH OUTSIDE APPEARANCES. And how, indeed, are the GOYIM to perceive the underlying meaning of things when their representatives give the best of their energies to enjoying themselves? For our policy it is of the greatest importance to take cognizance of this detail; it will be of assistance to us when we come to consider the division of authority of property, of the dwelling, of taxation (the idea of concealed taxes), of the reflex force of the laws. All these questions are such as ought not to be touched upon directly and openly before the people. In cases where it is indispensable to touch upon them they must not be categorically named, it must merely be declared without detailed exposition that the principles of contemporary law are acknowledged by us. The reason of keeping silence in this respect is that by not naming a principle we leave ourselves freedom of action, to drop this or that out of it without attracting notice; if they were all categorically named they would all appear to have been already given.

2. The mob cherishes a special affection and respect for the geniuses of political power and accepts all their deeds of violence with the admiring response: "rascally, well, yes, it is rascally, but it's clever! ... a trick, if you like, but how craftily played, how magnificently done, what impudent audacity!" ...

OUR GOAL - WORLD POWER
3. We count upon attracting all nations to the task of erecting the new fundamental structure, the project for which has been drawn up by us. This is why, before everything, it is indispensable for us to arm ourselves and to store up in ourselves that absolutely reckless audacity and irresistible might of the spirit which in the person of our active workers will break down all hindrances on our way.

4. WHEN WE HAVE ACCOMPLISHED OUR COUP D'ETAT WE SHALL SAY THEN TO THE VARIOUS PEOPLES: "EVERYTHING HAS GONE TERRIBLY BADLY, ALL HAVE BEEN WORN OUT WITH SUFFERING. WE ARE DESTROYING THE CAUSES OF YOUR TORMENT - NATIONALITIES, FRONTIERS, DIFFERENCES OF COINAGES. YOU ARE AT LIBERTY, OF COURSE, TO PRONOUNCE SENTENCE UPON US, BUT CAN IT POSSIBLY BE A JUST ONE IF IT IS CONFIRMED BY YOU BEFORE YOU MAKE ANY TRIAL OF WHAT WE ARE OFFERING YOU." ... THEN WILL THE MOB EXALT US AND BEAR US UP IN THEIR HANDS IN A UNANIMOUS TRIUMPH OF HOPES AND EXPECTATIONS. VOTING, WHICH WE HAVE MADE THE INSTRUMENT WHICH WILL SET US ON THE THRONE OF THE WORLD BY TEACHING EVEN THE VERY SMALLEST UNITS OF MEMBERS OF THE HUMAN RACE TO VOTE BY MEANS OF MEETINGS AND AGREEMENTS BY GROUPS, WILL THEN HAVE SERVED ITS PURPOSES AND WILL PLAY ITS PART THEN FOR THE LAST TIME BY A UNANIMITY OF DESIRE TO MAKE CLOSE ACQUAINTANCE WITH US BEFORE CONDEMNING US.

5. TO SECURE THIS WE MUST HAVE EVERYBODY VOTE WITHOUT DISTINCTION OF CLASSES AND QUALIFICATIONS, in order to establish an absolute majority, which cannot be got from the educated propertied classes. In this way, by inculcating in all a sense of self-importance, we shall destroy among the GOYIM the importance of the family and its educational value and remove the possibility of individual minds splitting off, for the mob, handled by us, will not let them come to the front nor even give them a hearing; it is accustomed to listen to us only who pay it for obedience and attention. In this way we shall create a blind, mighty force which will never be in a position to move in any direction without the guidance of our agents set at its head by us as leaders of the mob. The people will submit to this regime because it will know that upon these leaders will depend its earnings, gratifications and the receipt of all kinds of benefits.

6. A scheme of government should come ready made from one brain, because it will never be clinched firmly if it is allowed to be split into fractional parts in the minds of many. It is allowable, therefore, for us to have cognizance of the scheme of action but not to discuss it lest we disturb its artfulness, the interdependence of its component parts, the practical force of the secret meaning of each clause. To discuss and make alterations in a labor of this kind by means of numerous votings is to impress upon it the stamp of all ratiocinations and misunderstandings which have failed to penetrate the depth and nexus of its plottings. We want our schemes to be forcible and suitably concocted. Therefore WE OUGHT NOT TO FLING THE WORK OF GENIUS OF OUR GUIDE to the fangs of the mob or even of a select company.

7. These schemes will not turn existing institutions upside down just yet. They will only effect changes in their economy and consequently in the whole combined movement of their progress, which will thus be directed along the paths laid down in our schemes.

POISON OF LIBERALISM
8. Under various names there exists in all countries approximately one and the same thing. Representation, Ministry, Senate, State Council, Legislative and Executive Corps. I need not explain to you the mechanism of the relation of these institutions to one another, because you are aware of all that; only take note of the fact that each of the above-named institutions corresponds to some important function of the State, and I would beg you to remark that the word "important" I apply not to the institution but to the function, consequently it is not the institutions which are important but their functions. These institutions have divided up among themselves all the functions of government - administrative, legislative, executive, wherefore they have come to operate as do the organs in the human body. If we injure one part in the machinery of State, the State falls sick, like a human body, and ... will die.

9. When we introduced into the State organism the poison of Liberalism its whole political complexion underwent a change. States have been seized with a mortal illness - blood poisoning. All that remains is to await the end of their death agony.

10. Liberalism produced Constitutional States, which took the place of what was the only safeguard of the GOYIM, namely, Despotism; and A CONSTITUTION, AS YOU WELL KNOW, IS NOTHING ELSE BUT A SCHOOL OF DISCORDS, misunderstandings, quarrels, disagreements, fruitless party agitations, party whims - in a word, a school of everything that serves to destroy the personality of State activity. THE TRIBUNE OF THE "TALKERIES" HAS, NO LESS EFFECTIVELY THAN THE PRESS, CONDEMNED THE RULERS TO INACTIVITY AND IMPOTENCE, and thereby rendered them useless and superfluous, for which reason indeed they have been in many countries deposed. THEN IT WAS THAT THE ERA OF REPUBLICS BECOME POSSIBLE OF REALIZATION; AND THEN IT WAS THAT WE REPLACED THE RULER BY A CARICATURE OF A GOVERNMENT - BY A PRESIDENT, TAKEN FROM THE MOB, FROM THE MIDST OF OUR PUPPET CREATURES, OR SLAVES. This was the foundation of the mine which we have laid under the GOY people, I should rather say, under the GOY peoples.

WE NAME PRESIDENTS
11. In the near future we shall establish the responsibility of presidents.

12. By that time we shall be in a position to disregard forms in carrying through matters for which our impersonal puppet will be responsible. What do we care if the ranks of those striving for power should be thinned, if there should arise a deadlock from the impossibility of finding presidents, a deadlock which will finally disorganize the country? ...

13. In order that our scheme may produce this result we shall arrange elections in favor of such presidents as have in their past some dark, undiscovered stain, some "Panama" or other - then they will be trustworthy agents for the accomplishment of our plans out of fear of revelations and from the natural desire of everyone who has attained power, namely, the retention of the privileges, advantages and honor connected with the office of president. The chamber of deputies will provide cover for, will protect, will elect presidents, but we shall take from it the right to propose new, or make changes in existing laws, for this right will be given by us to the responsible president, a puppet in our hands. Naturally, the authority of the presidents will then become a target for every possible form of attack, but we shall provide him with a means of self-defense in the right of an appeal to the people, for the decision of the people over the heads of their representatives, that is to say, an appeal to that same blind slave of ours - the majority of the mob. Independently of this we shall invest the president with the right of declaring a state of war. We shall justify this last right on the ground that the president as chief of the whole army of the country must have it at his disposal, in case of need for the defense of the new republican constitution, the right to defend which will belong to him as the responsible representative of this constitution. (Iran? Grenada? Kuwait? Iraq? Panama? Somalia? Bosnia? Kosovo? Indonesia?)

14. It is easy to understand that in these conditions the key of the shrine will lie in our hands, and no one outside ourselves will any longer direct the force of legislation.

15. Besides this we shall, with the introduction of the new republican constitution, take from the Chamber the right of interpolation on government measures, on the pretext of preserving political secrecy, and, further, we shall by the new constitution reduce the number of representatives to a minimum, thereby proportionately reducing political passions and the passion for politics. If, however, they should, which is hardly to be expected, burst into flame, even in this minimum, we shall nullify them by a stirring appeal and a reference to the majority of the whole people ... Upon the president will depend the appointment of presidents and vice-presidents of the Chamber and the Senate. Instead of constant sessions of Parliaments we shall reduce their sittings to a few months. Moreover, the president, as chief of the executive power, will have the right to summon and dissolve Parliament, and, in the latter case, to prolong the time for the appointment of a new parliamentary assembly. But in order that the consequences of all these acts which in substance are illegal, should not, prematurely for our plans, fall upon the responsibility established by us of the president, WE SHALL INSTIGATE MINISTERS AND OTHER OFFICIALS OF THE HIGHER ADMINISTRATION ABOUT THE PRESIDENT TO EVADE HIS DISPOSITIONS BY TAKING MEASURES OF THEIR OWN, for doing which they will be made the scapegoats in his place ... This part we especially recommend to be given to be played by the Senate, the Council of State, or the Council of Ministers, but not to an individual official.

16. The president will, at our discretion, interpret the sense of such of the existing laws as admit of various interpretation; he will further annul them when we indicate to him the necessity to do so, besides this, he will have the right to propose temporary laws, and even new departures in the government constitutional working, the pretext both for the one and the other being the requirements for the supreme welfare of the State. (Presidential Decrees such as F.D.R. employed to debase the US dollar and steal the gold and to place the U.S. under a permanent State of Emergency and War against its own citizens?)

WE SHALL DESTROY
17. By such measure we shall obtain the power of destroying little by little, step by step, all that at the outset when we enter on our rights, we are compelled to introduce into the constitutions of States to prepare for the transition to an imperceptible abolition of every kind of constitution, and then the time is come to turn every form of government into OUR DESPOTISM.

18. The recognition of our despot may also come before the destruction of the constitution; the moment for this recognition will come when the peoples, utterly wearied by the irregularities and incompetence - a matter which we shall arrange for - of their rulers, will clamor: "Away with them and give us one king over all the earth who will unite us and annihilate the causes of disorders - frontiers, nationalities, religions, State debts - who will give us peace and quiet which we cannot find under our rulers and representatives."

19. But you yourselves perfectly well know that TO PRODUCE THE POSSIBILITY OF THE EXPRESSION OF SUCH WISHES BY ALL THE NATIONS IT IS INDISPENSABLE TO TROUBLE IN ALL COUNTRIES THE PEOPLE'S RELATIONS WITH THEIR GOVERNMENTS SO AS TO UTTERLY EXHAUST HUMANITY WITH DISSENSION, HATRED, STRUGGLE, ENVY AND EVEN BY THE USE OF TORTURE, BY STARVATION, BY THE INOCULATION OF DISEASES, BY WANT, SO THAT THE "GOYIM" SEE NO OTHER ISSUE THAN TO TAKE REFUGE IN OUR COMPLETE SOVEREIGNTY IN MONEY AND IN ALL ELSE.

20. But if we give the nations of the world a breathing space the moment we long for is hardly likely ever to arrive.

**greg334** · 08-26-2008, 11:47 PM

Why do you post things like that? I mean I got three different versions of the book in electric form, you don't have to post that. Get the actual physical book published before 1940 (which is the closest to the Russian third edition and compare it to what you just posted.

Also go find copies of the two that I mentioned, see for yourself what the author used. OH by the way, I said published in 1905, not written, the actual date is 'estimated' around 1895, not 97. You do know that there is no manualscript of the book, no one has found it ever.

I am waiting, where it the specific proof of a 'Tax'? You offer nothing.... because there is no tax.

It is simplifying whats going on so to make people to believe that it appears they are being robbed.

Tax is on the key word list of propaganda.

Ok, I don't know......it isn't a tax.....

So you may get this.

I wanted to find out how to work with Muslims to provide Halah food to the 'growing' community - something like it is better to work with them to fear them thing. I worked with two business owners who were also going through the process in the Eastern Market. They got me to go through the first step of certification and that is where I had a problem. By the way it is not a simple process, closely watched and amazingly controlled and costly because the orgianization who controls the certification also charges fees. Before I could go onto the next step with people who would certified my venture, I would have to get a kosher ceritification for a number of reasons, some I know you wouldn't understand. (Ain't that amazing, the Muslims working with them bad Jews.)

What you posted is part correct, there is a fee (not a tax), there is a process and the money goes to support people and the organizations that watch over this stuff. I know they make money but you don't understand the middle east mindset anyway so it would be useless to explain.

To be sure, it is not a tax, learn what a tax is.

To be sure it is nothing but reaching out to a market to make money, if GF has a problem with it, I bet you that if they didn't, their profits would take a noticable dip.

There is no forcing a company pay, the fee schedule is complex and made that way for a number of reasons, as is the copyright fee schedule that we all live with (talk about a real tax).

The other thing is that it really is something that many Jews take seriously and I think it's good that they do. Just like the Muslims, there is something about being sinful to them.