[jwc]

well said turtle

[morningstar55ny]

ok .... i have a frustrating topic here......... hope someone can help

hey i have a very frustrating issue here.
let me see how can i explain it........
when i come to dallas...... i been parking in this 1 certain area ... which is in garland..... on nw highway.... by the 635 loop interstate ok... this location is ... also on the boarder of the garland and dallas city lines. .... it is a suberb of dallas... just like irving is to dallas only on oppisite side of town. I park here...... cause i been seeing someone for about 2 and half yrs now and they live in the mesquite area. but i am not allowed to park the truck there...... soo this is and has been a very good spot... in the parking lot of a sam's wharehouse and a frys electronics......... its safe there... anyways
ever since they changed the boards.... now.... it puts me in as being on the Moscow TX boards..!!!!
do u know where that is?????
i never heard of it.. until i looked it up.. its a 160 miles away!!!
1 dispatcher told me to move the truck......... to b on the dalals boards...... ok...... i move 1 mile.... im on the dallas boards
another dispatcher told me i can move bk to where i was.. cause garland tx IS on the dallas boards..... ok...... soo i moved bk there to where the sams is ...... it put me bk on moscow ...... this whole thing doesnt make sense. and is extremly frustrating.
now it did say i was 4 miles from garland.. and had a garland zip code posted.......... BUT .... gave me Moscow as a board......... and the dispatcher told me also .... i will NOT get any dallas load offers cause im on a moscow board.
BUT yet........ during the nite....... i had a load off that was on my QC this morning..... that they never called me on..... and ended up giving it to another truck....... now that ticked me off... it was 424 miles too...... soo i lost a load cause of i dont know why
i did tell them and always tell them i am out of the truck and reach me on the cell...... when i get out of it.
anyways......... i needed to vent here....... and looking for answers to all this frustration over the new boards
Barb

[bludragon13]

barb, you need to check the board map on the panther web site, garland is on the dallas board. did you call in and ask why you hadn't been called on that load offer? ask your team leader , and question why qc shows that position as being on the moscow board, it doesn't even meet up with the dallas board.it is tough for new drivers to understand whats going on, however you did get an offer where you were,so you are getting experience,where did the load pu that will help you decide in the future. hang in there it will take a few months to get the feel for where the loads come from you go to dallas a lot so learn how that area works. same thing happened to us no call while on pager but we got back to the truck and accepted , i called and they told me it was a mistake . i rarely ask dispatch about boards as they seem to know less then i do about them, and they always give the wrong answer as to what to do.your past posts have shown your frustration with the boards and panther,hope you are using these to build your experience and don't forget what youve learned with each move. goodb luck if there is such a thing!

[bludragon13]

turtle,
"Common sense is, by definition, a sense commonly known to many or all. Without experience, you have no common sense. When the QC offers you an empty move to a location you're never heard of, and to a board you're not familiar with, common sense is a non factor, especially if you're in the middle of nowhere without Internet access to view the maps to know where the boundaries are and which locations are within that board, nor does it tell you where on that board freight comes from."
no turtle ,common sense is looking at the dallas board , or any other board and realizing that the largest city is most likely where you should go, informed decision is made by using the tools you have and your experience . stirring the pot with out really offering any solutions is just stirring the pot! why try to rile people up with out offering any suggestions? so far you not given much in the way of assistance to the newbies ,tell them how you do it rather then complaining about boards and panthers lack of hand holding. maybe others success wouldn't be in your best interest?

[bludragon13]

"Some may be solo and can't take the load, some may be looking for a load to the midwest and the paint goes to South Carolina, some may not want to take HAZMAT, some may be out of hours, or out of service for any number of reasons. Some are too picky about what they take, some are just plain stoopid, some want Panther to pay extra for the risks of HAZMAT (like other carriers do. I do wonder of Panther isn't charging customers for HAZMAT and then not passing it along, as most customers are accustomed to HAZMAT surcharges, but that's probably for another posting )."
I've seen solos warned on the forums that they will sit until thur/fri for loads out of tx,looking for loads to certain destinations as an expediter?,out of hours -not teams-,dont do haz mat, don't do canada, want panther to pay more-sorry it sounds like they need to examine why they are in business-with all the limiting factors(excuses) why are they complaining about load boards-they really want to be tourists-they aren't interested in making a buck while the sun shines and will be complaining about no work in Jan.

[morningstar55ny]

mawnin drivers........
i been with panther .... since Nov of 2005
i been to dallas a lot ......... and sitting where i always sit when i am there......
for some reason was saying i was 4 miles from garland....... and on moscow board.
i did ?? the dispatchers about it all ........... and like i posted above they kept telling me to move the truck.......
ok i moved it 1 mile.......... i iwas on dallas board.
and as i also said before........ i was on garland and dallas city lines... and it was putting me on moscow boards.. and was told on the phone...... if i stayed parked there i WILL NOT get any dallas load offers. soo i moved 1 miles across the city line and then it showed i was on dallas boards.
ok u all do the try this......... next time you get a load.....to dallas or houston and lets say u go to dallas.... from houston..... etc.
go to the sam's warehouse parking lot....... off i635 .. on north west highway... heading west..... there is also a frys electronics there and a golden corral .. heh.. ya'll should like that... lol
and a wendys and as sonic.... ok
thats where i always park at when i go to dallas.
and see where it puts u on the boards.

i am a solo ....... and getting loads out of texas..... well i know sometimes its hard sometimes its not.......
yes ...... i will do haz
yes ....... i will and do go to canada...
yes.... i watch to see how fast the boards are moving while im in texas..and depending where i am on the boards..... and then i decide to start hunting me for a back haul...
i do know a couple solo's ..... whom will not do any of this and then i hear them complain about sitting ........ OOYyyyyyyyy .. so i just shake my head at them ......and say .....
see ya .... lol and these are solos thats been with panther a spell.
i am also helpful.... with newbies.... when i run across them .....

[mjolnir131]

my question is for empty moves now is it still withing 50 miles or just so you hit that board or what agian i have had dispatch tell me 3 diffent things

[Turtle]

Originally Posted by bludragon13

turtle,
"Common sense is, by definition, a sense commonly known to many or all. Without experience, you have no common sense. When the QC offers you an empty move to a location you're never heard of, and to a board you're not familiar with, common sense is a non factor, especially if you're in the middle of nowhere without Internet access to view the maps to know where the boundaries are and which locations are within that board, nor does it tell you where on that board freight comes from."
no turtle ,common sense is looking at the dallas board , or any other board and realizing that the largest city is most likely where you should go, informed decision is made by using the tools you have and your experience .

I stand by what I said. If you don't have the experience, you cannot have the common sense. Everything you just used up there is experience-based.

stirring the pot with out really offering any solutions is just stirring the pot! why try to rile people up with out offering any suggestions?

If you re-read what I have written on this subject, in this and other threads, you will see many suggestions of how these boards should be designed. Many of them, if not all, have also been forwarded directly to those at Panther who are in charge of this mess. Complaining without offering any suggestions is a meaningless exercise, and is something I rarely do.

so far you not given much in the way of assistance to the newbies ,tell them how you do it rather then complaining about boards and panthers lack of hand holding.

Two things here, first, the last thing I'll ever complain about is a lack of hand-holding by Panther. They will hold your hand and babysit the pee out of you, and it drives me crazy. You're 300 miles out with nothing between you and the cons except 70 MPH Interstate, and they're freakin' out 'cause you're showing 2 minutes late.

Even though it is high up on the "Action Items" list of things to get done, after many, many months there is still no way for dispatch to differentiate between good drivers and bad drivers. Therefore, they go with the lowest common denominator and treat all drivers like morons.

Second thing is, many times in these forums I have gone to great mind-numbing detail of what to do and what not to do out here, on how to work smart, and how to deal with certain situations. A few think I'm telling them how to run their business and don't like it, but others have used some of the advice to their advantage and have thanked me for it. I have no problem in offering advice on things that have worked for me. In fact, I received a PM the other day from someone who has posted the same questions in this very thread, but at the time I had just received a load and had to scoot, and I knew I would not have Internet access for a few days, and it was gonna require a lengthy response (and I'm a slow typist), so I responded with my cell phone number (something I do not give out very easily) so I could explain to them in detail their situation, and how to best handle a couple of problems. So far, the phone hasn't rung. <shrug>

maybe others success wouldn't be in your best interest?

That reminds me of when I first started expediting with Panther and was talking with another driver about places to layover in Toronto, a town which I was completely unfamiliar with at the time. (At Con-Way NOW we delivered in Canada, then came right back out, usually). He had mentioned that he knew of a couple of really good spots, near the freight, and where no one would bother him if he wanted to sleep there, and I asked him where they were. His response:

"I'm not telling you my secrets."

What a hoot. As if me sitting in one of his precious little super sekrit spots in Toronto was going to somehow have an effect on him getting loaded out of Memphis or something. What a goober. For that matter, even if we're sitting right there next to each other in Toronto, so what? It's not like one of will get a load and the other will sit there and rot for a week.

Someone else's success out here is not likely to have any kind of adverse effect on me. If anything, their success is likely to foster more loads for the carrier(s) and thus more load opportunities for me. Their failure, especially if they are with the same carrier as me, could very likely result in fewer loads. I'm all for everyone being a success.

[pelicn]

Originally Posted by Turtle

I stand by what I said.

You said it very well!

[morningstar55ny]

Originally Posted by Turtle

Even though it is high up on the "Action Items" list of things to get done, after many, many months there is still no way for dispatch to differentiate between good drivers and bad drivers. Therefore, they go with the lowest common denominator and treat all drivers like morons.

.

... morons ??? us ??? :'( ** bursting into tears here**

btw .. did i ever tell u .. u have cute turtles..... lol
and thats is a good post....... ty

[tblount]

Let me weigh in since I finally got access to post here. I've only been with Panther 3 months so perhaps I'm misguided when I look at it this way... It seems to me the whole concept of "boards" and positions is a system that applies to traditional trucking where freight goes through hubs and is swapped much like all FedEx packages go through Memphis. Since we always go from shipper to delivery we need a system that works like a rock dropped in water with the rings going outward from the position the load appears. The closest truck (within range of pickup time) that has been waiting the longest should get the first offer for the load. It just doesn't make sense to be guessing and moving empty and burning expensive fuel ....and if we continue to do it someone will come along with a more efficient system and eat our lunch.

I keep very accurate records and don't idle or move until I get a load and I'm still buying fuel for 1/3 rd of my miles. This means at the end of the month I'm buying $1,000 worth of fuel and making less than $1 per mile.

The literature they sent when I was considering working for Panther said 100% fuel surcharge and $1.20 per mile.

I can't understand why that changed to 95 cents per mile and 72% of the fuel. At this rate I'll be short $12,000 at the end of the year.

[LDB]

Originally Posted by tblount

The literature they sent when I was considering working for Panther said 100% fuel surcharge and $1.20 per mile.

Those numbers are based on loaded miles. Empty miles are not included in that.

[moose]

Good stuff !
Here is one :
so , now that we know where the heck the boards are,
looks like some of them are huge .
inside the board , Dose it make sense to go to where the freight is ?
or , once a truck is on the board , its on the board .
in other words , will a dispatcher skip a truck just because it is 60 mil. away ?
another one :
what are the common steps to take when an MT move offer come beeping off the QC ?

Moose.

[moose]

the Panther web page.
under Driver info.
Board position .
Current board :
last coulomb:
FO Type
what is FO Type ?
as it is showing my truck as: M

a wondering Moose.

[tblount]

Originally Posted by LDB

Those numbers are based on loaded miles. Empty miles are not included in that.

It's deceptive since you have to drive to the location to get the load. You are no longer making $1.20 per mile. You are making less than $ 1 per mile.

Also, they sent a message over qualcomm saying they calculate fuel mileage for the fixed rate at 8 mpg. The current average is about 54.60 doesn't the math come out to 58 cents? How do they arrive at the 39 or 40 cpm they offer for flat rate

They must know they are asking owners to pay for at least 25% of the fuel on every load.


And another thing.... do you think they ever total your fuel recipts and divide by the number of miles on pro to know exactly what owners are paying for fuel per loaded mile? I bet they know so they have the facts when charging customers. It makes more sense than just guessing. It would be illogical to think that a multi-million dollar company would base their rates on guesses and estimates without checking the hard facts.