[chada75]

I been reading the ads for Vans and Straight Trucks and some of them are leased to Phanter, Express-1, etc. I asked a lady at Phanter about "Buying" into Expediting with a used Van that's already with the company and what would I need to do. She could n't answer the question. Has anybo dy here ever done this? It seems like a good idea. Thanks for any help! Chada75

[chada75]

Any body know?

[layoutshooter]

What do you mean by "buying" into a van? Layoutshooter

[MCBuggyCo]

I believe he is asking if there is any advantage to buying a van that has already been in service with one of the expediting companies. This is, as he stated, often mentioned in the classifieds as an implied benefit.
I would think you should just get the best deal you can on a van that meets the specs for the company you have in mind. Finally, the nicest van in the world won't get you into the company if YOU don't meet the specs required for drivers.

[mlb37031]

Originally Posted by chada75

I been reading the ads for Vans and Straight Trucks and some of them are leased to Phanter, Express-1, etc. I asked a lady at Phanter about "Buying" into Expediting with a used Van that's already with the company and what would I need to do. She could n't answer the question. Has anybo dy here ever done this? It seems like a good idea. Thanks for any help! Chada75

Chada75
If you are looking to get into Expediting, I have a van already set-up for expediting for sale. I have a class A and I am getting back into trucking. E-mail me at mlb37031@yahoo.com

[greg334]

Chada75
I understand part of the question. To answer it, yes there is a big advantage to buying a van that is in the fleet already. I won't go into the 'you got to select the company to conform to your goals' bit, others will/may but here is what I got to say;

The advantage is about reducing the up front cost. That is there is a signage cost, a qualcomm cost and a records cost to a point.

With a van the first two can cost somewhere around $1000 but hey if they are already there, you are a grand ahead of the game. With a truck there are the records, which is part DOT and part company, like when they want to see the truck to make sure that it is a truck, this saves you another step in the process and sometimes a few hundred.

Hope that answers your question.

[chada75]

Thanks for the info. Form what I read it seems like the best option since the only thing needed is for the driver to meet the company's specs. My biggest concern on buying a Van or Truck is that I get it prepared like how the company wants it and then someone finds something wrong with it at the Inspection. Whether as with a leased van, That part of it is out of the equation.

[MCBuggyCo]

I thought most people leased the QC. If so then it would not be included with the purchase of a vehicle as it would have been returned when they left the carrier. If it was included you would expect the seller to factor it into the price. As for the signage, if it matches the company you already have chosen that's great but I would not reverse the process and chose a company just because their name is already on some guy's truck.
You mention a lease...most people with experience on the subject do not recommend leasing from the company that supplies your freight. I hate to be negative but the easiest (and cheapest) way is not always the best in this business.

[mlb37031]

Originally Posted by chada75

Thanks for the info. Form what I read it seems like the best option since the only thing needed is for the driver to meet the company's specs. My biggest concern on buying a Van or Truck is that I get it prepared like how the company wants it and then someone finds something wrong with it at the Inspection. Whether as with a leased van, That part of it is out of the equation.

chada75
I have a White 2007 Ford E-350 Extended Van, 6.0 Liter Diesel with 42,000 miles on it. I looked at everyone's criteria before I set it up and it meets everyone's standards. It has a 1/2 inch Pressure treated ply-wood floor. Fire extingisher, road side emegency triangles, 20' chain, extra oil and fuel filters, and an inflatable air mattress. I also have a 1500 watt inverter and a microwave oven. I have hauled 3900 lbs in it with no problems, that's why I went with a Diesel. I have a class A and I was made an offer to drive again that I could not pass up. I do not need the van. I live in Castalian Springs Tenn. I need $500 and take over the payments. You can e-mail me at mlb37031@yahoo.com. I can send you as many pictures as you like.

[greg334]

Originally Posted by mlb37031

chada75
I have hauled 3900 lbs in it with no problems,

I am wondering what the GVW and unloaded weight is or can someone tell me that you can actually put 3900lbs in a van and remain legal with a 6.0 oil burner?

[mlb37031]

Originally Posted by greg334

I am wondering what the GVW and unloaded weight is or can someone tell me that you can actually put 3900lbs in a van and remain legal with a 6.0 oil burner?

Greg
According to my 6.0 liter Owners manual, the GVW is 9400 lbs, 3960 Payload. Cut-a-ways, 11,500 lbs GVWR, 6605 Payload (properly equipted). Maximum loaded trailer weight with a 3.55 ratio rear end is 9500 lbs, a 4.10 ratio is 10000 lbs. I have been a trucker since 1993, and in my humble opinion, and its only my opinion, I prefer a diesel.

[OntarioVanMan]

Wasn't it the powerstroke 6L they were having problems with? pulled it off the market and introduced the 6.3?

[late4dinner]

Originally Posted by greg334

I am wondering what the GVW and unloaded weight is or can someone tell me that you can actually put 3900lbs in a van and remain legal with a 6.0 oil burner?

Can't happen. There is no legal or safe way you can put that much weight on a cargo van.
If I was trying to sell a van, I don't think I would want the person I was trying to sell it to know I overloaded it that way.

[mlb37031]

Originally Posted by OntarioVanMan

Wasn't it the powerstroke 6L they were having problems with? pulled it off the market and introduced the 6.3?

They had their problems, like anything new and for all manufactors, the first couple of years but the problems were corrected. The only problem I had was my EGR valve and it was replaced under warrantiy. You can go here to read more: Thinking of buying an '06 6.0 can anyone tell me likes and dislikes - Ford Truck Enthusiasts Forums.

[OntarioVanMan]

Now heres one of them situations where the door sticker says the payload is 3960 lbs and gvw is 9400 lbs leaving an empty weight of.....5440lbs....no way that van is that light empty.

What does a DOT officer do in this case...????